Thompson: 'We could have been better'

Thompson: 'We could have been better'

There are 50 comments on the WisInfo story from Dec 31, 2008, titled Thompson: 'We could have been better'. In it, WisInfo reports that:

Ted Thompson was careful not to say the 6-10 Green Bay Packers of 2008 were nearly as good as their 13-3 team from 2007.

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jeremy

Mooreton, ND

#21 Apr 8, 2009
normallylikeyellow wrote:
Maybe we wouldn't have gone 6-10? Look, I said this in re: Culter--what else is he gonna say? "I'm satisfied?" My concerns with Ted aren't personal. I believe he means and intends well. It's a tough business and results matter. Patience is getting short--just read up and down these posts.
Yes, I don't have all the patience in the world either, but I'm not about to write off management for a bad last season, Detroit was bad all the way through with Millen, if we don't improve this year, then maybe some changes need to be made,first with coach,not GM.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#22 Apr 8, 2009
GBPfan wrote:
The Packers could have been better all right. They could have had a good GM. Instead they hired Ted Thompson.
Dude give it a rest.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#23 Apr 9, 2009
jeremy wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I don't have all the patience in the world either, but I'm not about to write off management for a bad last season, Detroit was bad all the way through with Millen, if we don't improve this year, then maybe some changes need to be made,first with coach,not GM.
You mean the same thing Detroit did. Hire and fire multiple coaches until a decade goes by because ownership is to stupid to figure out where the real problem lies. BTW this is not just Detroit. It seems to be the usual course followed by teams with a loser at GM. Do the Packers have to play that foolish game all the way to the end?
jeremy

Mooreton, ND

#24 Apr 9, 2009
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean the same thing Detroit did. Hire and fire multiple coaches until a decade goes by because ownership is to stupid to figure out where the real problem lies. BTW this is not just Detroit. It seems to be the usual course followed by teams with a loser at GM. Do the Packers have to play that foolish game all the way to the end?
Wow GPbfan, I actually agree with you, aren't you happy now?That does make a little sense, but I think I'll wait and see how this year goes,I have always said on this site since I started that this year will say it all, and if they fail,well me and you can rant and rave next year. But until then, I'm cheering them on just like any year and hope they can succeed.
normallylikeyell ow

United States

#25 Apr 9, 2009
What do you got against me, then? 1 winning season out 4. Go ahead--make excuses... we had a perennial playoff team before he took over.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#26 Apr 9, 2009
I would love it if TT were to miraculously suprize me. I also think it would be great if the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny were real.

“Go Pack Go”

Since: Jun 07

Stevens Point, Wisconsin

#27 Apr 9, 2009
GBPfan wrote:
I would love it if TT were to miraculously suprize me. I also think it would be great if the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny were real.
You are not trying to say that they are not real, are you?
jeremy

Mooreton, ND

#28 Apr 10, 2009
normallylikeyellow wrote:
What do you got against me, then? 1 winning season out 4. Go ahead--make excuses... we had a perennial playoff team before he took over.
We also had Brett Favre, The cowboys had Aikman, The 49ers had Montana and Young, The Broncos had Elway, The Patriots have Brady, but he got hurt and they didn't make the playoffs, The Dolphins had Marino, The Colts have Peyton, its hard to continue that dominance when you lose your legend at QB, that is the only excuse I have. AR played well last year, and like you said it takes a couple years before a QB can start winning in this league a.k.a. Cutler? So I'm saying this year will say a lot about TT and MM, that's all.
jeremy

Mooreton, ND

#29 Apr 10, 2009
Did anyone expect us to do well last year? My expectations were low because of my last statement and the circus that followed the packers last offseason. I was pleasantly surprised with AR, and I'm excited to see what this kid can do from here on out. History proves that franchises take a major nose dive after a great QB leaves, AR has big shoes to fill, most QB fail miserably in those circumstances, AR did very well, besides the record. So that is why I think this team is ok, we just need to tweak a few things and we'll be just fine. But if we fail like that again, then I am reasonable and definite changes need to be made.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#30 Apr 10, 2009
Proball5 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are not trying to say that they are not real, are you?
I really don't want to crush anyone's beliefs here. So, what I meant to say is "I think it's great that they are real." This is PC, no?

“It's an oversized hat.. funny”

Since: Mar 07

Marquette MI

#31 Apr 10, 2009
First off TT baffles me from time to time... Ok a lot. Very reluctant to make impact moves and he seems very removed from the players. More so than a GM should be. Now there seems to be a pattern of him alienating and angering players. He seems intimidated by bringing in big name players as they may make more of an impact on the team than the almighty TT himself. Let's face it the patriots take on a lot of experienced big name players on the late side of their careers and plug them into their system and it works for them. Its hard to argue consistent success. The red wings have a set of core guys and bring in new talent every year through free agency it in hockey and it may be the hardest sport to manage a salary cap IMO. But let's get back to football. While I understand many are searching for a ring in new england and they get a discount price on these free agents it pisses me off that TT is the anti patriots model. He hopes and prays that the core players, which I think is a pretty good group of players to have, in gb work out and pretty much ignores free agency. But come on bring in some complementary proven talent once in a while. It shouldn't be so hard to answer the question how has TT imroved the team over last year or the year before that now that I think of it. There's the draft AND free agency that's a gm's tools. Why a man would go to work with only half of his tools baffles me. Consistent success is what a GM is graded on and there's no way you can argue that tt is creating an environment that breeds consistent success. Now we have a new defensive system which requires different skill sets for players and I fear we may fall into a revolving door for a head coach if this season is not successful. Let's hope it is a great season as packer fans but if its not tt needs some serious evaluations on him not MM as he is more or less just TT's yes man.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#32 Apr 10, 2009
jeremy wrote:
Did anyone expect us to do well last year? My expectations were low because of my last statement and the circus that followed the packers last offseason. I was pleasantly surprised with AR, and I'm excited to see what this kid can do from here on out. History proves that franchises take a major nose dive after a great QB leaves, AR has big shoes to fill, most QB fail miserably in those circumstances, AR did very well, besides the record. So that is why I think this team is ok, we just need to tweak a few things and we'll be just fine. But if we fail like that again, then I am reasonable and definite changes need to be made.
I whole heatedly agree!That ( IMO) is why or part of the reason why they got Capers,besides being a very good defensive coach at the 3-4,he would be an instant candidate for the HC job if MM gets kicked to the curb.

“It's an oversized hat.. funny”

Since: Mar 07

Marquette MI

#33 Apr 10, 2009
First off TT baffles me from time to time... Ok a lot. Very reluctant to make impact moves and he seems very removed from the players. More so than a GM should be. Now there seems to be a pattern of him alienating and angering players. He seems intimidated by bringing in big name players as they may make more of an impact on the team than the almighty TT himself. Let's face it the patriots take on a lot of experienced big name players on the late side of their careers and plug them into their system and it works for them. Its hard to argue consistent success. The red wings have a set of core guys and bring in new talent every year through free agency it in hockey and it may be the hardest sport to manage a salary cap IMO. But let's get back to football. While I understand many are searching for a ring in new england and they get a discount price on these free agents it pisses me off that TT is the anti patriots model. He hopes and prays that the core players, which I think is a pretty good group of players to have, in gb work out and pretty much ignores free agency. But come on bring in some complementary proven talent once in a while. It shouldn't be so hard to answer the question how has TT imroved the team over last year or the year before that now that I think of it. There's the draft AND free agency that's a gm's tools. Why a man would go to work with only half of his tools baffles me. Consistent success is what a GM is graded on and there's no way you can argue that tt is creating an environment that breeds consistent success. Now we have a new defensive system which requires different skill sets for players and I fear we may fall into a revolving door for a head coach if this season is not successful. Let's hope it is a great season as packer fans but if its not tt needs some serious evaluations on him not MM as he is more or less just TT's yes man.

“It's an oversized hat.. funny”

Since: Mar 07

Marquette MI

#34 Apr 10, 2009
Where did my comments go? Posted once showed up then disappeard. Did it again same thing. I don't want to repost in case it shows up later.
normallylikeyell ow

United States

#35 Apr 10, 2009
jeremy wrote:
Did anyone expect us to do well last year? My expectations were low because of my last statement and the circus that followed the packers last offseason. I was pleasantly surprised with AR, and I'm excited to see what this kid can do from here on out. History proves that franchises take a major nose dive after a great QB leaves, AR has big shoes to fill, most QB fail miserably in those circumstances, AR did very well, besides the record. So that is why I think this team is ok, we just need to tweak a few things and we'll be just fine. But if we fail like that again, then I am reasonable and definite changes need to be made.
Hell yes, I did! We went to the NFC championship the year before. Farve was expendable. Hey the off-season fiasco didn't stop us from starting off with 2 wins. Then we lost 3 straight, rebounded with 2, looking pretty solid into the bye and played TN to the wire. But that game revealed who we really were: a team with no depth, who couldn't stop the run or close games. And I don't see how a change in defensive scheme is gonna solve that.
jeremy

Mooreton, ND

#36 Apr 10, 2009
normallylikeyellow wrote:
<quoted text> Hell yes, I did! We went to the NFC championship the year before. Farve was expendable. Hey the off-season fiasco didn't stop us from starting off with 2 wins. Then we lost 3 straight, rebounded with 2, looking pretty solid into the bye and played TN to the wire. But that game revealed who we really were: a team with no depth, who couldn't stop the run or close games. And I don't see how a change in defensive scheme is gonna solve that.
Like I said before, teams coming off of a championship game tend to not do very good the next year, they kind of have a hangover and teams are a little more amped to beat you because your a team to beat. I thought our defense would be better not our offense with a new QB who hasn't proved anything, but I was totally wrong about that scenario. I just didn't know what AR was capable of, that is why I wasn't really expecting too much from this team last year. Now I know what AR can do and I expect this team to rebound with a vengeance. AR seamed like a very big competitor and wants to win really bad.
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#37 Apr 10, 2009
AR has a very accurate arm, throws with velocity, and he had a chance to watch the game from a master at work. The only question about AR is durability. With the receiver corps the Pack have assembled, Rogers will put up some very big numbers. I think the management of the game to produce wins will grow for him just as it did for Brett. I really believe this team will bounce back in 2009 and a solid draft will definitely help us.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#38 Apr 10, 2009
I fully expected the Packers to have a very good season last year. But only if:

1. Aaron Rodgers filled in well for Favre, and
2. I was wrong about the overall talent of the players brought in by Ted Thompson(which I believed to be less than the 2007 record indicated)

AR exceeded my expectations. But the development and depth that I had hoped to see from Ted's four draft classes just wasn't there.

TT (in consultation with the coaching staff)should have known of the lack of sufficient talent and depth and made appropriate moves in free agency. He has failed in the draft and in free agency.

I blame TT because it appears that MM can win when provided with adequate tools. Not that MM should be completely absolved. Several non-coaching factors aided 2007's success.
normallylikeyell ow

United States

#39 Apr 11, 2009
The Giants weren't 6-10, they were 12-4. The Patriots were 11-5, even San Diego got to 8-8 after a horrible start. All those teams had key injuries. I'm not buying that excuse.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#40 Apr 11, 2009
Injuries are inevitable. It is a GM's job to build a team with enough depth to avoid being devastated by injuries. No GM should ever use injuries as an excuse. And if a team loses 7 more games than the previous year, due to injuries, it merely proves that the GM has done a horrible job.

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