Jermichael Finley: What might the Gre...

Jermichael Finley: What might the Green Bay Packers do?

There are 27 comments on the LombardiAve story from Jan 31, 2014, titled Jermichael Finley: What might the Green Bay Packers do?. In it, LombardiAve reports that:

Jermichael Finley has all the talent to be a star in the league, but has been underwhelming overall as a Packer.

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GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#1 Feb 1, 2014
Peyton Manning is paid less than $250,000 per TD by the Broncos. The Packers paid Finley $5,000,000 per TD. All the Packers need to do is figure out if the neck injury helps to make Finley 20+ times more valuable than Manning.

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#2 Feb 1, 2014
GBPfan wrote:
Peyton Manning is paid less than $250,000 per TD by the Broncos. The Packers paid Finley $5,000,000 per TD. All the Packers need to do is figure out if the neck injury helps to make Finley 20+ times more valuable than Manning.
Packers don't need him at all.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#3 Feb 3, 2014
Considering Finley's lack of production, it's hard to make a case to sign him at the league minimum. Add the injury, and it's clear he should look elsewhere.
Packer Backer WichitaKs

Wichita, KS

#4 Feb 5, 2014
GBPfan wrote:
Considering Finley's lack of production, it's hard to make a case to sign him at the league minimum. Add the injury, and it's clear he should look elsewhere.
I agree. Finley's lack of production, when healthy, was a problem. I don't think he was the greatest team player either. He got off to a great start last season, just like so many do in their contract year. Would not be surprised if the Packers draft a TE in the 1st round even though they have greater needs on defense. TT and MM will most likely draft the best player available. I just hope it fills a need.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#5 Feb 5, 2014
Packer Backer WichitaKs wrote:
<quoted text>I agree. Finley's lack of production, when healthy, was a problem. I don't think he was the greatest team player either. He got off to a great start last season, just like so many do in their contract year. Would not be surprised if the Packers draft a TE in the 1st round even though they have greater needs on defense. TT and MM will most likely draft the best player available. I just hope it fills a need.
Th truth is that Finley never iproved the Packer production. The Packers were every bit as productive, with him out of games as in. Thus, we really don't "need" a TE. However, if we sign one that can and does improve the Packer productivity that would certainly be a big plus.
normallylikeyell ow

Altoona, PA

#6 Feb 9, 2014
I'd resign Quarless and draft either Jace Amaro early or Crock Gillmore, who looked very good in the Senior Bowl (proj. 4th, I'd guess late 3rd round). There are other good juniors coming out too. Pretty sure Eric Ebron won't last until our pick.
eric

Monroe, WI

#7 Feb 9, 2014
If we were to resign Quarless,I would like to see them draft a TE later on and concentrate on another Def. Linemen ,LB,secondary player.I would think they can sign a FA TE for decent money and get some production.Thing is Quarless was the TE when GB won the SB,Finley was out injured.Just find a TE who can actually block
normallylikeyell ow

Altoona, PA

#8 Feb 10, 2014
Not a lot of FA TEs that excite, apart from the obvious. The "other" Graham (Garrett) is an intriguing player, though I can't imagine O'Brien letting him walk, as much as he loves TEs. A guy like Pettigrew is going to cost Finley money and is often hurt.
I think they've got plans for Bostick, myself. Re-sign Quarless and get a development guy--not a bad plan eric. Hard to pass Gillmore, particularly is he does make to us in Rd 4. Late specials? If you want a blocker, Xavier Grimble of USC is decent, but has been injured some. There are extremely talented troubled children A. C. Leonard of Tenn St.(very Finley-like speed and build) and Colt Lyerla of Oregon (who quit the team and has been caught with a "powdery white substance" --not baking soda), both juniors. There's a bunch of mystery UFA types, too, like Eric Waters of Missouri, who just never got the ball, Asa Watson of NC State (smaller) and Blake Jackson of OK St.
Should get a look at some of these guys at the Combine.
eric

Monroe, WI

#9 Feb 10, 2014
Sadly, i miss the 2 TE offense we had back with Holmgren..Of course we are having a hell of a time keeping 1 good TE nevermind 2
I was very high on Bostick after seeing his rookie camp but so far,he hasnt shown a whole lot but i agree with you that they have a plan him. Other then Bostick, Ryan Taylor ( there for Special Teams) and Jake Stoneburner so the list isnt real impressive.Its to bad they couldnt convert a WR like Chris Harper ( former 2nd round pick by Seattle,,then cut,signed by SF,the cut and signed by Ted) hes a bigger kid 6 1 around 230 or so out of Kansas State but not quite there to play TE but he was a 2nd rounder so talent is there for sure ( at WR).
I am really looking forward to seeing how DuJuan Harris and Casey Hayward look. I just hope Hayward Hammy isnt going to be a yearly type thing after injuring it so bad he missed a season.
With Starks a FA ( very very good back when healthy but had trouble his first few years) a Healthy DuJuan Harris will make losing Starks a whole lot easier. Too bad we couldnt get away with Eddie Lacy, DuJuan Harris,James Starks and Jonathan Franklin and with money being tight letting Kuhn ( the fan favorite ) go and hope the FB TT signed earlier can do the job..Do you go with the new guy ( younger,costs less and a bit bigger) or Kuhn ( fan favorite,a vet at 30,not great but you know what you get with him for the most part)
Talking about Sam coming out, they mentioned hes projected as a 4th or 5th,IF draft comes and hes considered a 4th and maybe can play some OLB,i wonder if TT would reach with a late 3rd or trade the 3rd round pick for an upper 4th and maybe a 7th and grab Sam with an upper 4th.They mentioned he was captain of the Missouri team, Respected,an All American and all conference
normallylikeyell ow

Altoona, PA

#10 Feb 11, 2014
Mike Mayock said he thought Sam was a DE, not LB because his inability to change direction fluidly. Of course he said the same thing about Nick Perry! I'm thinking maybe he was right. Sam's a great pass rusher and has excellent speed upfield and surprising power for his size. Wrong defense I think. He'd do well in a Tampa scheme.
Here's a surprise, but I think we'll select another back late in this draft. There are good players falling way down the board: Tyler Gaffney is projected in the 5th round. Are you kidding me? Storm Johnson of UCF may not even get drafted! Both are real good--and Johnson has 4.5 speed. And the UFA list is meaty too. If Brendan Bigelow of Cal is healthy, he's got Chris Johnson speed. Henry Josie is excellent in trafffic, Roy Finch looked great in the Sr. Bowl (though he's small), and too many others to mention. There's probably 25 or more quality guys because a bunch of juniors came out and pushed some good seniors right out of the draft.
Who? I think a guy like David Fluellen of Toledo has a lot of Kuhn-like qualities, plus a bit of waggle. Rushed for 1500 yards, catches the ball very well and doesn't seem to mind contact. Obviously he'll have to learn the pass protections. It could get very interesting.
Draft D up top, no argument there, but there are some good skill guys at RB and WR deep in this draft.
eric

Monroe, WI

#11 Feb 11, 2014
Sam is what 250 or so,so no not a DE in the 3-4. WIth his size,speed,is there a reminder of a pass rush specialist like KGB
Yawin Smallwood..LB UCONN , I wonder if he can become a Packer.Left UCONN after his Junior season.Granted,we dont get to see to many Huskies games here in Wisconsin,( i dont know about PA where you live) but i saw UCONN vs Michigan not to long ago and i dont remember a whole lot about him but reading articles about prospects and he was mentioned as maybe a Packer in the upper rounds.We do need a LB who can run.and as i said,i havent seem much and UCONN doesnt exactly play a real tough schedule but small schools have produced
eric

Monroe, WI

#12 Feb 12, 2014
I was just reading a headline in an article that Jim Leonard ( Safety NYJ) would love to be a Packer..SO, a safety thats better then anything we have,,wants to play in GB ( played collage ball at Uni. of Wisconsin) and prob. wont cost a whole heck of a lot and is prob. willing to take less to play in Green Bay nad like i said before Certainly an upgrade..Make it happen Ted as well as drafting Boreland ( LB Un.of Wisconsin) as well and thats 2 holes filled with more then competent players who will produce
normallylikeyell ow

Du Bois, PA

#13 Feb 12, 2014
Solid ideas. Smallwood is a lot like Alec Ogletree--all right by me. I think they'd have to take him in the first round or trade up in 2 if they want him. You know I like Borland, but again I think we'd have to grab him in 2 'cause he doubt we will last until our rd 3 pick (I'm guessing the Jennings compensation pick will also be round 3, so if Borland's still there it's a no-brainer, you got another pick in that round). Leonhard is 31 and has been on 3 teams in the last three years--not sure what this means. He didn't play well in Denver but bounced back last year in Buffalo. You're right, he made less than $1 million last year, so? I think he just wants to win--had two tastes of the conference championship and then the revolving door. Is he a locker room problem? You wonder.
eric

Monroe, WI

#14 Feb 12, 2014
I suppose they could trade their own 2nd and 3rd ( both late) for an early 2nd for Smallwood and like you said, the Jennings com. pick will be a 3rd rounder so they still have a 1st ( 21st) 2nd ( upper 3-5 pick) and their comp. 3rd.If it were between Leonard or Borland..Id go Borland ( again, we would have to trade up) but we would only have to trade our 3rd and 4th to the upper 3rd or maybe even a very late 2nd ( a bit of a reach) but picked in the early 3rd for a player rated in the late 3rd isnt to bad if they feel strongly and of course we would still need a safety ( instead of Leonard) and thats where we either sign Ward from Cleveland or draft the kid from Louisville Calvin Pryor.Ive always heard Leonhard was a solid team mate at UW,3 teams in 3 years is a legit concern but is he receiving a line of 1 year deals? IF so, Why? Im going on the fact,he is better then any FS we have right now,,he is certainly an improvment and a good enough improvement to make a difference AND will come cheap and it will buy some time to develop Micah Hyde and if Hyde is ahead of it,Leonhard can always be traded or released or hes cheap enough to be a depth play,,1 thing is for sure,we need to improve at both safety positions.
So who are you leaning toward at RT? Bulaga,Sherrod or Barclay?
Sherrod..basically is a rookie,,,,Missed much of his rookie camp 2011 because of the lockout,suffered that horrendous leg break late in 11 killing his 12 season as well and was healthy enough to play some in 13 but with the playoffs on the line,he sat back,played in the blow out at Det.,SO, he is really going to his 1st camp healthy and ready to go!
Barclay..Did a solid job the last few games in 12 after BB got injured,the running game improved but pass protection suffered a little bit and he did a decent job last year.
BULAGA...Missed the final 7 games in 12 ( hip injury) then missed all 13 with the ACL injury.After he left in 12,GB averaged nearly 1/2 per carry more ( under Barclay) but pass protection suffereed a little bit after BB left Bulaga was supposed to play LT last year but got injured and Bahktiari did a nice job..
OR
is there a chance that both Sherrod and Bulaga get starting jobs? Sherrod played LT,,wasnt great but was playing better as he went before he got hurt nad Bulaga ( while not a great run blocker,is solid at Pass blocking) and with Lacy back there, he can make up a bit for Bulaga shortsidedness in run blocking
normallylikeyell ow

Du Bois, PA

#15 Feb 13, 2014
Bulaga's the best player if he's healthy. I'm comfortable with any of them out there. Barclay's played well. Nobody's unseating Bahktiari. He's going to get even better--and meaner. T. J. Ward is going to get Byrd-like money ($7-8 million). That's pretty rich without upgrading the front seven. Tough choices ahead.
Laughing bear Fan

Denver, CO

#16 Feb 19, 2014
They'll cut JF
He'll cost too much with the huge piece of the cap missing due to AR's salary
eric

Monroe, WI

#17 Feb 19, 2014
They dont have to cut JF, hes a FA and coming off a neck injury and the Packers have nearly 30M in cap space,( not very many teams have more space then that) so, apparently AR contract isnt nearly as bad as you think it is
Laughing bear Fan

Denver, CO

#18 Feb 20, 2014
will they resign shields or raji
DB's are dependent on a strong front 7 or they get exposed
eric

Monroe, WI

#19 Feb 20, 2014
True but Raji has not been the same since the SB year in 10. He gets pushed around a bit,,NOW, its not the NT job to get sacks ( although Raji has spent considerable time at DE) but their job is to collapse the pocket a bit,take on blockers so the LB can make plays and Raji hasnt done much of any of it. Raji has turned down 8M and if someone is willing to pay up there a bit,then hes gone. Unless Ted is convinced there are no NT in the draft or FA that can replace him Raji wont be back unless he can be signed for 5-6M
Id like Shields back,he is still learning corner and may improve yet some more but again,what is his worth? Franchise tag him and he gets 11M and his agent can use that against the Packers in nego in the future ( in other words down the line,you were willing to pay him 11M so you must think hes worth it type thing) and i dont think hes in that elite catagory yet ( and he may never who knows),so its tricky..Ive read 7-9M range
GBPmies

Finland

#20 Feb 20, 2014
Laughing bear Fan wrote:
will they resign shields or raji
DB's are dependent on a strong front 7 or they get exposed
I agree completely.... as a general rule.

That being said I don’t see the value of paying Raji (over Shields) who seems uninterested in playing in 3-4 and not getting his recognition and attempts to go after the QB. His play has seemed to be less effective the past 2 years and Shields has improved every year and has “earned” a big contract for his strong play.

Another general thought is good CBs are hard to find and you can never have to many good CBs. I would pay Shields first in this particular case and find a fat man to replace a fat man if needed. Shields is on the field for almost every down as thier best cover CB... Raji not as much as you would think, only 58% last year.

I would pay Shields for what he has done, how much he continues to improve each year, and how much he can do in the future. What do you base paying Raji before Shields on?

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