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YES

Marshfield, WI

#1 Mar 15, 2014
Peppers now a Packer. Now let"s see their fans comments. When the Bears signed him they said it was a mistake he had lost it ,lazy took plays off,etc. But now I bet it is a great thing. Lets hear from those and they know who they are that thought he was not a good signing for the Bears. But it will be great to them now. Want it both ways again!
GBPmies

Finland

#2 Mar 15, 2014
YES wrote:
Peppers now a Packer. Now let"s see their fans comments. When the Bears signed him they said it was a mistake he had lost it ,lazy took plays off,etc. But now I bet it is a great thing. Lets hear from those and they know who they are that thought he was not a good signing for the Bears. But it will be great to them now. Want it both ways again!
I am happy, depending how they use him. I am happy they signed someone outside of GB!

He will rotate and give GB the options of having many different looks, could get really interesting. I however never said he was a ‘bad player’... I did say his cap hit was way too high for his production (but look who he had to play with last year... junk).

I guess I can have it "both ways” now!!!! Horray for me!!!! Whaaaa for you!!! LMFAO
I enjoy that this signing makes you cry. I enjoy everything Packers make you come here and cry. Are you still mad about that time those Packer fans peed in your mouth? Let go already. Try and enjoy the game, and quit crying all the time about the Packers.
eric

Monroe, WI

#3 Mar 15, 2014
3yrs that can max out to 30M
7.5M salary in 2014 and his salary goes up a bit in 2015 if he is productive
3.5M cap hit is very reasonable,
Bottom line is GB needed a veteran on the def. line and the fact they can get Peppers at a 3.5M cap is not bad. It does seem like a 1yr experiment type thing
So to answer the POS that started this..
Chicago gave Peppers who was worth 10-12M according to experts 15-17M and many agreed he was overpaid..
GB just got him for a 3.5M cap,,theres a bit of a difference there but again.AR is gay or your typical shit is all you have,so ill let you keep it,everyone else see what your all about.
GBPmies

Finland

#4 Mar 15, 2014
eric wrote:
3yrs that can max out to 30M
7.5M salary in 2014 and his salary goes up a bit in 2015 if he is productive
3.5M cap hit is very reasonable,
Bottom line is GB needed a veteran on the def. line and the fact they can get Peppers at a 3.5M cap is not bad. It does seem like a 1yr experiment type thing
So to answer the POS that started this..
Chicago gave Peppers who was worth 10-12M according to experts 15-17M and many agreed he was overpaid..
GB just got him for a 3.5M cap,,theres a bit of a difference there but again.AR is gay or your typical shit is all you have,so ill let you keep it,everyone else see what your all about.
Only 3.5 mil cap hit!
LOL! Sounds like great "risk"!
It will interesting to see the different ways they use him.... I like the signing but never thought it could really happen. I read there is good chance Peppers will count more against CHI cap then he will against the Packers.

We could discuss all day about the different postions and formations he will play in, it sounds fun! He also isn't need or expected to play every single down while in GB, he can rotate. He can play DE or OLB, next to or opposite of Matthews... I think he gives a very nice pass rush boost the Packers were missing.

btw
Anytime that little girl shows up here to cry it is a good thing. The poor soul hates the Packers more than she likes another team.... I heard Packer fans peed in her mouth and she is still mad about it. I enjoy when she cries and cry she should.
eric

Monroe, WI

#5 Mar 15, 2014
I think ( dont quote me exactly) the Bears saved damn near 9-10M in cap space but is still going to cost hte Bears 9..Peppers was near 17-18M in cap space before he was released!
He had 8 sacks but was non existent at times last year.
I do hope they rotate him. Yea,hes costing Chicago more money then GB.
would you rather Peppers or Allen? Its been said,Allen would retire if he doesnt get his or someone doesnt hit his number so maybe he is asking a ton and to get Peppers for 3.5M in cap space and the Packers needed a vet on that Def. line.
I do wonder how motivated he will be but 2 games vs CHicago,your damn right hes going to want to get in Cutlers face and drop him a few times
So,now, its off to finding a vet LB.Mike Mc is pretty confident that Micah Hyde is the safety we need,Peppers is TT answer to DE/Def. line,so now we need a LB ( ILB or OLB) and some want to add Center at the list..EDS left,,JC Tretter is in front of the list to replace him..IS it the same guy though? EDS was 6 4 ( maybe) listed at 305 or so ( i dont think hes over 300 and he got blown up quite a bit,,esp vs Cin on the play where Franklin coughed up the ball which Cin returned for a TD late in the game if you remember) and Tretter ( acc. to GB team site) is 6 4 307,so basically the same type of player,Yes Scott Wells was on 300-305 and he did well but Wells was Powerful,EDS needs to add core strength ,so heres to hoping Tretter bulks up a bit. I would love to see a SF 49er type Lineup big guys but at least Lacy is a good enough RB that he can make up a bit..
Also looking forward to seeing who wins the RT job
Barclay,Bulaga or Sherrod..
Bulaga was pretty good pass blocking,not as good run blocking
Barclay is just the opposite
Sherrod, is bigger then both,seems a bit more athletic then both but hasnt played much due tot that unfortunate ,Horrific Leg injury but if hes healthy ( really Sherrod 1st camp,,if you remember Sherrod missed the 11 camp with the lockout,so he didnt play much until mid season,then broke his leg a few games in,,missed 12 camp as he needed a year to heal up and missed alot of the 13 camp healing up,did practice but on the PUP list until late 13,,got some playing time vs Det. did ok but proved healthy in the little time he did play,so encouraging)
vcbears34

Opelousas, LA

#6 Mar 15, 2014
Im a bears fan and loved peppers here but following all the games the last 2 years i hate to say it but hes done not even close to the same player. And we did rotate him alot last year and he was getting blocked by no name lineman still not getting close to the quaterback.
GBPmies

Finland

#7 Mar 15, 2014
vcbears34 wrote:
Im a bears fan and loved peppers here but following all the games the last 2 years i hate to say it but hes done not even close to the same player. And we did rotate him alot last year and he was getting blocked by no name lineman still not getting close to the quaterback.
81.8% playing time that ranked first on a bad dline after all the injuries. So for every 10 plays he plaed 8 and he rotated out for 2. Good lookin out though. Enjoy the sour grapes!
Jeremy

Barnesville, MN

#8 Mar 15, 2014
Peppers now has Matthews behind him and that alone will keep him relevant...teams will have to respect that tandem and he will bring vet leadership for Neal and Jones. I like the signing.
normallylikeyell ow

Du Bois, PA

#9 Mar 15, 2014
I think this says more about our LB situation than anything else--we may see more 4-3 alignments this year. Capers ran a lot of 4-3 schemes down in Houston, due to personnel. It makes a lot of sense when you consider how solid Hawks has been and how bad his sidekicks have been. Peppers at 287 is small for a 5 technique, but if the aim is get upfield he can help out. With he and Neal, you can put a pass rush unit of Neal, Peppers, Matthews and Daniels/Jones out there.
The perplexing thing to me is that it doesn't address our run defense. But considering the small cap hit, it's an interesting experiment.
GBPmies

Finland

#10 Mar 15, 2014
normallylikeyellow wrote:
I think this says more about our LB situation than anything else--we may see more 4-3 alignments this year. Capers ran a lot of 4-3 schemes down in Houston, due to personnel. It makes a lot of sense when you consider how solid Hawks has been and how bad his sidekicks have been. Peppers at 287 is small for a 5 technique, but if the aim is get upfield he can help out. With he and Neal, you can put a pass rush unit of Neal, Peppers, Matthews and Daniels/Jones out there.
The perplexing thing to me is that it doesn't address our run defense. But considering the small cap hit, it's an interesting experiment.
I think Peppers has the measurable to play DE. I know this is not the ‘tell all’ of the DE position but I just used the 9ers as an example who have DEs in with similar measurable. I am sure we can find others similar--- and others a bit heavier too… but he is also 6-7. For 5 technique he should be OK or maybe they want him to slide in to a 3 technique in the nickel which they use quite a bit.

49ers
McDonald, Ray DT 6-3 290
Smith, Justin DT 6-4 285
Carradine, Tank DT 6-4 273 (was a rookie and will probably add weight)

Packers
Jones, Datone DE 6-4 285 (was a rookie and will probably add weight)
Peppers, Julius DE 6-7 287

Like you said... it is an interesting experiment for a low cap hit. It also may give a boost of confidence to an otherwise young group. IMO I like it, at least it is something new with a hint of promise.
eric

Monroe, WI

#11 Mar 15, 2014
normallylikeyellow wrote:
I think this says more about our LB situation than anything else--we may see more 4-3 alignments this year. Capers ran a lot of 4-3 schemes down in Houston, due to personnel. It makes a lot of sense when you consider how solid Hawks has been and how bad his sidekicks have been. Peppers at 287 is small for a 5 technique, but if the aim is get upfield he can help out. With he and Neal, you can put a pass rush unit of Neal, Peppers, Matthews and Daniels/Jones out there.
The perplexing thing to me is that it doesn't address our run defense. But considering the small cap hit, it's an interesting experiment.
I think the run defense comes with Jolly coming back.Now i think that opens the Packers up to drafting a Calvin Pryor type ( unless they are 100% Hyde is the answer) or a ILB/OLB early as well as maybe a DE/NT in the 2nd and the T,E from IOWA in the 3rd and since Peppers is prob. a 1 yr,Raji is signed 1 yr they can go DE/NT in the 4th or 5th to develop and Corner in the 4th or 5th as Williams is hitting his last year of his deal.OR go safety so if Morgan Burnett sucks, we can cut him loose freeing up cap space but 1 thing is for sure.If they bring back Jolly and Raji is back to 10 form at NT and we can get a nice step up from either Jones or Boyd and production from Worthy,that will help the secondary by a lot And dont forget Casey Hayward is back and if he stays healthy ( hammy) that itself bolsters the secondary,,losing him as as big a hit as losing anyone
normallylikeyell ow

Du Bois, PA

#12 Mar 16, 2014
GBP, good analysis. I guess we'll see. The guy's 34 and playing in a new scheme, that's my only concern apart from how fresh he will be late in the season. We know he's a great player.
eric, we had those guys last year (ok no Worthy really) and couldn't stop the run, so I don't see much difference. Hayward's not tackling anybody. That's the worst part of his game. Jones has been mediocre at 2 positions. I agree on the safety and I think most of us do. The idea (smells like to me) is to play more 4-3 on early downs and count on the D line to make more plays, rather than just eat blockers. i.e. Less pressure on the LB group in general.
eric

Monroe, WI

#13 Mar 16, 2014
You look at the list of needs/
Safety,LB,Defensive line.well....
They seem to think Hyde is the answer ( i do to)
Peppers ( im guessing) is their answer to Defensive line
So that leaves LB and im hoping there are still a few available LB in FA cy
There is the draft and im sure Sam Barrington,Nate Palmer,Andy Malumba and Jamari lattimore will get every chance at ILB but if they could grab a CJ Mosley type by trading up,well, that is a no brainer isnt it?
The further we go..the more i think TT should go after the Big TE from Iowa..( even if hes listed as a 3rd rounder,well, grab the guy with our late 2nd OR trade up for a very early 3rd
GBPmies

Finland

#14 Mar 16, 2014
normallylikeyellow wrote:
GBP, good analysis. I guess we'll see. The guy's 34 and playing in a new scheme, that's my only concern apart from how fresh he will be late in the season. We know he's a great player.
eric, we had those guys last year (ok no Worthy really) and couldn't stop the run, so I don't see much difference. Hayward's not tackling anybody. That's the worst part of his game. Jones has been mediocre at 2 positions. I agree on the safety and I think most of us do. The idea (smells like to me) is to play more 4-3 on early downs and count on the D line to make more plays, rather than just eat blockers. i.e. Less pressure on the LB group in general.
I really like the idea of the Packers being able to run more of a 4-3 when the down and distance calls for it or if/when they feel they have a better match up. McCarthy likes to and has done a good job of running his offense and finding a way to get somebody in a favorable match up and exploit it, the defense should be able to do the same IMO. They should be more forceful instead of reactive.

I like how the idea of changing the personnel groups around and keeping offensive coordinators guessing. With Peppers it can give them some options based on the offenses personnel group. Other teams see him run on the field and have no idea if he lines up at DE or OLB. Same can go for Neal and Perry too. They can also move around pre-snap. I also think Matthews can move to ILB from time to time (playing the run or rushing on stunts).

I can imagine Raji, Worthy, Peppers, D Jones, Matthews, Hawk, and Neal/Perry come running onto the field as the front 7 (many other combos too)…. Where are they lining up? Do they line up in 5-2, 4-3, or 3-4 (Matthews move inside Peppers or Neal/Perry to LB). Do they line up that way and then change after being set? There seems to be a lot of options and pieces to move around ---not even considering blitzing DBs. If Capers is really the strategic wizard some say he is then he should be very happy with this signing.

IF GB adds a good S I think our secondary is GREAT. I like our depth at CB. I like drafting Pryor in the 1st if he is there.
GBPmies

Finland

#15 Mar 16, 2014
eric wrote:
You look at the list of needs/
Safety,LB,Defensive line.well....
They seem to think Hyde is the answer ( i do to)
Peppers ( im guessing) is their answer to Defensive line
So that leaves LB and im hoping there are still a few available LB in FA cy
There is the draft and im sure Sam Barrington,Nate Palmer,Andy Malumba and Jamari lattimore will get every chance at ILB but if they could grab a CJ Mosley type by trading up,well, that is a no brainer isnt it?
The further we go..the more i think TT should go after the Big TE from Iowa..( even if hes listed as a 3rd rounder,well, grab the guy with our late 2nd OR trade up for a very early 3rd
I think Palmer and Malumba are OLBs only…. not ILBs. Lattimore adds great depth and a solid ST player, a ‘maybe’ as a starter and B Jones is not my favorite but may be serviceable. They said they like Barrington but we will have to wait and see how he develops. I see him taking over for Hawk in due time.

I don’t think the Packers move up to draft anyone in the 1st...I would move back before I move up in this draft. There should be solid players where they are at. No need to part with a draft pick in what I hear is a deep draft. They should have options. I would like to see them add a ILB and S in the first 2 picks but that may not be possible. They may need to move up in the 2nd to make that happen.

Just guessing and if I had it my way in round 1 and 2 I would like to come away with S Pryor and C Martin or ILB Mosely and S Ward. Taking a HUGE center in the 2nd rd is an option too IMO. Sitton and Lang are very very good guards…and a beastly center with Lacy running behind them sounds FUN! I think they can wait on a TE until later rounds.

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#16 Mar 16, 2014
Peppers is over the hill.Way to much money to pay him.He wont be able to keep up with the younger offensive line of the Vikings.Jared Allen would have made more sense cause hes got a lot left in the tank.The Packers had to turn away from the going younger theory cause Ted Thompson cant figure out how to draft the right defensive players.Maybe Jeff Saturday will come out of retirement to play center for them.

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#17 Mar 16, 2014
GBPmies wrote:
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I really like the idea of the Packers being able to run more of a 4-3 when the down and distance calls for it or if/when they feel they have a better match up. McCarthy likes to and has done a good job of running his offense and finding a way to get somebody in a favorable match up and exploit it, the defense should be able to do the same IMO. They should be more forceful instead of reactive.
I like how the idea of changing the personnel groups around and keeping offensive coordinators guessing. With Peppers it can give them some options based on the offenses personnel group. Other teams see him run on the field and have no idea if he lines up at DE or OLB. Same can go for Neal and Perry too. They can also move around pre-snap. I also think Matthews can move to ILB from time to time (playing the run or rushing on stunts).
I can imagine Raji, Worthy, Peppers, D Jones, Matthews, Hawk, and Neal/Perry come running onto the field as the front 7 (many other combos too)…. Where are they lining up? Do they line up in 5-2, 4-3, or 3-4 (Matthews move inside Peppers or Neal/Perry to LB). Do they line up that way and then change after being set? There seems to be a lot of options and pieces to move around ---not even considering blitzing DBs. If Capers is really the strategic wizard some say he is then he should be very happy with this signing.
IF GB adds a good S I think our secondary is GREAT. I like our depth at CB. I like drafting Pryor in the 1st if he is there.
Peppers hasnt really been any good since he played for Tennessee.Maybe you can get Vanden Bosch too.LMAO.
GBPmies

Finland

#18 Mar 17, 2014
Bleeds Purple wrote:
Peppers is over the hill.Way to much money to pay him.He wont be able to keep up with the younger offensive line of the Vikings.Jared Allen would have made more sense cause hes got a lot left in the tank.The Packers had to turn away from the going younger theory cause Ted Thompson cant figure out how to draft the right defensive players.Maybe Jeff Saturday will come out of retirement to play center for them.
Thanks Bleeds for more of your expert offseason “wishful thinking”. Nobody is better at it than you.

Forgive me if I no longer have the interest in our pointless going back and forth with you like we did ALL last offseason as you “tried” to convince me and yourself the vikings were going to be a very good team and win the NFC North.

After about a month into the regular season you abandoned ship and left the forum because you could not have been more wrong. Not surprised to see you back during the offseason again- Every Vikings fans favorite part of the year so they can dream they are a good team.

If you want to put on some big boy pants, play nice, and be realistic then maybe just maybe I would care to respond. As for the type of discussions we have had in the past with the endless pointless banter…. It is not worth it to me anymore and a waste of time.
GBPmies

Finland

#19 Mar 17, 2014
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>Peppers hasnt really been any good since he played for Tennessee.Maybe you can get Vanden Bosch too.LMAO.
Peppers never played for Tennessee. So you can stop "laughing your ass off” now…. there is nothing funny about stupidity.

Enjoy your offseaon.
eric

Monroe, WI

#20 Mar 17, 2014
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>Peppers hasnt really been any good since he played for Tennessee.Maybe you can get Vanden Bosch too.LMAO.
Problem is Peppers played for Carolina,then Chicago,now GB...to your other point,,thats the great part of it,Peppers is only costing the Packers 3.5M in cap space ( which is nothing) Allen is asking for a ton of cash and already stated if Denver ( or anyone) doesnt match his asking price,he will walk away.
Peppers clearly is past his prime and thats why the contract is designed basically to be a 1 yr deal and if Peppers surprises everyone with a big year sack wise,GB already has it taken care of for a 2nd year at slightly more cost but Peppers has to contribute
Id love to see Peppers pull off a Favre.
Favre sucked in NY,,signed on to Minn..Had a career year his 1st year in Purple then faded away into retirement after one of his worse years in 2010.
Lets hope Peppers can be so motivated that he finds some youth in 2014 and has one of his best years ( of his career) as Packer just to show up the Bears. Now will he? I doubt it seriously but i can see him play better in 2014 then in 2013 with a change of scenery and we see it every day with many players. He is clearly past his prime and not close to what he once was,but, GB needed a veteran on the def. line,so here he is.

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