Why did Brady get a pass on player ra...

Why did Brady get a pass on player ranking?

There are 8 comments on the USA Today story from Jul 9, 2014, titled Why did Brady get a pass on player ranking?. In it, USA Today reports that:

Attempting to rank NFL players across positions is hardly an exercise in precision, but the finale of NFL Network's Top 100 Players of 2014 presented more than few issues.

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Terry

Cypress, CA

#1 Jul 10, 2014
Brady did not get a pass. He was phenomenal and people recognized only part of how great he actually was. Given his lack of support he somehow magically pulled off a league leading 5 comebacks (should have been 7 if his teammates could catch and the league didn't want Peyton as their marketing tool). Had Amendola or Hoomqnawanui not dropped game winning TDs, Brady would have led Pats to top seed in Postseason and MVP. Brady also scored the second most points in the league behind a guy who had five quality receivers and 3 that made the pro bowl. Fans need to wake up and realize it is not the raw numbers but what you do with what you have that really counts.
Taken in context, Brady was asked to make fire with wet matches in a torrential downpour and gale force winds while Peyton had lighters and gasoline, a solar oven and butane stove fully fueled, in warm sunny weather. What is really amazing is that it has taken Peyton this long to put together the year he did having all the assets he did, before doing what he always does, blow it out his assets.
The media has been saying Brady is losing it and is no longer a top QB because of his 60.5% completion rate, yet they fail to tell you that his receivers had the second most drops in the league at over 40. Had these been caught, Brady would have had the highest completion rate in the league. Had they only dropped the league average, Brady would have had a near 64% completion percentage.
Media is so one sided for Manning day in and day out because they want him to win so badly. And that is what he has done in the past. His lone Postseason that ended successfully had him with 3 TDs and 7 INTs, showing us he won ...badly.
Brady's only weak point is not found in the defenses he faces but in the adage that the pen is mightier than the sword. Brady may be great but the idiot media chooses to turn a blind eye. Advanced Analytics showed Brady's performance last year, GIVEN HIS ASSETS AVAILABLE, was the best NFL season ever by a QB, though not the best when using raw numbers only (that rightfully belongs to Peyton, except for those extra 7 yards the NFL Front Office added to his passing total to "grant" him the passing yards record. An act that will forever go down in history as showing that the league is in Peyton's pocket while forcing every other QB to earn it).

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#2 Jul 10, 2014
Terry wrote:
Brady did not get a pass. He was phenomenal and people recognized only part of how great he actually was. Given his lack of support he somehow magically pulled off a league leading 5 comebacks (should have been 7 if his teammates could catch and the league didn't want Peyton as their marketing tool). Had Amendola or Hoomqnawanui not dropped game winning TDs, Brady would have led Pats to top seed in Postseason and MVP. Brady also scored the second most points in the league behind a guy who had five quality receivers and 3 that made the pro bowl. Fans need to wake up and realize it is not the raw numbers but what you do with what you have that really counts.
Taken in context, Brady was asked to make fire with wet matches in a torrential downpour and gale force winds while Peyton had lighters and gasoline, a solar oven and butane stove fully fueled, in warm sunny weather. What is really amazing is that it has taken Peyton this long to put together the year he did having all the assets he did, before doing what he always does, blow it out his assets.
The media has been saying Brady is losing it and is no longer a top QB because of his 60.5% completion rate, yet they fail to tell you that his receivers had the second most drops in the league at over 40. Had these been caught, Brady would have had the highest completion rate in the league. Had they only dropped the league average, Brady would have had a near 64% completion percentage.
Media is so one sided for Manning day in and day out because they want him to win so badly. And that is what he has done in the past. His lone Postseason that ended successfully had him with 3 TDs and 7 INTs, showing us he won ...badly.
Brady's only weak point is not found in the defenses he faces but in the adage that the pen is mightier than the sword. Brady may be great but the idiot media chooses to turn a blind eye. Advanced Analytics showed Brady's performance last year, GIVEN HIS ASSETS AVAILABLE, was the best NFL season ever by a QB, though not the best when using raw numbers only (that rightfully belongs to Peyton, except for those extra 7 yards the NFL Front Office added to his passing total to "grant" him the passing yards record. An act that will forever go down in history as showing that the league is in Peyton's pocket while forcing every other QB to earn it).
Brady's numbers last year SUCKED !
Terry

Cypress, CA

#3 Jul 11, 2014
Crazytempest wrote:
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Brady's numbers last year SUCKED !
They were depressed that is true and Peyton's were elevated. So Peyton wins right? Not so fast!!! Stats are raw numbers and need analytical evaluation to be taken in context. Context that proves Brady had to lift mountains to get a win because of the lack of talented personnel at key skilled positions around him, who led the league in dropped passes. Brady also beat Peyton head to head after being down by 24 points. Peyton meanwhile was dealt aces and still found ways to lose to 3 of the 4 winning teams he faced in the AFC, was given the game by refs against San Diego with a phantom pass interference call, needed to have Welker take out Talib to get by the Pats and then proceeded to stink the place out like no QB ever did before with his debacle in the SB. while any QB could have won with Denver, because even Tebow did it.
Taken in context, Brady had the best year ever by any QB ever, taking a bad team and making it exceptional. Remember a QBs job is to win not just puy up big numbers against the worst in the league (peyton played against the second easiest schedule in the entire league and with the best offense. His numbers should have been like this more often given his support in Indy as well). So Manning took an exceptional team and finally got out of them what any good QB should have. His 7 TDs against a decimated Ravens defense who had never worked together before was ranted about but insiders expected big numbers. Not so big against Seattle and other teams with winning records.
Mensan

Cypress, CA

#4 Jul 11, 2014
Just a little insight. The word "fan" is short for fanatic. This means that the intellect is not the ruling member of their insights. Rather, they are ruled by their emotions and desires for their favorite to be the best.
Even when the facts (meaning properly evaluated statistics taken in context), disagree with them they will opt for any stat that gives them hope that their team or their guy is the best. Hence Peyton's MVPs and greatness facade written by men claiming to be analysts when in fact they are football lovers who have contacts, that are given a position to publish ideas they can't logically backup with sound analytics. Welcome to today's NFL where the best are overlooked for whoever the media deems their favorites.
Just look at the NFLs recent top 100. Does anyone really believe that only one defensive player belongs in the top ten? And while Richard Sherman is exceptional, he is not even the best CB in the league. Just the one getting the most press currently.
Get it, people who put their brains in park actually believe that the media hype for an individual equates to that player being better. Thinking men know to evaluate the facts based on context.
I could tell you that Patrick Peterson and Tom Brady are the best, but until you figure it out for yourself, you will just be a lemming of another type. Now you know.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#5 Jul 11, 2014
Terry wrote:
<quoted text>They were depressed that is true and Peyton's were elevated. So Peyton wins right? Not so fast!!! Stats are raw numbers and need analytical evaluation to be taken in context. Context that proves Brady had to lift mountains to get a win because of the lack of talented personnel at key skilled positions around him, who led the league in dropped passes. Brady also beat Peyton head to head after being down by 24 points. Peyton meanwhile was dealt aces and still found ways to lose to 3 of the 4 winning teams he faced in the AFC, was given the game by refs against San Diego with a phantom pass interference call, needed to have Welker take out Talib to get by the Pats and then proceeded to stink the place out like no QB ever did before with his debacle in the SB. while any QB could have won with Denver, because even Tebow did it.
Taken in context, Brady had the best year ever by any QB ever, taking a bad team and making it exceptional. Remember a QBs job is to win not just puy up big numbers against the worst in the league (peyton played against the second easiest schedule in the entire league and with the best offense. His numbers should have been like this more often given his support in Indy as well). So Manning took an exceptional team and finally got out of them what any good QB should have. His 7 TDs against a decimated Ravens defense who had never worked together before was ranted about but insiders expected big numbers. Not so big against Seattle and other teams with winning records.
Both Michael Irving and Dione Sanders agree that Manning's accomplishments far surpass Brady's last year . Brady's system was already in place ,all that was needed was to plug in guys , even Brady in the past was replaced and Belichek was there to keep things tight . Manning on the other hand relocated and had to teach a whole new offence to new guys .
Mensans

Cypress, CA

#6 Jul 12, 2014
Crazytempest wrote:
<quoted text>
Both Michael Irving and Dione Sanders agree that Manning's accomplishments far surpass Brady's last year . Brady's system was already in place ,all that was needed was to plug in guys , even Brady in the past was replaced and Belichek was there to keep things tight . Manning on the other hand relocated and had to teach a whole new offence to new guys .
I wasn't aware that Irving and Sanders were QBs. They just look at raw numbers and suck up the hype like most of you, and haven't a clue as Steve Young (not only a QB but a HoF QB) actually analyzes the facts. NFL Insiders still take Brady almost 10-1, got to be a reason.
It's true, Manning's raw data far exceeded Brady's but when you are dealt receivers, the worst of which was better than Brady's best, with less than half the sacks and playing at altitude, Your offensive numbers should dwarf your competitors. Funny Manning never did it before with his HoF WRs and HoF RBs, when he should have. Brady had a good receiver just one year in Moss and lit it up.
While Manning had high raw numbers, it was Brady with the real accomplishments. He even beat Peyton head to head with a much lesser team, and took an 8-8 team at best to a 12-4 record (could have been 14-2 if Amendola and Hoomanawanui could catch and a ref wasn't bullied into picking up his pass interference flag against Carolina. This single move took the number one post season seed as well as the MVP from Brady and handed it to Manning, as the league intended. Just as they gave Manning seven extra yards for a passing record he didn't earn on the field). Meanwhile Peyton beat up on the dregs of the league, 2nd easiest schedule and lost to 3 of the 4 winning AFC Teams he faced.
In short Peyton had an easy road with quality support and still only ran up his totals to beat the losers and injured.
Brady had a decimated team and rookie receivers who dropped the 2nd most passes in the league while being sacked almost 3 times as often. There is no reason Brady's team should have been anywhere close to the Broncos last year but because of Brady phenomenal play and Manning's let downs agains winning teams, they were, neck and neck. Peyton even needed NFL Refs looking the other way for Peyton's benefit. It shows that the league thinks the fans are too stupid to acknowledge the great work Brady did because of Peytins high raw stats.
Yes Manning set records but with a team so loaded that Tebow was just two games shy of the SuperBowl and he isn't even a QB anybody wants. Without the help from some refs and an injury imposed on Talib by Welker, Brady and not Manning would have been in last years SB. And as we all knowand Brady would have kept it close and not stunk it up the way Peyton did.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#7 Jul 12, 2014
Mensans wrote:
<quoted text>I wasn't aware that Irving and Sanders were QBs. They just look at raw numbers and suck up the hype like most of you, and haven't a clue as Steve Young (not only a QB but a HoF QB) actually analyzes the facts. NFL Insiders still take Brady almost 10-1, got to be a reason.
It's true, Manning's raw data far exceeded Brady's but when you are dealt receivers, the worst of which was better than Brady's best, with less than half the sacks and playing at altitude, Your offensive numbers should dwarf your competitors. Funny Manning never did it before with his HoF WRs and HoF RBs, when he should have. Brady had a good receiver just one year in Moss and lit it up.
While Manning had high raw numbers, it was Brady with the real accomplishments. He even beat Peyton head to head with a much lesser team, and took an 8-8 team at best to a 12-4 record (could have been 14-2 if Amendola and Hoomanawanui could catch and a ref wasn't bullied into picking up his pass interference flag against Carolina. This single move took the number one post season seed as well as the MVP from Brady and handed it to Manning, as the league intended. Just as they gave Manning seven extra yards for a passing record he didn't earn on the field). Meanwhile Peyton beat up on the dregs of the league, 2nd easiest schedule and lost to 3 of the 4 winning AFC Teams he faced.
In short Peyton had an easy road with quality support and still only ran up his totals to beat the losers and injured.
Brady had a decimated team and rookie receivers who dropped the 2nd most passes in the league while being sacked almost 3 times as often. There is no reason Brady's team should have been anywhere close to the Broncos last year but because of Brady phenomenal play and Manning's let downs agains winning teams, they were, neck and neck. Peyton even needed NFL Refs looking the other way for Peyton's benefit. It shows that the league thinks the fans are too stupid to acknowledge the great work Brady did because of Peytins high raw stats.
Yes Manning set records but with a team so loaded that Tebow was just two games shy of the SuperBowl and he isn't even a QB anybody wants. Without the help from some refs and an injury imposed on Talib by Welker, Brady and not Manning would have been in last years SB. And as we all knowand Brady would have kept it close and not stunk it up the way Peyton did.
Nah , Michael Irving and Dion Sanders have a better take than you . Watch the NFL network . They mention a few other factors that you never took into consideration . You'll realize that not only did you NEVER play Qb in the NFL , you probably never ever have met somebody that new somebody that ever met a benchwarmer in the NFL let alone 2 Hall Of Famers like Michael Irving and Dion Sanders . Cheers professor couch potato .
Mad Max

Cypress, CA

#8 Jul 13, 2014
Crazytempest wrote:
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Nah , Michael Irving and Dion Sanders have a better take than you . Watch the NFL network . They mention a few other factors that you never took into consideration . You'll realize that not only did you NEVER play Qb in the NFL , you probably never ever have met somebody that new somebody that ever met a benchwarmer in the NFL let alone 2 Hall Of Famers like Michael Irving and Dion Sanders . Cheers professor couch potato .
Wow. Still not the brightest bulb in the house. The guy was talking about what others said. The others being Steve Young, a guy better positioned to judge a QB and real analysts not old football players trying to cash in on their past fame and not really analysts.
Learned a long time ago that when someone has to resort to a potty mouth, it means he has sh&t for brains. Notice how I didn't actually have to use a bad word but got the idea across. Also notice how it was a reference from someone else and not a direct attack on you, except for the fact that you might fit the mold. And as we all know, mold is nasty and needs to be cleaned up. Nuance, it's a wonderful thing. It's what separates the educated from those who are not. Wishing you an improved outlook and more.

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