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Is This the Beginning of the End for New England Patriots QB Tom Brady?

There are 40 comments on the BleacherReport story from Jan 23, 2014, titled Is This the Beginning of the End for New England Patriots QB Tom Brady?. In it, BleacherReport reports that:

It has been a memorable season for the New England Patriots , but a forgettable one for starting quarterback Tom Brady .

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“Repent and worship God”

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#21 Feb 18, 2014
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>Since the facts are all on my side, that's leaving you only your wits to respond. You got the gun but you got no ammo. That leaves name calling and you can only speak that which you know. Sorry to hear you were abused and now only lash out at others when they correct you. How else will you ever improve? Or don't you want to?
Considering you change your screen name as often as women change shoes, you're merely projecting.

No man up and go get your shine box so that you may shine Eli's trophies from the Super Bowl.
Dave

La Palma, CA

#22 Feb 18, 2014
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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Considering you change your screen name as often as women change shoes, you're merely projecting.
No man up and go get your shine box so that you may shine Eli's trophies from the Super Bowl.
Please explain what you think projecting is and how it relates to what I am doing, so we can all have a good laugh when you get this one wrong, like most of your past remarks. You really like to use sound bites that don't fit the situation. A lot like the sound bites that convinced you that Peyton is in Brady and Montana class.
You also seem stuck on recycle, that thing of yours about shining Eli's trophies. What is it about shiny things that excites you? Maybe you could get a flashlight and a mirror. Then you would be in hog heaven. Either that or buy yourself some more high heels. Can't help you with that. In matter of women's shoes, I'll defer to you. A man has got to know his limitations.

“Repent and worship God”

Since: Jul 13

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#23 Feb 18, 2014
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>Please explain what you think projecting is and how it relates to what I am doing, so we can all have a good laugh when you get this one wrong, like most of your past remarks. You really like to use sound bites that don't fit the situation. A lot like the sound bites that convinced you that Peyton is in Brady and Montana class.
You also seem stuck on recycle, that thing of yours about shining Eli's trophies. What is it about shiny things that excites you? Maybe you could get a flashlight and a mirror. Then you would be in hog heaven. Either that or buy yourself some more high heels. Can't help you with that. In matter of women's shoes, I'll defer to you. A man has got to know his limitations.
Ponder upon what was stated to you and then retrieve your shine box to make Eli's trophies look shinier than ever, Sybil.

By the way, I don't believe that there is a greatest QB of all time. So go drool over Brady and Manning elsewhere.
Prometheus

La Palma, CA

#24 Feb 19, 2014
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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Ponder upon what was stated to you and then retrieve your shine box to make Eli's trophies look shinier than ever, Sybil.
By the way, I don't believe that there is a greatest QB of all time. So go drool over Brady and Manning elsewhere.
So you are a child now, because you can't accept that your arguments are wrong or of little value. The idea is to explain why your thoughts have value, or some give up as you have.
You have taken a loser position, so you are right where you ought to be.
Since you think QB A is better than QB B, you obviously think its possible to compare QBs. It then seems reasonable that is you carry this premise out to its logical conclusion that a 'best QB' should be able to be declared. Since your arguments are ridiculous when analyzed in depth and shown the light of day, you now decide that you don't like to take ownership for your previous position and run away saying you don't believe there is a best QB. You are very transparent to many of us.
Name calling is a fine art and you need help in this area as well.
Why would Brady polish Mannings trophies when he has more SuperBowls and the Most Ever NFL Conference Championship Trophies of his own to shine. In fact he has more total trophies than both Mannings put together. And that's about right, Brady minus Peyton equals Eli. There you have it. Peyton is just an Eli away from being as good as Brady. Question now is which Manning is better. The one with 2 SBs or the one who chases stats and loses to winning teams, has a losing post season record and a losing SB record and throws 32% more INTs per game than Brady (Eli throws at even a higher INT %). Manning is a very ood QB. Those in the know place him with Favre and Marino NOT with Brady and Montana. NOT even with Unitas and Elway. Some even have Steve Young ahead of Peyton.

“Repent and worship God”

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#25 Feb 19, 2014
Prometheus wrote:
<quoted text>So you are a child now, because you can't accept that your arguments are wrong or of little value. The idea is to explain why your thoughts have value, or some give up as you have.
You have taken a loser position, so you are right where you ought to be.
Since you think QB A is better than QB B, you obviously think its possible to compare QBs. It then seems reasonable that is you carry this premise out to its logical conclusion that a 'best QB' should be able to be declared. Since your arguments are ridiculous when analyzed in depth and shown the light of day, you now decide that you don't like to take ownership for your previous position and run away saying you don't believe there is a best QB. You are very transparent to many of us.
Name calling is a fine art and you need help in this area as well.
Why would Brady polish Mannings trophies when he has more SuperBowls and the Most Ever NFL Conference Championship Trophies of his own to shine. In fact he has more total trophies than both Mannings put together. And that's about right, Brady minus Peyton equals Eli. There you have it. Peyton is just an Eli away from being as good as Brady. Question now is which Manning is better. The one with 2 SBs or the one who chases stats and loses to winning teams, has a losing post season record and a losing SB record and throws 32% more INTs per game than Brady (Eli throws at even a higher INT %). Manning is a very ood QB. Those in the know place him with Favre and Marino NOT with Brady and Montana. NOT even with Unitas and Elway. Some even have Steve Young ahead of Peyton.
Go get your shine box instead of obsessing over two men who are into women not men.

We all know you use different poster names on Topix and are probably dealing with a split personality hence why you're called Sybil.
Gisele Buncheeks

Miami, FL

#26 Feb 19, 2014
I have Papa John ahead of Payton.
Freddie

La Palma, CA

#27 Feb 20, 2014
Gisele Buncheeks wrote:
I have Papa John ahead of Payton.
Peyton thinks he is ahead of Papa John, but then Colorado allows dope smoking.
Maybe that's why Seattle decimated Peyton. Maybe he got nervous before the big game and needed something to chill out and slow the game down. Well at least his legacy gets to chill, and he sure slowed the media from coronating him best ever. One more "crushing" in a big game and Peyton could drop out of the top 10-15 QBs, now at #7 or 8, while Brady is at #1or 2 with Montana.:)
Freddie

La Palma, CA

#28 Feb 20, 2014
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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Go get your shine box instead of obsessing over two men who are into women not men.
We all know you use different poster names on Topix and are probably dealing with a split personality hence why you're called Sybil.
Are you sure it's not based on a one eyed giant you can't pay his obligations?
Hence sy bil.
BelliChickenChok er

Denver, CO

#29 Feb 20, 2014
May Day
May Day
Going Down
Help Me I've fallen and I can't get up
Can somebody come in here and draft some talent...I can't
I wish all my stud players wouldn't commit murder
Can I get a real cameraman who knows how to cheat without getting caught?
Can I get a QB who isn't such a pillow-biter?
Prometheus

La Palma, CA

#30 Feb 21, 2014
BelliChickenChoker wrote:
May Day
May Day
Going Down
Help Me I've fallen and I can't get up
Can somebody come in here and draft some talent...I can't
I wish all my stud players wouldn't commit murder
Can I get a real cameraman who knows how to cheat without getting caught?
Can I get a QB who isn't such a pillow-biter?
After that debacle in the SB it's no wonder you want to change the topic. Even Peyton can't bring himself to say he is embarrassed. Wow he must be so embarrassed he can't admit it. That's what you get when you have the 2nd easiest schedule, lots of stats. And when you believe the hype because of your stats that spells doom. Should have seen it coming when Peyton lost to 3 of the 4 winning teams in the AFC he played against. Wow, 3 out of 4. Not the sign of a winner. Best receiving corps, best offensive line and Peyton scores less points than the Seattle DEFENSE. some MVP, huh? You would think a debacle like that would mean he didn't deserve the MVP, and you would be right.
Freddie

La Palma, CA

#31 Mar 15, 2014
Prometheus wrote:
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After that debacle in the SB it's no wonder you want to change the topic. Even Peyton can't bring himself to say he is embarrassed. Wow he must be so embarrassed he can't admit it. That's what you get when you have the 2nd easiest schedule, lots of stats. And when you believe the hype because of your stats that spells doom. Should have seen it coming when Peyton lost to 3 of the 4 winning teams in the AFC he played against. Wow, 3 out of 4. Not the sign of a winner. Best receiving corps, best offensive line and Peyton scores less points than the Seattle DEFENSE. some MVP, huh? You would think a debacle like that would mean he didn't deserve the MVP, and you would be right.
Best advice I've heard in a long time is to check out what the media says and consider the opposite as true. Best way to make a buck too. If the media can use us to make a buck only seems fair to return the favor. So far media is taunting Denver as the big FA winner. Problem is that no matter what they do, if they have Manning at QB, he will wilt in the big games. The bigger the game the more horrendous the wilting. Is that why they called him Wilt Chamberlain? Maybe we should start calling Peyton, Wilt Manning. Even his baby brother would have done better given that loaded Bronco team Peyton screwed over. Some MVP, and we should all remember the media types who continually push Peyton on us year after year, as the best ever. RIGHT. Best ever with a losing record in SBs, ilosing record in post season, losing record against winning teams, all while having the best of everything. Best receivers, best linemen and best stadiums. He should be crushing everyone in all categories, BUT he is not. Brees is on track to take all his career records away and Brady is close to follow. Given that Brees also plays in a dome, people should figure out that Brady playing in the windy Northeast and being so close stat-wise makes him far superior, winning aside. But when one adds in the winning, he far outdistances himself from them.

flbadcatowner

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#32 Mar 15, 2014
It is too early to write New England off as they were supposed to fall apart in 2013 and instead did surprisingly well. If you guys want to argue about whether or not Brady was the best of all time, leave me out of it. No point in wasting time over a discussion that can never be completely resolved. I find it hard to believe some of the personal attacks being passed back and forth. If one needs to resort to gutter debating tactics, it makes me wonder about the strength of his argument and his believability.
BigIrish

Covington, VA

#33 Mar 16, 2014
Yes. They did add any WRs!

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#34 Mar 16, 2014
Still looks like Denver and New England are the powers, this upcoming season....with the Ravens and Chiefs close.....
Dave

La Palma, CA

#35 Mar 16, 2014
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Still looks like Denver and New England are the powers, this upcoming season....with the Ravens and Chiefs close.....
Nailed it...Denver and New England are the class of the AFC, but...
Or better yet, with the Ravens and Chiefs not so close. Indy and Cincinnati are closer. Maybe even San Diego. And the Texans if they pick up Mallet could surprise.
Two big ifs
If Pats can get a DE who can pressure the QB and
If Peyton gets a sports psychologist to help him get over the nerves of big games
Otherwise it's NFC SB winner again

“Repent and worship God”

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#36 Mar 16, 2014
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Still looks like Denver and New England are the powers, this upcoming season....with the Ravens and Chiefs close.....
I have a NFC team winning the Super Bowl.

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#37 Mar 17, 2014
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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I have a NFC team winning the Super Bowl.
Would likely be the 49ers, as the Seahawks have lost too many guys to free agency....
Class of the AFC

Houston, TX

#38 Mar 17, 2014
Is This the Beginning of the End for New England Patriots QB Tom Brady?

Lets hope not, I like watching them try to build a championship team each year only to choke in the AFC Championship game.

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#39 Mar 17, 2014
Class of the AFC wrote:
Is This the Beginning of the End for New England Patriots QB Tom Brady?
Lets hope not, I like watching them try to build a championship team each year only to choke in the AFC Championship game.
He probably has'nt accomplished as much in life, as you?
Janitor

La Palma, CA

#40 Mar 17, 2014
Class of the AFC wrote:
Is This the Beginning of the End for New England Patriots QB Tom Brady?
Lets hope not, I like watching them try to build a championship team each year only to choke in the AFC Championship game.
Yet Brady has still won the most Conference Championships of any QB in NFL History. Brady has as many as the two Mannings combined. Even when his team has no business being there, like last year, he straps them on his back and gets them there. Still like that almost every owner and GM picks Brady as their dream QB. Gotta be a reason you are missing, or refusing to admit. Can anyone spell J-E-A-L-O-U-S-Y?
As for choking, think you got him confused with Peyton, the NFL consummate choke artist. Leads league in one and dones in post season as well. Has a tendency to throw the game away, literally, via interceptions.
Peyton has a losing record in SBs, a losing record in the post season and loses to winning teams in the regular season (lost to 3 of the 4 winning AFC teams he played last year), while beating up on the dregs of the league. Meanwhile Brady is 18-8 in Post season (most wins ever in NFL History), has 3 SBs to boot and has the best winning percentage in NFL History post Otto Graham. And owners and GMs all want Brady as their number one QB. Pray tell, what do you see that they don't. Oh, I bet you actually believe the media when they tout Manning for best ever. Sorry, at best he is at the 7-8 slot while Brady battles it out for best ever with Montana (and Graham for the old timers).
The key is that Peyton has always had better receivers, better protection and played in a dome without any wind to affect his passes, or at altitude with a conditioning advantage. He should lead every stats category by an enormous amount but doesn't when one factors in years played. Brees (also a dome QB) will break all his career records and Brady (who plays in the windy NE with no name receivers and 61% more sacks is clipping at his heals. Like Jordan, it's only the uneducated in this generation that have been led to believe Peyton is at the top of the pecking order. It is financially beneficial for the NFL that you believe this. But it not true. He is very, very good and a top ten ever QB, but not in Montana or Brady's class. Peyton's 32% higher INT rate along knocks him out of the running and given that he had 32% more INTs with better receivers, better protection and no wind to affect his passes. You have got to be hypnotized by the media to think Peyton is in the same discussion with Brady.

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