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The 2-4 Raiders are six games into the season. Their wins have come over the Jaguars and Chargers and losses to the Colts , Redskins , Broncos , and Chiefs . Full Story
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“PLAY TO WIN”

Since: Jul 09

OG, "so cal."

#1 Oct 19, 2013
like i was saying, the schedule doesn't look so bad after all. "based on the way these other teams we have to face are playing. so it looks like we have a shot at winning most of those games right?
not so fast!
we don't have an offense! we don't have great schemes. we're still getting pushed around out there. terrelle pryor went from okay to decently good to good, to okay, to terribble! defense is doing really good and decently! so we may have a defense but we don't have an offense plain and simply put! those other teams are struggling but, they are struggling veterans! we're, struggling youth! there's a difference when it comes to push and shove and knowing your position. those teams are struggling cause they have their own problems. plus, they are struggling against other veteran teams. RAIDERS are struggling cause we are playing veteran teams with well experienced players even, if they are struggling! even if they have youth, they have veteran players for the most part. better said? we're still in trouble! even if we get some good players back from injury, we're in trouble. even if pryor gets back into football form, we're in trouble. so, i say, if we win one, we're lucky! it could be the giants but i doubt it! another against the chargers? i sort of doubt it! maybe the jets?, i doubt it! not the texans or the eagles. definitely not the broncos or the chefs or the titans or the cowboys! the steelers? NO! look, i know they are struggling, but we're struggling that much more and our (D) won't hold us up!
RAIDERS of 2013!!!

“PLAY TO WIN”

Since: Jul 09

OG, "so cal."

#2 Oct 19, 2013
as a matter of fact, our (D) is goint to start getting injured because of our (O)!
RAIDERS 2013!!!

“PLAY TO WIN”

Since: Jul 09

OG, "so cal."

#3 Oct 20, 2013
(H) vs steelers
(H) vs eagles
(@) giants
(@) texans
(H) tiitans
(@) cowboys
(@) jets
(H) chefs
(@) chargers
(H) broncos

RAIDERS 2013!!!

“PLAY TO WIN”

Since: Jul 09

OG, "so cal."

#4 Oct 20, 2013
RAIDER MISTERIO OG wrote:
(H) vs steelers
(H) vs eagles
(@) giants
(@) texans
(H) tiitans
(@) cowboys
(@) jets
(H) chefs
(@) chargers
(H) broncos
RAIDERS 2013!!!
a win against the eagles? the have a weak (D) and are struggling with their (qb's). all the other teams are still playing tough. yes i know, a win vs giants right? wrong! I can picture RAIDERS playing tough vs some or all of these teams. but wins? i mean, anything could happen? but? let's see how they do vs the steelers! rothlesburger has been sacked how many times? 19 or more this season?
RAIDERS 2013!!!
Perspicacious

Cypress, CA

#5 Oct 21, 2013
Trent Dilfer on ESPN seemed to support Colts owner Irsay's comments when Dilfer said "these Colts are philosophically built to win", suggesting that when Peyton had his way with the CAP heavy offense, the team wasn't balanced so Peyton could run up gaudy numbers at the expense of winning. Funny how things leak out in small pieces at first. Will continue to watch this story as it unfolds to see if the Manning friendly media will pull the plug or if the whining and demands Peyton made to beef up his offense while at Indy become more visible.
The offensive support Manning screamed for was so he could record mega numbers and be seen as the greatest of all-time which has always been Mannings goal. Let's hope he has finally figured out that it's a team game and him getting outrageous numbers is not the goal, but winning is. Reason why Irsay mentioned the Brady model as being superior to the Manning model. Teamwork first wins. Irsay has vowed to not make that mistake again. Let's hope Peyton has learned this lesson as well, otherwise he will crumble come postseason as is his trend and the result of all who chase stats vice victories.

Since: Jan 11

Tempe, AZ

#6 Oct 21, 2013
If you get your sources, and opinions from ESPN the best word to describe your thoughts is "dubious".
Perspicacious wrote:
Trent Dilfer on ESPN seemed to support Colts owner Irsay's comments when Dilfer said "these Colts are philosophically built to win", suggesting that when Peyton had his way with the CAP heavy offense, the team wasn't balanced so Peyton could run up gaudy numbers at the expense of winning. Funny how things leak out in small pieces at first. Will continue to watch this story as it unfolds to see if the Manning friendly media will pull the plug or if the whining and demands Peyton made to beef up his offense while at Indy become more visible.
The offensive support Manning screamed for was so he could record mega numbers and be seen as the greatest of all-time which has always been Mannings goal. Let's hope he has finally figured out that it's a team game and him getting outrageous numbers is not the goal, but winning is. Reason why Irsay mentioned the Brady model as being superior to the Manning model. Teamwork first wins. Irsay has vowed to not make that mistake again. Let's hope Peyton has learned this lesson as well, otherwise he will crumble come postseason as is his trend and the result of all who chase stats vice victories.
Perspicacious

Cypress, CA

#7 Oct 21, 2013
Corran Horn wrote:
If you get your sources, and opinions from ESPN the best word to describe your thoughts is "dubious".
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Concur that ESPN has their own agenda, but they let things slip out sometimes when they don't intend to. Again today they commented that Peyton knew this day was coming, referring to his return to Indy, and his response was that he thought about what how to answer the questions he would be getting.
Why does he need to think about it and plan his responses? Why not.....be honest.? And how could he know what the questions would be ahead of time unless they were fed him in advance.
Even after the loss last night Peyton said the game being over is a relief. A RELIEF!!! That's not an answer a competitor would give. A competitor would be angry they lost and not relieved the game was over. His response identifies a psychological shortfall in his makeup. It further reveals what has been leaking out is true. He doesn't have the mindset of a Montana or a Brady. Instead he is in it for personal gain and outrageous numbers to support his delusions of greatness. Manning has been programmed since his youth to be the greatest ever yet without the understanding that it's not a selfish push for career numbers that make you great, it's your drive to make the TEAM better. Manning is a little kid that never grew up and has neurological problems other than just in his neck. They stem a bit higher in his grey matter. Since Eli shows none of this abnormal makeup one can only think that Archie like most with multiple children got better at parenting with each successive attempt. Too bad he didn't learn sooner for Peyton's sake. Still someone needs to tell Peyton it's about the team and winning not self and gaudy numbers.

Since: Jan 11

Tempe, AZ

#8 Oct 21, 2013
IDK man, i don't care what Peyton acts like or doesn't. It's not related to football for me. As far as i am concerned Peyton is one of the best QB's of all time, and led the Colts to like 8 consecutive 10 win seasons. In my opinion they are one of the better franchises in the last 20 years and their run while P was there will be very difficult for another franchise to replicate. That much production, with almost no drop off for a very long time.

Irsay is kind of a tool, anyone willing to talk shit about a man who made you billions of dollars, won you a ring, bought you a new stadium and maybe ANYONE give a poop about some Shi*ty team like the Colts were deserves more than that. Deserves more than being given little rim jobs via the press years after they release him.
Perspicacious wrote:
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Concur that ESPN has their own agenda, but they let things slip out sometimes when they don't intend to. Again today they commented that Peyton knew this day was coming, referring to his return to Indy, and his response was that he thought about what how to answer the questions he would be getting.
Why does he need to think about it and plan his responses? Why not.....be honest.? And how could he know what the questions would be ahead of time unless they were fed him in advance.
Even after the loss last night Peyton said the game being over is a relief. A RELIEF!!! That's not an answer a competitor would give. A competitor would be angry they lost and not relieved the game was over. His response identifies a psychological shortfall in his makeup. It further reveals what has been leaking out is true. He doesn't have the mindset of a Montana or a Brady. Instead he is in it for personal gain and outrageous numbers to support his delusions of greatness. Manning has been programmed since his youth to be the greatest ever yet without the understanding that it's not a selfish push for career numbers that make you great, it's your drive to make the TEAM better. Manning is a little kid that never grew up and has neurological problems other than just in his neck. They stem a bit higher in his grey matter. Since Eli shows none of this abnormal makeup one can only think that Archie like most with multiple children got better at parenting with each successive attempt. Too bad he didn't learn sooner for Peyton's sake. Still someone needs to tell Peyton it's about the team and winning not self and gaudy numbers.
RaiderFaith

Apex, NC

#9 Oct 21, 2013
Agreed Irsay isn't giving enough praise to Peyton. That said I think his comments were brilliant and timed well. It took some of the focus off Luck and his need to fill Peyton's shoes . People were talking more about his comments allowing focus on Irsay to give luck a chance to breathe. As a owner, Gm or coach. Anytime you pull pressure off your team and afford them the chance to be less scrutinized. You are doing something right. Yes Peyton deserves more credit. But supporting his current squad has to come first.
Corran Horn wrote:
IDK man, i don't care what Peyton acts like or doesn't. It's not related to football for me. As far as i am concerned Peyton is one of the best QB's of all time, and led the Colts to like 8 consecutive 10 win seasons. In my opinion they are one of the better franchises in the last 20 years and their run while P was there will be very difficult for another franchise to replicate. That much production, with almost no drop off for a very long time.
Irsay is kind of a tool, anyone willing to talk shit about a man who made you billions of dollars, won you a ring, bought you a new stadium and maybe ANYONE give a poop about some Shi*ty team like the Colts were deserves more than that. Deserves more than being given little rim jobs via the press years after they release him.
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Copernicus

Cypress, CA

#10 Oct 22, 2013
RaiderFaith wrote:
Agreed Irsay isn't giving enough praise to Peyton. That said I think his comments were brilliant and timed well. It took some of the focus off Luck and his need to fill Peyton's shoes . People were talking more about his comments allowing focus on Irsay to give luck a chance to breathe. As a owner, Gm or coach. Anytime you pull pressure off your team and afford them the chance to be less scrutinized. You are doing something right. Yes Peyton deserves more credit. But supporting his current squad has to come first. <quoted text>
Concur Irsay did a good job taking pressure off his team, good job. But Irsay needs to learn how to speak more clearly and accurately. Even better would have been for Irsay to have had the balls to tell Peyton to shut up and just play QB instead of giving in to him when he whined until he got the offense he wanted. It was Irsays fault for going CAP heavy on offense instead of building a well rounded team despite Peyton's constant whining. It's the owners responsibility to build the team and not give into the players demands. Don't go blaming Peyton for your screwup. No one ever said you were to turn the decision making over to Peyton, that was your miscue. Colts may have beaten the Broncos but as I see it, it's Manning won, Irsay zero.

Since: Jan 11

Tempe, AZ

#11 Oct 22, 2013
That makes some sense. Wasn't thinking about it from that direction. I saw Irsay drunk as hell on EPSN last week mumbling through an interview and figured he just lost his mind, starting talking smack on old players.
RaiderFaith wrote:
Agreed Irsay isn't giving enough praise to Peyton. That said I think his comments were brilliant and timed well. It took some of the focus off Luck and his need to fill Peyton's shoes . People were talking more about his comments allowing focus on Irsay to give luck a chance to breathe. As a owner, Gm or coach. Anytime you pull pressure off your team and afford them the chance to be less scrutinized. You are doing something right. Yes Peyton deserves more credit. But supporting his current squad has to come first. <quoted text>
TNS

Cypress, CA

#12 Oct 22, 2013
Corran Horn wrote:
IDK man, i don't care what Peyton acts like or doesn't. It's not related to football for me. As far as i am concerned Peyton is one of the best QB's of all time, and led the Colts to like 8 consecutive 10 win seasons. In my opinion they are one of the better franchises in the last 20 years and their run while P was there will be very difficult for another franchise to replicate. That much production, with almost no drop off for a very long time.
Irsay is kind of a tool, anyone willing to talk shit about a man who made you billions of dollars, won you a ring, bought you a new stadium and maybe ANYONE give a poop about some Shi*ty team like the Colts were deserves more than that. Deserves more than being given little rim jobs via the press years after they release him.
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Question of value for you. Please choose from the following two events. Would you rather win $25 or $100 on a game show knowing that you would
Get $50 worth of product for $25 (end result is feeling good about yourself having doubled your value) OR
Get $75 worth of product for $100 (end result is feeling cheated having received less than what was perceived value)? Whatever your choice, it goes to value, actual value vs perceived value. The choices above give examples where perceived value is greater than actual value in one case and then actual value is greater than perceived value in the other. Irsay like many believes he got cheated by only getting one SB despite having the better resources and Peyton manipulated those resources into only one SB win and many early outs in the postseason.
End result is that Peyton's perceived value (what the media drowns us in) is far greater than his actual value (what he has accomplished for his team). Meanwhile, Graham, Brady, Starr, and Bradshaw (examples) have a much greater actual value than perceived value. Comprende?

Since: Jan 11

Tempe, AZ

#13 Oct 23, 2013
I see you point and can agree to an extent. But, by the logic of super bowl wins equating to more value would you rather have a 25 year old Dan Marino or a 25 year old Trent Dilfer on your roster if you were to build a team?

My point is that there are many support players and roles in every super bowl winning team. While the mantle of success rides more heavily on the QB than any other position, i don't agree SB wins are a direct manifestation of value, whether perceived or actual.
TNS wrote:
<quoted text>
Question of value for you. Please choose from the following two events. Would you rather win $25 or $100 on a game show knowing that you would
Get $50 worth of product for $25 (end result is feeling good about yourself having doubled your value) OR
Get $75 worth of product for $100 (end result is feeling cheated having received less than what was perceived value)? Whatever your choice, it goes to value, actual value vs perceived value. The choices above give examples where perceived value is greater than actual value in one case and then actual value is greater than perceived value in the other. Irsay like many believes he got cheated by only getting one SB despite having the better resources and Peyton manipulated those resources into only one SB win and many early outs in the postseason.
End result is that Peyton's perceived value (what the media drowns us in) is far greater than his actual value (what he has accomplished for his team). Meanwhile, Graham, Brady, Starr, and Bradshaw (examples) have a much greater actual value than perceived value. Comprende?
Flynnished

United States

#14 Oct 24, 2013
Perspicacious wrote:
Trent Dilfer on ESPN seemed to support Colts owner Irsay's comments when Dilfer said "these Colts are philosophically built to win", suggesting that when Peyton had his way with the CAP heavy offense, the team wasn't balanced so Peyton could run up gaudy numbers at the expense of winning. Funny how things leak out in small pieces at first. Will continue to watch this story as it unfolds to see if the Manning friendly media will pull the plug or if the whining and demands Peyton made to beef up his offense while at Indy become more visible.
The offensive support Manning screamed for was so he could record mega numbers and be seen as the greatest of all-time which has always been Mannings goal. Let's hope he has finally figured out that it's a team game and him getting outrageous numbers is not the goal, but winning is. Reason why Irsay mentioned the Brady model as being superior to the Manning model. Teamwork first wins. Irsay has vowed to not make that mistake again. Let's hope Peyton has learned this lesson as well, otherwise he will crumble come postseason as is his trend and the result of all who chase stats vice victories.
This is some of the dumbest crap I have read from you yet...Manning only cares about his stats...

"the Brady model as being superior"...more like Brady was superior right up to the point Belicheat got busted for filming team walk throughs....

Why does Brady act like a little bitch on the sidelines when he loses...maybe that's why Belichickshit cheated with spy cameras, so he didn't have to lose much and listen to Brady pout like the walking vag he is....

Interesting, how many Super Bowls has Brady been back to since Spygate...."he will crumble come postseason"....again....
Janitor

Cypress, CA

#15 Oct 26, 2013
Flynnished wrote:
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This is some of the dumbest crap I have read from you yet...Manning only cares about his stats...
"the Brady model as being superior"...more like Brady was superior right up to the point Belicheat got busted for filming team walk throughs....
Why does Brady act like a little bitch on the sidelines when he loses...maybe that's why Belichickshit cheated with spy cameras, so he didn't have to lose much and listen to Brady pout like the walking vag he is....
Interesting, how many Super Bowls has Brady been back to since Spygate...."he will crumble come postseason"....again....
You must have missed it, Brady has been back to two SBs since spygate. Were it not for a miraculous TE helmet catch or an Assante Samuel INT drop in the first game and a Welker drop in the second, Brady would have had two more rings. His wife hit the nail on the head. He can't be expected to catch the passes as well. Had Belichick gotten some halfway decend receivers, Pats would be doing much better than Brady can do with wannabe receivers with limited pass catching skills. Way to go Bill. How does Belichick spell genius, BRADYEIEIO
Spielmans Tards

United States

#17 Oct 28, 2013
Janitor wrote:
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You must have missed it, Brady has been back to two SBs since spygate.
Wrong....you tard...

Patriots back to back 04-05...

Spygate was 2007...

You must have missed it....
Flynnished

United States

#18 Oct 28, 2013
Janitor wrote:
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You must have missed it, Brady has been back to two SBs since spygate. Were it not for a miraculous TE helmet catch or an Assante Samuel INT drop in the first game and a Welker drop in the second, Brady would have had two more rings. His wife hit the nail on the head. He can't be expected to catch the passes as well. Had Belichick gotten some halfway decend receivers, Pats would be doing much better than Brady can do with wannabe receivers with limited pass catching skills. Way to go Bill. How does Belichick spell genius, BRADYEIEIO
How many has he won since Spygate...zero... must not be able to win without filming team walk throughs...

Since: Jan 11

Tempe, AZ

#19 Oct 28, 2013
Let's get down to brass tacks here. The real issue with the Patriots inability to win super bowls. Bellicheck developed an irregular heartbeat in the mid 2000's. When they were slogging along, playing great defense running the ball with Corey Dillon, Tom Brady was a role player. Making 10 good throws a game and a bunch of OK ones to old recievers.

Then, Bellicheck took one too many viagra to get himself all revved up for Tommy boy's tight little b-hole and he weakened his aortic wall.

Ol Billy' B thought he could revitalize his sexual imagination with another tighty whitey boy toy named Welker, then A lanky man sandwich names Moss. But nothing was ever the same. Bellicheck, like the Patriots, tried everything, but just couldn't pull it out. They fell flat, and flaccid. Youth spent and still dissatisfied.
Janitor

Cypress, CA

#20 Oct 31, 2013
Spielmans Tards wrote:
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Wrong....you tard...
Patriots back to back 04-05...
Spygate was 2007...
You must have missed it....
Re-read what you wrote. You may have meant something different than what you wrote but your words are clear. You said ...how many SB has Brady been back to... The answer is two. 2007 and 2011. Spy gate hit in the off season after 2006 before 2007 started. You really did miss it and not once but twice now. Care for a third miss?
Belicheat

Katy, TX

#21 Oct 31, 2013
0-2. Cameras required. Or will they care for a third loss?

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