Raiders' Allen May Appear Much Smarte...

Raiders' Allen May Appear Much Smarter in 2013

There are 27 comments on the NBC Bay Area story from Jul 18, 2013, titled Raiders' Allen May Appear Much Smarter in 2013. In it, NBC Bay Area reports that:

Raiders head coach Dennis Allen gets a second chance to show what he can do in 2013.

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“PLAY TO WIN”

Since: Jul 09

" I DA HO " !

#1 Jul 18, 2013
i really don't blame dennis allen much for his first season. it wasn't his fault so much was going on in the organization with changes. he seem to have a team put together that will give him a chance to show this time around what he's capable of as far as coaching. plus, he got his feet wet and now has coaching experience. so, that said, this 2013 season he better give some sort of higher level of coaching with authority cause the crowd will be watching. i believe he will still be here in 2014. pending on how much he shows this season. the team is still new so that should give him a break this 2013 season. maybe he can have a great season just based on his coaching authority. he may have just learned something!
RAIDERS 2013!!!

“PLAY TO WIN”

Since: Jul 09

" I DA HO " !

#2 Jul 18, 2013
he will have better support from his new assistant coaches and great support from his now veteran defensive coach plus the players that were added defensively. he should be fine this season. just, not great. but it's understandable.
RAIDERS 2013!!!

“PLAY TO WIN”

Since: Jul 09

" I DA HO " !

#3 Jul 18, 2013
"RAIDERS dennis allen may appear much marter in 2013"
nahh, we could still see his face!(LOL), i have to say he looks a llittle nurdy! kind of like kiffin, kind of like jason tarver. now i know it has nothing to do with the way they coach but just pointing out the look. maybe thats why they don't get much respect?
RAIDERS 2013!!!
RaiderFaith

Benson, NC

#4 Jul 18, 2013
This year will be a weeding out year. All the question marks picked up this off season. Next season will be the real proving ground.

“PLAY TO WIN”

Since: Jul 09

" I DA HO " !

#5 Jul 18, 2013
RaiderFaith wrote:
This year will be a weeding out year. All the question marks picked up this off season. Next season will be the real proving ground.
i agree 100%. i expect that much better next season. cause this season's new team will transition to next year's familiar to each other team and will be that much better with each other with only few changes. "normal few changes". not "another clean up". i look forward to what this team has to offer this season but reality is that next season will probably look that much better for the RAIDERS. that said, it should work the same for d allen. hope allen really turn it up a few notches. it would suck if we had another coaching change. but then again. if the coach don't put out, he's got to get out!
RAIDERS of 2013!!!

Since: Jan 11

Phoenix, AZ

#6 Jul 19, 2013
Simply put, Knapp should have been fired after week 2 and the ZBS should never had been adopted. That's a failure on McKenzie's part.

“RaiderNation of Domination”

Since: May 07

Some West Texas County

#7 Jul 19, 2013
This year we should find out just how real Allen is. I expect improvement more than anything.

“PLAY TO WIN”

Since: Jul 09

" I DA HO " !

#8 Jul 20, 2013
dennis allen needs to pratice the "chucky" look"! supposedly he has a military type of attitude already. but his kiffin look is not helping his cause.
my advise, try the gruden attitude! he will get accepted right away. he needs authority in his coaching. he has to get respect cause right now?, he has none! same goes for mckenzie. he can't just be talking and mumbling soft within his lips. walking around like a dog with his tail between his legs? i mean really, we look like we have a bunch of soft coaches and gm and owner! players look that way too! nobody fits the RAIDER image! nobody takes the RAIDERS serious. it's to quiet around the RAIDER org.! frustrating!
RAIDERS 2013!!!!
The Autumn Wind

Fairfield, CA

#9 Jul 20, 2013
RAIDER MISTERIO OG wrote:
dennis allen needs to pratice the "chucky" look"! supposedly he has a military type of attitude already. but his kiffin look is not helping his cause.
my advise, try the gruden attitude! he will get accepted right away. he needs authority in his coaching. he has to get respect cause right now?, he has none! same goes for mckenzie. he can't just be talking and mumbling soft within his lips. walking around like a dog with his tail between his legs? i mean really, we look like we have a bunch of soft coaches and gm and owner! players look that way too! nobody fits the RAIDER image! nobody takes the RAIDERS serious. it's to quiet around the RAIDER org.! frustrating!
RAIDERS 2013!!!!
As long as we win,they can be cockeyed on the sideline!!

“PLAY TO WIN”

Since: Jul 09

" I DA HO " !

#10 Jul 21, 2013
The Autumn Wind wrote:
<quoted text>As long as we win,they can be cockeyed on the sideline!!
so true, they're a bunch of ugly mutha's (lol), but without character. "as long as they win" hasn't come through. so, i hope they bring it out and try a different tactic OR approach this season. allen just might, he's been given another season. i bet he yells more with attitude this season!? i think he may be practicing in the mirror. i bet his wife told him,(man up ..ssy boy) if you want to win!
it's possible. ya never know!
(lol)
RAIDERS OF 2013!!!
The Autumn Wind

Fairfield, CA

#11 Jul 21, 2013
RAIDER MISTERIO OG wrote:
<quoted text>so true, they're a bunch of ugly mutha's (lol), but without character. "as long as they win" hasn't come through. so, i hope they bring it out and try a different tactic OR approach this season. allen just might, he's been given another season. i bet he yells more with attitude this season!? i think he may be practicing in the mirror. i bet his wife told him,(man up ..ssy boy) if you want to win!
it's possible. ya never know!
(lol)
RAIDERS OF 2013!!!
LOL!! That's like the e40 song practice looking hard!!
Derek

Anaheim, CA

#12 Jul 21, 2013
DA is an unqualified loser plan and simple. The Raiders will remain garbage until they get a real HC.
The Autumn Wind

Fairfield, CA

#13 Jul 21, 2013
Derek wrote:
DA is an unqualified loser plan and simple. The Raiders will remain garbage until they get a real HC.
What makes him unqualified and and a loser? State your facts!
Derek

Anaheim, CA

#14 Jul 21, 2013
The Autumn Wind wrote:
<quoted text>What makes him unqualified and and a loser? State your facts!
I'm not the only one ! He (DA) took over an 8-8 team and made them much worse. They were worse in every possible way and he showed a lack of ability to coach.

www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap1000000208735 NFL.com coach rankings

32) Dennis Allen, Oakland Raiders
Someone has to hold down the cellar spot. Allen earns the dubious distinction after a miserable 2012 season in Oakland. Was it Allen's fault? Not necessarily, as the roster he inherited wasn't exactly the 1976 Raiders. Then again, neither was the Colts' roster, and look what Chuck Pagano and Bruce Arians accomplished in Indy. Allen's area of expertise is on the defensive side of the ball, so it was especially disconcerting to see Oakland allow 27.7 points per game last year, Case closed.
Derek

Anaheim, CA

#15 Jul 21, 2013
The Autumn Wind wrote:
<quoted text>What makes him unqualified and and a loser? State your facts!
Implementing his system vs. coaching to the strength of his players. He was out coach weekly. No back-up long snapper week 1 which cost him his first game. Sticking with Knapp and his failed systems until the season was lost. Starting Leinert over Pryor. Failing to make half time adjustment. Terrible assistant coach selections. Players quitting on him almost immediately. Failing to properly use and/or misusing his tools as in players.

Since: Jan 11

Phoenix, AZ

#16 Jul 22, 2013
I think you make some decent points here. Nothing too new to this forum, but you have some solid points. One where i will disagree with you though is when you liken the Colts of last year to us. Reggie Wayne is a HOF and Andrew Luck is a STUD. Sure, those guys did a great job of coaching up a team who really over-performed past their talent levels, and we def. under-performed as a team, but i don't think you can compare the rosters too evenly.

Agreed about the defense though. I thought Allen and the "Mad Scientist" would overall improve our D, and there were certainly glimmers throughout the season, but overall we were bad on D. But, it's not like we have too much on the defensive side of the ball to work with though.

All in all, i think Allen will show a bit more of what he is made of this year. Maybe it will be the same disappointment(i hope not!) but i don't think he has quite shown us what he can or can't do quite yet.
Derek wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not the only one ! He (DA) took over an 8-8 team and made them much worse. They were worse in every possible way and he showed a lack of ability to coach.
www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap1000000208735 NFL.com coach rankings
32) Dennis Allen, Oakland Raiders
Someone has to hold down the cellar spot. Allen earns the dubious distinction after a miserable 2012 season in Oakland. Was it Allen's fault? Not necessarily, as the roster he inherited wasn't exactly the 1976 Raiders. Then again, neither was the Colts' roster, and look what Chuck Pagano and Bruce Arians accomplished in Indy. Allen's area of expertise is on the defensive side of the ball, so it was especially disconcerting to see Oakland allow 27.7 points per game last year, Case closed.
RaiderFaith

Benson, NC

#17 Jul 22, 2013
Most teams don't keep a back up long snapper. It is extremely rare the long snapper gets hurt. So that point is invalid. Sticking with knaap was definitely a mistake. But my question is, how much of that was his decision and how much was RM and MD's? We may never know that.Starting Leinhart over Pryor? Where you at all the practices? In all the meetings? Leinhart was the back up for a reason . Same reason Raiders went and got Flynn. Because Pryor isn't showing he has what it takes. Now if Pryor shows he has it...start him. But to say it was a mistake is ludacris. You have to go with what you know and what they have shown. I agree adjustments at half time was an issue. And poor assistant coaches played into it. But changes there have been made and hopefully the right changes.what players quit on him immediately? Misusing talent was an issue, hopefully that changes with new assistants brought in. Bottom line is some points are valid...some not. Let's just hope we move in the right direction. Not this season but next season will be the tell tale.
Derek wrote:
<quoted text>
Implementing his system vs. coaching to the strength of his players. He was out coach weekly. No back-up long snapper week 1 which cost him his first game. Sticking with Knapp and his failed systems until the season was lost. Starting Leinert over Pryor. Failing to make half time adjustment. Terrible assistant coach selections. Players quitting on him almost immediately. Failing to properly use and/or misusing his tools as in players.

“PLAY TO WIN”

Since: Jul 09

" I DA HO " !

#18 Jul 22, 2013
yea, while i haven't been to high on dennis allen and his decisions, i would prefer to have a different coach but sometimes we have to roll with the punches and well, i just hope to see improvement. but it will be difficult for great improvement with a new team and scheme to him "again". in other words, he hasn't really had time to settle. but his leadership hasn't been great either. the only hope is that he improved.
THE SEASON IS GETTING CLOSER so now just hope he does great and has a team well put together where we can really have more input on him. we will, after this season!
RAIDERS 2013!!!
Historian

Anaheim, CA

#19 Jul 22, 2013
RaiderFaith wrote:
Most teams don't keep a back up long snapper. It is extremely rare the long snapper gets hurt. So that point is invalid. Sticking with knaap was definitely a mistake. But my question is, how much of that was his decision and how much was RM and MD's? We may never know that.Starting Leinhart over Pryor? Where you at all the practices? In all the meetings? Leinhart was the back up for a reason . Same reason Raiders went and got Flynn. Because Pryor isn't showing he has what it takes. Now if Pryor shows he has it...start him. But to say it was a mistake is ludacris. You have to go with what you know and what they have shown. I agree adjustments at half time was an issue. And poor assistant coaches played into it. But changes there have been made and hopefully the right changes.what players quit on him immediately? Misusing talent was an issue, hopefully that changes with new assistants brought in. Bottom line is some points are valid...some not. Let's just hope we move in the right direction. Not this season but next season will be the tell tale. <quoted text>
Did you see the difference in performance between Leinert and Pryor. Leinert is a proven loser, while Pryor is and was a huge question mark. In a totally lost season, only an unqualified moron would refuse to play the intriguing Pryor over to proven bust Leinert. Once the season was lost a wise coach would have used the remainder of the season to see who and what he had on the roster. What happened to evaluating potential. On another note Denvers defense improved GREATLY once Allen was replaced. They were 20th ranked under Allen.
Historian

Anaheim, CA

#20 Jul 22, 2013
RaiderFaith wrote:
Most teams don't keep a back up long snapper. It is extremely rare the long snapper gets hurt. So that point is invalid. Sticking with knaap was definitely a mistake. But my question is, how much of that was his decision and how much was RM and MD's? We may never know that.Starting Leinhart over Pryor? Where you at all the practices? In all the meetings? Leinhart was the back up for a reason . Same reason Raiders went and got Flynn. Because Pryor isn't showing he has what it takes. Now if Pryor shows he has it...start him. But to say it was a mistake is ludacris. You have to go with what you know and what they have shown. I agree adjustments at half time was an issue. And poor assistant coaches played into it. But changes there have been made and hopefully the right changes.what players quit on him immediately? Misusing talent was an issue, hopefully that changes with new assistants brought in. Bottom line is some points are valid...some not. Let's just hope we move in the right direction. Not this season but next season will be the tell tale. <quoted text>
Pryor outplayed Flynn in OTA's. Raider beat writers indicated Flynn inaccurate and didn't show much arm strength. Flynn is a noodled arm career backup. Another one of Spots McKenzies GB rejects.

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