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GBPmies

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#21 Jun 13, 2012
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>I wouldnt be surprised at all if the Vikes made the playoffs this year.3-13 was painful but at the same time we gained some experience.Were allot younger and allot faster than we were.The gap is closing.Who do you have thats better than Jared Allen or Peterson?22 sacks.LOL.The Pack has to face Jared Allen and Brian Robison,Peppers and Urlacher and Suh And Farley.I hope youre oline holds up.LOL
I asked for one of your detailed analysis of how you think the 3-13 Vikings are going to give the 15-1 Packers ‘a run for their money’ as you put it.

They 'got younger' and ´gained experience' and 'are faster'. Did they bring in some super-duper fast rookies with lots of NFL experience? HOW?! LOL! Are they any better at playing football? Because they weren’t good last year. Where have the Packers slipped up? How will they be worse as a team?

If you are not surprised if the Vikings make the playoffs next year you are the only one. I think you have a lot of wishful thinking going on but I am willing to listen if you have some good thoughts about how they will give the Packers 'a run for their money'. I think the Lions and Bears are much closer to giving such a statement.
As for facing all those players you mentioned... didn't the Packers face them last year? You do know the Packers swept the NFC North last right? I know they are good players but it isn’t anything new.

Realistically I can say I would be surprised if the Packers go 15-1 again, that is a really hard to do. But I fully expect them in the playoffs. I fully DO NOT expect to see the Vikings there this year.

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#22 Jun 13, 2012
GBPmies wrote:
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I asked for one of your detailed analysis of how you think the 3-13 Vikings are going to give the 15-1 Packers ‘a run for their money’ as you put it.
They 'got younger' and ´gained experience' and 'are faster'. Did they bring in some super-duper fast rookies with lots of NFL experience? HOW?! LOL! Are they any better at playing football? Because they weren’t good last year. Where have the Packers slipped up? How will they be worse as a team?
If you are not surprised if the Vikings make the playoffs next year you are the only one. I think you have a lot of wishful thinking going on but I am willing to listen if you have some good thoughts about how they will give the Packers 'a run for their money'. I think the Lions and Bears are much closer to giving such a statement.
As for facing all those players you mentioned... didn't the Packers face them last year? You do know the Packers swept the NFC North last right? I know they are good players but it isn’t anything new.
Realistically I can say I would be surprised if the Packers go 15-1 again, that is a really hard to do. But I fully expect them in the playoffs. I fully DO NOT expect to see the Vikings there this year.
One of my reasons for optimism is of all the games we lost last year 13of them were by less than ten points and most were by 7 or less.Sure the Packers dominated us in one game but the other was only by 6 points.And the Packers got dominated by the Giants so you cant tell me that one game makes the team.Were far better than we were then.For one we have cornerback Antoine Winfield and Chris Cook back who we didnt have most of the year last year,we have first round safety Harrison Smith and 3rd round cornerback Josh Robinson as well as possibly Chris Carr or whoever else makes the team so theres no way we arent going to be better than the bunch we had last year.Everyone knows we had the most points allowed which just happens to be the Packers strength.We have Kyle Rudolph and newly signed John Carlson at tightend so we should be good there,Last year our recievers were pretty much Michael Jenkins,Percy Harvin,and Devin Aromashodu and we didnt even have Jenkins all year.This year is different,we finally have the two bigger outside recievers in Jerome Simpson and Greg Childs.Thats what weve really needed.We also have Jarius Wright to compliment Harvin so I dont see how we could be worse there.Oh and Stephen Burton has really been looking good to.And the final piece is Matt Kalil at left tackle.Charlie Johnson is a good player but he doesnt have the long arms that Kalil does.So our oline is going to be better.And regardless of who is at right guard they have all played before.So if we were so close to winning those games last year I dont see why we wouldnt win allot of them this year.

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#23 Jun 13, 2012
I meant ten of the games were by 10 points or less not 13.we actually won 3.lol
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#24 Jun 14, 2012
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>So if we were so close to winning those games last year I dont see why we wouldnt win allot of them this year.
Maybe the same reason the Vikings lost 13 games last season. In the NFL close doesn't count.
GBPmies

Finland

#25 Jun 14, 2012
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>One of my reasons for optimism is of all the games we lost last year 13of them were by less than ten points and most were by 7 or less.Sure the Packers dominated us in one game but the other was only by 6 points.And the Packers got dominated by the Giants so you cant tell me that one game makes the team.Were far better than we were then.For one we have cornerback Antoine Winfield and Chris Cook back who we didnt have most of the year last year,we have first round safety Harrison Smith and 3rd round cornerback Josh Robinson as well as possibly Chris Carr or whoever else makes the team so theres no way we arent going to be better than the bunch we had last year.Everyone knows we had the most points allowed which just happens to be the Packers strength.We have Kyle Rudolph and newly signed John Carlson at tightend so we should be good there,Last year our recievers were pretty much Michael Jenkins,Percy Harvin,and Devin Aromashodu and we didnt even have Jenkins all year.This year is different,we finally have the two bigger outside recievers in Jerome Simpson and Greg Childs.Thats what weve really needed.We also have Jarius Wright to compliment Harvin so I dont see how we could be worse there.Oh and Stephen Burton has really been looking good to.And the final piece is Matt Kalil at left tackle.Charlie Johnson is a good player but he doesnt have the long arms that Kalil does.So our oline is going to be better.And regardless of who is at right guard they have all played before.So if we were so close to winning those games last year I dont see why we wouldnt win allot of them this year.
Thanks PB for the extra effort, they sure have added some piece but it is yet to be seen if they fit or are any good. I question both Winfield and Cook in coverage; actually I question the entire DB group. Greenway is a great LB but that is it there. Dline is pretty good but can be up and down. Not getting any younger.

Offensively I see some improvement on paper, defensively I do not see enough.
There seems to be a lot of ‘ifs’ on the team.

If the Vikings are going to make a major turnaround and make the playoffs in 2012 all of these things you mentioned will need to happen and more. You didn’t even touch on Ponder, nobody has seen this Oline play well in the past, does Kalil shore up that issue? He is a rookie and he will probably take some lumps I think, especially on our division LT is a tough spot to be. I see the Vikings improving record wise but I do not see 7-9 making the playoffs. How many wins are you thinking it will take to get into the playoffs this year?

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#26 Jun 18, 2012
GBPmies wrote:
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Thanks PB for the extra effort, they sure have added some piece but it is yet to be seen if they fit or are any good. I question both Winfield and Cook in coverage; actually I question the entire DB group. Greenway is a great LB but that is it there. Dline is pretty good but can be up and down. Not getting any younger.
Offensively I see some improvement on paper, defensively I do not see enough.
There seems to be a lot of ‘ifs’ on the team.
If the Vikings are going to make a major turnaround and make the playoffs in 2012 all of these things you mentioned will need to happen and more. You didn’t even touch on Ponder, nobody has seen this Oline play well in the past, does Kalil shore up that issue? He is a rookie and he will probably take some lumps I think, especially on our division LT is a tough spot to be. I see the Vikings improving record wise but I do not see 7-9 making the playoffs. How many wins are you thinking it will take to get into the playoffs this year?
The Packers face allot of uncertantities and ifs with their rookies on defense too.As well as at running back.I dont think the Packers are the only team that can draft players and put them into action right away.Im not saying were going to make the playoffs ..just that its possible.Were not the piece of crap that everyone thinks and you can just come and beat.Ponder did pretty good last year considering who he had to throw too.Id say its possible to get the wildcard with 8 or 9 wins.We have allot of rookies that are into their second and third years.At this time we still have 9 of our ten draft picks from last year.That and the veterans we do have are talented.Were not all first year rookies.Childress really buried this team cause we should have drafted some wide recievers two or three years ago.Were not an entirely rebuilding team.
GBPmies

Finland

#27 Jun 18, 2012
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>The Packers face allot of uncertantities and ifs with their rookies on defense too.As well as at running back.I dont think the Packers are the only team that can draft players and put them into action right away.Im not saying were going to make the playoffs ..just that its possible.Were not the piece of crap that everyone thinks and you can just come and beat.Ponder did pretty good last year considering who he had to throw too.Id say its possible to get the wildcard with 8 or 9 wins.We have allot of rookies that are into their second and third years.At this time we still have 9 of our ten draft picks from last year.That and the veterans we do have are talented.Were not all first year rookies.Childress really buried this team cause we should have drafted some wide recievers two or three years ago.Were not an entirely rebuilding team.
Sure the Packers face some ‘ifs’ with their rookies on Defence. I hope Perry and Worthy can improve the pass rush. I am not sure we need all of the other rookies to make gigantic contributions this year. They have potential to but I wouldn’t say it is do or die. I think the Defence for the Packers needs to improve as whole not just add rookies to beef it up. They all got embarrassed last year and hopefully a full offseason will help some of the younger players get back on the right track. I am not overly concerned about the Packers D but I guess you can say slightly nervous since they didn’t prove anything last year. The Packers offence I am not concerned about I be they have a top 5 scoring offence this year, even without a RB like last year.

I see your points about the Vikings. I do not agree with you but I see you points and like to see a Viking fan that has faith in his team, good for you. Many Vikings I know fans do not see them as a contender yet this year. Most are optimistic for improvement though. I still see way to many holes and things the Vikings have not done well. I am not even sure what they do well, what are their strengths that make you see them in the playoffs? 8-8 or 9-7 probably will not get you into the playoffs as a wild card, more often then not you will need at least 10 wins and sometimes that isn’t even enough. Maybe if the Vikings played in a weak division but I suspect the Packers, Lions, and Bears will all be quite tough this year. I think the Vikes could go 8-8 but I think both the Bears and Lions will be better then that, so that right there eliminates the Vikings chances of making the playoffs since the Packers will be winning the NFC North again :)
best of luck to ya!

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#28 Jun 19, 2012
GBPmies wrote:
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Sure the Packers face some ‘ifs’ with their rookies on Defence. I hope Perry and Worthy can improve the pass rush. I am not sure we need all of the other rookies to make gigantic contributions this year. They have potential to but I wouldn’t say it is do or die. I think the Defence for the Packers needs to improve as whole not just add rookies to beef it up. They all got embarrassed last year and hopefully a full offseason will help some of the younger players get back on the right track. I am not overly concerned about the Packers D but I guess you can say slightly nervous since they didn’t prove anything last year. The Packers offence I am not concerned about I be they have a top 5 scoring offence this year, even without a RB like last year.
I see your points about the Vikings. I do not agree with you but I see you points and like to see a Viking fan that has faith in his team, good for you. Many Vikings I know fans do not see them as a contender yet this year. Most are optimistic for improvement though. I still see way to many holes and things the Vikings have not done well. I am not even sure what they do well, what are their strengths that make you see them in the playoffs? 8-8 or 9-7 probably will not get you into the playoffs as a wild card, more often then not you will need at least 10 wins and sometimes that isn’t even enough. Maybe if the Vikings played in a weak division but I suspect the Packers, Lions, and Bears will all be quite tough this year. I think the Vikes could go 8-8 but I think both the Bears and Lions will be better then that, so that right there eliminates the Vikings chances of making the playoffs since the Packers will be winning the NFC North again :)
best of luck to ya!
I understand where youre coming from too.In 2010 after making it to the championship game we thought for sure we would just pick up where we left off and go the championship again.We all know that didnt happen.The same exact team pretty much minus Sidney Rice.So I understand youre optimism.My question to you is..I dont know if youve noticed that the Lions,Bears and Vikings all drafted cornerbacks,safeties and linebackers.Everyone is aware of the Packers firepower.Do you ever have any fears that youre passing game might not be as effective?
GBPmies

Finland

#29 Jun 19, 2012
Well no that doesn’t concern me about them all drafting DBs, they still need to develop them. It is tough for rookie DBs to come in and have a lot of success. The Packers drafted OLB, 2Dline 2 DBs, in the first 4 rounds. Does that concern anyone that the Packers defense is gong to be sooo much better? IF so does that balance things a bit? The Packers pass defense was horrible and got abused and heard they might even be playing more dime this year but do not hope to see 6 rookies on the field.

I also think the Packers passing will get even better, they have another year playing together and remember they are quite young still. Nelson will move around more and get more focus, Cobb was a rookie 2nd round pick last year he didn’t get many snaps last year but many think he is in line for much more playing time with his playmaking skills, we are also still waiting for Finley to reach is full potential. I think the Packers still have the upper hand no matter who the NFC North drafted. At least for this year I don’t think they closed the gap. I hope those rookies the North drafted get to come in and play a lot of minutes vs the Packers WRs :)
eric

Marshfield, WI

#30 Jun 19, 2012
packluv1 wrote:
<quoted text> Hey Eric Brandon Marshall will be easy to cover? LOL Did the pack find a back-up QB or a running back yet?
re read my post,i said it would make it easier to cover Brandon Marshall and yes,a better passrush would put more pressure and less time on Cutler to throw,thus making it less time to cover BM and if we throw T.Williams on Marshall that would be a battle.In a pass happy league,GB didnt exactly have a rushing attack last year and won 15 games and it wasnt their offense that cost them and they made some nice moves to improve the defense,so what you have is one of the best offenses in the NFL hands down and an improved D.Worry about your oline protecting Cutler and keeping him upright and with as little hits as possible.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#31 Jun 19, 2012
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>The Packers face allot of uncertantities and ifs with their rookies on defense too.
Wouldn't you love it if the Vikings had the luxury of only worrying about uncertainties? The Vikings have the certanties of being a 3-13 team with a young QB, a poor O-line and poor secondary. On top of that they have the certainty of their best player having a serious injury to come back from. "Uncertainties" sound pretty darn good to me.

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#32 Jun 19, 2012
eric wrote:
<quoted text>re read my post,i said it would make it easier to cover Brandon Marshall and yes,a better passrush would put more pressure and less time on Cutler to throw,thus making it less time to cover BM and if we throw T.Williams on Marshall that would be a battle.In a pass happy league,GB didnt exactly have a rushing attack last year and won 15 games and it wasnt their offense that cost them and they made some nice moves to improve the defense,so what you have is one of the best offenses in the NFL hands down and an improved D.Worry about your oline protecting Cutler and keeping him upright and with as little hits as possible.
We have a running game and killer wide-outs now. I'ts going to make defenses make some choices.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#33 Jun 19, 2012
Killer wide outs? WHO? Brandon Marshall and ?.I do agree with a running game to a point.You must sign Forte or trade for a back of near value

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#34 Jun 19, 2012
GBPfan wrote:
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Wouldn't you love it if the Vikings had the luxury of only worrying about uncertainties? The Vikings have the certanties of being a 3-13 team with a young QB, a poor O-line and poor secondary. On top of that they have the certainty of their best player having a serious injury to come back from. "Uncertainties" sound pretty darn good to me.
Were not going to be a 3-13 team this year.Im not really all that worried about Ponder.Hes an intelligent guy.Im excited to see how it turns out.I dont think our o line will be half bad.The secondary will be the most improved of anything cause it dont get worse than last year.Peterson will probably never be the same but we still have Gerhart and even if Peterson is 75-80 percent youll still have to guard against him.The Packers have plenty to worry about with Starks often injured and Green coming off an acl of his own.Then you have Saine.The Packers secondary is questionable with the release of Nick Collins,Tramon Williams coming back from a nerve injury,Woodsen is 35.And then probably youre biggest concern,and no Im not hoping for it,just stating facts,if Rodgers were to go down the entire season could be lost.Even if the Packers get Colt Mccoy.In the Vikings case if Ponder goes down we have Webb.So I wouldnt say you have nothing to worry about.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#35 Jun 19, 2012
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>Were not going to be a 3-13 team this year.Im not really all that worried about Ponder.Hes an intelligent guy.Im excited to see how it turns out.I dont think our o line will be half bad.The secondary will be the most improved of anything cause it dont get worse than last year.Peterson will probably never be the same but we still have Gerhart and even if Peterson is 75-80 percent youll still have to guard against him.The Packers have plenty to worry about with Starks often injured and Green coming off an acl of his own.Then you have Saine.The Packers secondary is questionable with the release of Nick Collins,Tramon Williams coming back from a nerve injury,Woodsen is 35.And then probably youre biggest concern,and no Im not hoping for it,just stating facts,if Rodgers were to go down the entire season could be lost.Even if the Packers get Colt Mccoy.In the Vikings case if Ponder goes down we have Webb.So I wouldnt say you have nothing to worry about.
Every team has things to worry about. I'll take the "uncertainties" associated with a 15-1 team versus the "certainties" of a 3-13 team any and every day.

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#36 Jun 19, 2012
GBPfan wrote:
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Every team has things to worry about. I'll take the "uncertainties" associated with a 15-1 team versus the "certainties" of a 3-13 team any and every day.
Well good luck to you.I just wouldnt take it for granted that youre a shoe in to win the division.Allot can happen in the nfl in a year.You lose a couple games you thought you would win.You lose one player and suddenly the teams not the same.The Packers start out with a pretty tough schedule.The 49ers,Seahawks,Saints,Bears and Texans.You dont play the Vikes till late in the year and by then we could be pretty tuned in.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#37 Jun 19, 2012
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>Well good luck to you.I just wouldnt take it for granted that youre a shoe in to win the division.Allot can happen in the nfl in a year.You lose a couple games you thought you would win.You lose one player and suddenly the teams not the same.The Packers start out with a pretty tough schedule.The 49ers,Seahawks,Saints,Bears and Texans.You dont play the Vikes till late in the year and by then we could be pretty tuned in.
Now Harvin is voicing his frustration with the Vikings. Hmmm. Another certainty! As I said, I'll take the uncertainty of a 15-1 team rather than the certainties that come with a 3-13 team. Good luck to you. You need it a lot more than me.
Jeremy

Mooreton, ND

#38 Jun 19, 2012
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>Were not going to be a 3-13 team this year.Im not really all that worried about Ponder.Hes an intelligent guy.Im excited to see how it turns out.I dont think our o line will be half bad.The secondary will be the most improved of anything cause it dont get worse than last year.Peterson will probably never be the same but we still have Gerhart and even if Peterson is 75-80 percent youll still have to guard against him.The Packers have plenty to worry about with Starks often injured and Green coming off an acl of his own.Then you have Saine.The Packers secondary is questionable with the release of Nick Collins,Tramon Williams coming back from a nerve injury,Woodsen is 35.And then probably youre biggest concern,and no Im not hoping for it,just stating facts,if Rodgers were to go down the entire season could be lost.Even if the Packers get Colt Mccoy.In the Vikings case if Ponder goes down we have Webb.So I wouldnt say you have nothing to worry about.
Vikings seemed to have done well in the draft and addressed areas of need as did the Packers. The Vikings can improve, now that they have implemented a GM and have focused on building a team. It seems their all in with Ponder, just like the Packers and Lions have done with Rodgers and Stafford. The only thing is.....can you see Ponder putting up 4000+ yds and 40+ tds like Stafford and Rodgers did and more than likely they will do it again and again barring injuries. He will need to for the Vikings to have a chance because NFL rules have been changed to benefit offenses and QBs and WRs. Vikings need better weapons at WR, there is no comparison in the NFL to what Green Bay has at WR. Gotta get Ponder better weapons, Carlson and Simpson wont cut it imo. I do think that they had a good draft though, maybe one of those late round wide outs will develop into something nice.

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