OMG! Just look at this!

OMG! Just look at this!

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“Towards Spring”

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Since: Dec 06

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#1 Aug 28, 2014
I honestly believe such a serious matter deserves it's own thread for discussion>

http://www.news.com.au/world/girl-nine-accide...

Maybe it's because over here where I live & where guns aren't freely available even
by police, I was shocked to read about this-
Moreover a girl of such tender years being introduced to GUNS!
where she should be out playing hopscotch, I mean

REALLY? Really? Is this ok in your opinion?
Emerald

Allentown, PA

#2 Aug 28, 2014
Being an American, it's still shocking to me, Grace. I don't understand why her parents or any parent would want their child learning to shoot an Uzi. Well, maybe I do understand. It's the violent times we live in and parents want their children to be confident and to be able to defend themselves - but an uzi? Martial arts is generally the choice of defense that many kids are instructed in, but firearms is too risky imo. Even taking a child to a shooting range is dangerous. We see even with an instructor that things can go wrong. How tragic and not a memory that little girl will ever want to be reminded of in the future.

“Denny Crain”

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#3 Aug 28, 2014
Grace Nerissa wrote:
I honestly believe such a serious matter deserves it's own thread for discussion>
http://www.news.com.au/world/girl-nine-accide...
Maybe it's because over here where I live & where guns aren't freely available even
by police, I was shocked to read about this-
Moreover a girl of such tender years being introduced to GUNS!
where she should be out playing hopscotch, I mean
REALLY? Really? Is this ok in your opinion?
This is a terrible accident. I believe children should be instructed at an early age to use a gun. Just to take the mystery away from a gun so they know how serious they are. I don't believe a 9 year old should be anywhere near a full auto machine gun. I had my kids start with a .22 at an early age . I have lots of guns and I didn't want them to be thought of as a toy

---Word Woman---

Since: Aug 14

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#4 Aug 28, 2014
I agree...this is terrible. I can understand teaching a child at 9 years of age how to use a bee bee gun (sp?) or maybe even a small handgun, but not a very powerful fully automatic weapon. Is it even legal to own an automatic weapon?!?
Emerald

Allentown, PA

#5 Aug 28, 2014
---Word Woman--- wrote:
I agree...this is terrible. I can understand teaching a child at 9 years of age how to use a bee bee gun (sp?) or maybe even a small handgun, but not a very powerful fully automatic weapon. Is it even legal to own an automatic weapon?!?
I once had the belief that BB guns were harmless and never gave much thought to them before. My opinion changed one day when a neighbor's 10 year old son was apparently in his upstairs bedroom and aimed a BB gun at my husband's rear end. It left quite a mark in my hubby's backside and it hurt for about a week after. I immediately could see where the direction of the pellet had to come from and had seen the window still open. I told his parents what had just happened and they didn't deny it, but also refused to acknowledge it. I then called the police and they spoke with the parents. The police said they believe the kid did it too and he thinks the parents were handling it, whatever that was suppose to mean. I was just relieved that the BB didn't hit my hubby in the eye. That would have been far worse and could have resulted in the loss of his eyesight or even the eye itself. Now the question is why did this kid shoot a BB gun at my hubby? Just for kicks and target practice. He lives on the street behind us and probably didn't think we would know where the shot was coming from.

---Word Woman---

Since: Aug 14

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#6 Aug 28, 2014
Emerald wrote:
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I once had the belief that BB guns were harmless and never gave much thought to them before. My opinion changed one day when a neighbor's 10 year old son was apparently in his upstairs bedroom and aimed a BB gun at my husband's rear end. It left quite a mark in my hubby's backside and it hurt for about a week after. I immediately could see where the direction of the pellet had to come from and had seen the window still open. I told his parents what had just happened and they didn't deny it, but also refused to acknowledge it. I then called the police and they spoke with the parents. The police said they believe the kid did it too and he thinks the parents were handling it, whatever that was suppose to mean. I was just relieved that the BB didn't hit my hubby in the eye. That would have been far worse and could have resulted in the loss of his eyesight or even the eye itself. Now the question is why did this kid shoot a BB gun at my hubby? Just for kicks and target practice. He lives on the street behind us and probably didn't think we would know where the shot was coming from.
That's awful!!! I think BB guns, like any others (even paint guns...those hurt, too), should be locked up by parents & should only be used when a parent is present to make sure they are being used in a responsible manner...

---Word Woman---

Since: Aug 14

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#7 Aug 28, 2014
***paintball guns...just wanted to clarify

“Denny Crain”

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#8 Aug 28, 2014
---Word Woman--- wrote:
I agree...this is terrible. I can understand teaching a child at 9 years of age how to use a bee bee gun (sp?) or maybe even a small handgun, but not a very powerful fully automatic weapon. Is it even legal to own an automatic weapon?!?
You need a class 3 license and pay a $200 tax to own a full auto. Before 1934 you could buy a Thompson machine gun at Sears

“Denny Crain”

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#9 Aug 28, 2014
---Word Woman--- wrote:
***paintball guns...just wanted to clarify
LOL I thought you were talking about a drive by spray painting :)

“Towards Spring”

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#10 Aug 28, 2014
excellent comments and points above..
Just thinking of an old saying so true>

'If you're gonna play with fire,
you're gonna get burned'

“Denny Crain”

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#11 Aug 28, 2014
Sad but true Grace. Guns are very dangerous and it is the empty gun that kills someone. You just have to teach that every gun is to be treated as loaded

---Word Woman---

Since: Aug 14

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#12 Aug 28, 2014
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text> LOL I thought you were talking about a drive by spray painting :)
LOL...I noticed that after I posted ;)

“Don't worry about me, I"m fine”

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Since: Aug 13

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#13 Aug 28, 2014
Guns are a very touchy topic here in the US. Most of us in rural areas are big advocates for guns, and teach our children respect for them.
That being said, the true victim in this story is not the dead instructor, he will not wake up every morning for the rest of his life like this poor 9 year old girl and look in the mirror and have to live knowing that she killed somebody.
I hope she realizes someday soon that this was not her fault. Her parents should have not allowed her to fire a weapon beyond her capability. The instructor bore the same responsibility, he has paid the price for his misjudgment of her ability. I feel for his family.

This is not the normal outcome for children learning about weapons.
On Sunday, in the next county over Pheasant's Forever, Ducks Unlimited and the local sportsman club sponsored a youth activity day. 550 Children --all under the age of 16, some as young as 4-5, attended the event. There were 23 different stations and the children got to do many things, all outdoors related.
This event was ran wonderfully, there were as many safety classes as fun learning stations. How to start a campfire, came with the safety of not to leave it unattended and the correct way to put it out, and each child had the chance to cook over it. Other stations were sling shot, bb gun, trap shooting, muzzleloader, bird shooting, ax throwing, archery, retriever dogs, boat and fishing safety.
Yes, sounds dangerous, however, at no time did I ever see anything that I thought was even borderline un-safe. They had more safety personnel than kids. I observed many instructors helping kids and keeping a hand on the weapon while a kid was firing.....because the instructor was unsure of the childs ability to control the weapon. A good time was had by all and there were NO injuries!!!!

“Don't worry about me, I"m fine”

Level 5

Since: Aug 13

middle of nowhere

#14 Aug 28, 2014
That all being said.....
I believe that EVERY child should go to gun safety.

All of my children went. My oldest did not want to go. She went anyway, in case she was ever put into a situation with a weapon. In order to get your certificate, you must go to the range and fire a weapon. To my knowledge, that is the only time in her life that she has touched a gun. She didn't have the desire and that is ok. I sleep well at night, knowing that she has the knowledge about gun safety should she ever need it.

The flip side of the coin, my youngest loves the outdoors and at the age of 14 got to fire a 55 CAL flintlock muzzleloader on Sunday. He was thrilled and said it was the most fun thing he had done all summer. I know from watching that he to knows how to be safe, even when experiencing a gun that he has no previous knowledge of.

IMHO, guns are like cars, while sometimes the driver makes mistakes and kill somebody, doesn't mean that we should outlaw driving.

“Denny Crain”

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#15 Aug 28, 2014
Very wise 2 Special : )
beatlesinthebog

Palmerston North, New Zealand

#17 Aug 28, 2014
Well,the clown ended up being hoist by his own pe ........... (haha Uzi) Not really funny ...R.I.P mate ................ BUT .... like any tool of the trade ...one must be careful of losing respect for the tool itself and the damage that may result ............ whether it's weaponry, chainsaws, overhead cranes, electricty (the figures on deaths are outstounding) etc,etc. As someone else said.... it's the young girl I feel sorrow for,hopefully in the future she will realize the blame,if any, goes back to her idiotic parents (and the instructor himself) ......... Do they not have the nous to understand that unlike movies,automatics recoil. .....I shake my head ........... sadly
Emerald

Allentown, PA

#18 Aug 28, 2014
---Word Woman--- wrote:
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That's awful!!! I think BB guns, like any others (even paint guns...those hurt, too), should be locked up by parents & should only be used when a parent is present to make sure they are being used in a responsible manner...
Thanks WW. I agree.

I can remember when toy guns were very popular with the kiddies. My older brother had holsters and cap guns and a toy rifle copied from "The Rifleman" series, but never a BB gun. Thank god for that because I most certainly would have been my brother's first "victim", lol. Also popular were the toy air guns as seen in "A Christmas Story", and as most of us can remember from the story when Robbie was told time and again - "Hey kid, you'll shoot yer eye out!"
an_observer

Trexlertown, PA

#19 Aug 28, 2014
Grace Nerissa wrote:
I honestly believe such a serious matter deserves it's own thread for discussion>
http://www.news.com.au/world/girl-nine-accide...
Maybe it's because over here where I live & where guns aren't freely available even
by police, I was shocked to read about this-
Moreover a girl of such tender years being introduced to GUNS!
where she should be out playing hopscotch, I mean
REALLY? Really? Is this ok in your opinion?
I agree with you, and it seems like everyone's gone gun happy. What happened to playing with dolls, or jacks too, I liked hopscotch too, we used a hoppy heel, and kicked it out of each numbered block . I can picture my friends and I playing that at recess 3rd and 4th grades, it was alot of fun.

Guns arn't fun for kids, SQUIRT GUNS are alot of fun in the summertime but not REAL GUNS, what the hec is going on out there?

Petal Power

“It's a New Dawn”

Since: Feb 14

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#20 Aug 28, 2014
This is an Unfortunate Accident.,FER SURE!!

Like EVERYTHING in LIFE..Bad Experiences TEACH us..HOW to be more SAFETY CONSCIOUS!!

This is a SAD Day for the Families involved..BUT, it WILL draw attention to HOW to Prevent another Tragedy..
get a clue

Flossmoor, IL

#21 Aug 28, 2014
Yeah........process of elimination

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