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Roy

Owensboro, KY

#64 May 31, 2014
greymouser wrote:
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Jesus Christ is also silent on homosexuality. Or eating shrimp. Or wearing mixed fiber clothes.
Jesus Christ did have something to say about paying taxes. And about wealth.
He also meekly succumbed to authorities to his death.
OK! You hate Jesus Christ. Do you have a religion?

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Nehwon

#65 May 31, 2014
Roy wrote:
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OK! You hate Jesus Christ. Do you have a religion?
There's an old saying.

When you assume, you make an ass out of u and me.

In this case, it's just assu-ing.

But look on the bright side. When Jesus comes back for the third time, he might just pick an ass like you to ride into Jerusalem.

For bonus heaven points, you get to witness him being crucified again when he tries to repeat his message.
Roy

Owensboro, KY

#66 May 31, 2014
greymouser wrote:
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There's an old saying.
When you assume, you make an ass out of u and me.
In this case, it's just assu-ing.
But look on the bright side. When Jesus comes back for the third time, he might just pick an ass like you to ride into Jerusalem.
For bonus heaven points, you get to witness him being crucified again when he tries to repeat his message.
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God? Do you believe that he came to save the son of Man?

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Nehwon

#67 May 31, 2014
Roy wrote:
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Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God? Do you believe that he came to save the son of Man?
And here comes the dogma.

Do you believe Jesus was historical or mythical?
Roy

Owensboro, KY

#68 May 31, 2014
greymouser wrote:
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And here comes the dogma.
Do you believe Jesus was historical or mythical?
I believe in evolution and God.

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Nehwon

#69 May 31, 2014
Don't bother to answer that question.

It's exceptionally controversial with no definitive answer.

Instead, let me ask this:

Does it matter if the ideas Jesus puts forth whether he was divine or just a human?
Ol Buck

Owensboro, KY

#70 May 31, 2014
greymouser wrote:
Don't bother to answer that question.
It's exceptionally controversial with no definitive answer.
Instead, let me ask this:
Does it matter if the ideas Jesus puts forth whether he was divine or just a human?
both

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#71 Jun 2, 2014
greymouser wrote:
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So you don't like tradition for thousands of years?
What's your cut off point where tradition should be cast aside for a better idea?
1000 years?
500?
250?
grandfather?
Written in a holy book?
I thought ..as we go along,
we become more enlightened(?)

Some traditions are fine and harmless,
ie.. Visiting Grandad's grave even in the frost and ice
on a Christmas Day...

the cut off point in a tradition ought to be
when one realises that tradition affects harms and humiliates
The human being

ie>

'Female circumcision ''stoning people to death' etc.

In more recent times..

It was considered a tradition to beat the
living daylights out of a child in school
To 'make' the child learn!
('I' know, first hand of these experiences)

Now you can be arrested for doing the same.

I just cannot GO with these ideas and traditions.

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Nehwon

#72 Jun 3, 2014
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both
Both?

It was a yes/no question of whether it matters if Jesus was divine or human.

You think you are being slick with a vague answer but all I see is a worm trying to squiggle out from a disturbing question.

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Nehwon

#73 Jun 3, 2014
Grace Nerissa wrote:
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I thought ..as we go along,
we become more enlightened(?)
Some traditions are fine and harmless,
ie.. Visiting Grandad's grave even in the frost and ice
on a Christmas Day...
the cut off point in a tradition ought to be
when one realises that tradition affects harms and humiliates
The human being
ie>
'Female circumcision ''stoning people to death' etc.
In more recent times..
It was considered a tradition to beat the
living daylights out of a child in school
To 'make' the child learn!
('I' know, first hand of these experiences)
Now you can be arrested for doing the same.
I just cannot GO with these ideas and traditions.
But this has been tradition over the years and written down perfectly through all the translations.

(well, not sure about the female circumcision as they are secondary citizens in the Bible so that might be human interpretation. But male circumcision is a requirement to fulfill a covenant with God).

Are you suggesting some parts of the Bible may no longer apply?

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#74 Jun 3, 2014
greymouser wrote:
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But this has been tradition over the years and written down perfectly through all the translations.
(well, not sure about the female circumcision as they are secondary citizens in the Bible so that might be human interpretation. But male circumcision is a requirement to fulfill a covenant with God).
Are you suggesting some parts of the Bible may no longer apply?
Lol.....Exactly.

Look at cigarettes in more recent times,
When I was a child smoking was the order of the day
Even it wasn't unusual for 'doctors'!!! to recommend
Them to patients for relaxation.

Now we ALL know about the deadly dangers of cigarettes,
No need to to spell it out here..
well, just another example...
But I think a valid..

Learning and researching constantly
improves the human journey,
therefore, change is inevitable..along the way

(I think)

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Nehwon

#75 Jun 4, 2014
Grace Nerissa wrote:
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Lol.....Exactly.
Look at cigarettes in more recent times,
When I was a child smoking was the order of the day
Even it wasn't unusual for 'doctors'!!! to recommend
Them to patients for relaxation.
Now we ALL know about the deadly dangers of cigarettes,
No need to to spell it out here..
well, just another example...
But I think a valid..
Learning and researching constantly
improves the human journey,
therefore, change is inevitable..along the way
(I think)
Ahh, but you think that now.

Back in the day, advertising glorified smoking.

And the tobacco industry paid 4 out of 5 doctors to just say smoking was good for you.

When the science studies started to converge smoking was a bad thing, the industry lawyers circled their wagons.

Their tactics changed from there's no definitive evidence smoking is bad to smokers should have the freedom to smoke.

And since it was their personal choice of addiction, we should not be responsible for their medical bills in excess of a tithe of our company's profits.

If you disagree, well, you are a commie, liberal, fascist, woman, gay, black, hispanic, Italian, Irish, German, Russian, Chinese, Filipino, Catholic, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, atheist, or <insert some other minority to cast blame on here>.
Grace Nerissa

Letterkenny, Ireland

#76 Jun 5, 2014
greymouser wrote:
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Ahh, but you think that now.
Back in the day, advertising glorified smoking.
And the tobacco industry paid 4 out of 5 doctors to just say smoking was good for you.
When the science studies started to converge smoking was a bad thing, the industry lawyers circled their wagons.
Their tactics changed from there's no definitive evidence smoking is bad to smokers should have the freedom to smoke.
And since it was their personal choice of addiction, we should not be responsible for their medical bills in excess of a tithe of our company's profits.
If you disagree, well, you are a commie, liberal, fascist, woman, gay, black, hispanic, Italian, Irish, German, Russian, Chinese, Filipino, Catholic, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, atheist, or <insert some other minority to cast blame on here>.
Yes of COURSE advertisers glorified smoking,
that was their job:) But I dare say there were some clever
far seeing medics who saw the dangers and wouldn't be swayed or weak enough to be bribed..
But my point really was, how one can break a tradition..
When the error of that tradition's way comes to light...

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Nehwon

#77 Jun 6, 2014
Grace Nerissa wrote:
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Yes of COURSE advertisers glorified smoking,
that was their job:) But I dare say there were some clever
far seeing medics who saw the dangers and wouldn't be swayed or weak enough to be bribed..
But my point really was, how one can break a tradition..
When the error of that tradition's way comes to light...
"But my point really was, how one can break a tradition..
When the error of that tradition's way comes to light"

Perhaps you can look to the US Constitution.

There are 16 amendments beyond the 10 Bill of Rights.

Including one really bad mistake of trying to use the Constitution for Social Engineering (Prohibition).

Come to think of it, the Constitution has had a number of mistakes. Slavery, Women voting, voting age at 21.

There seems to be a lot of people who wish to amend the Constitution to restrict citizens and forget that the Constitution is supposed to rein in the government.

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