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Spirit67_
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#307 Aug 11, 2014
Independent wrote:
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It may not be against the rules, it is, however, against common sense to run onto the track with speeding cars racing by.
If there were no race they wouldn't throw the flag. Cars do not immediately drop to 2 mph because of a flag.
Flag or no flag, it is still an ongoing race.
Do you play on the freeway often?
There were no speeding car's....Sorry, but you don't have ALL the answers twit!

Spirit67_
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#308 Aug 11, 2014
Harrison Freebird wrote:
<quoted text>How might you know this ? Were you at the race ?
Like I've already said.........you are dumber than a stone
Just look at the video and keep being dumb!

Spirit67_
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#309 Aug 11, 2014
Normally 'hot heads' like Tony usually get they're Karma...One day when he get's out of his car and decides to throw his helmet at a car, because he's mad; who knows he may end up like this poor young man that was purposely run over!
Independent

United States

#310 Aug 11, 2014
Spirit67_ wrote:
There were no speeding car's....Sorry, but you don't have ALL the answers twit!
When one resorts to name calling, they have lost the argument, and any credibility they may have had.

Luck for you your credibility was lost long ago. So this time you have only lost the argument.
Independent

United States

#311 Aug 11, 2014
*Lucky* for you.....
Sprint Car Racing

Francesville, IN

#312 Aug 11, 2014
as I have already stated:
" he's still on and off the throttle to keep oil and water temperature up "
throttle response is very important and carbs must continue to get feed!
"all of them are": if you've never been to a race and don't know anything about it you have absolutely no understanding as to driver response and anything else about this tragedy!'Spirit67' especially you, your mouth is so big I could run a 'sprint' car down it,@ least give it a try!!!
YOU don't have an 'inkling' about what your talking about, but what's new???
Your mouth is going to get you in big trouble, stick to your dumbass stuff, OK???
Aka - Alias

Jackson, MO

#313 Aug 11, 2014
I too was shaken up when I heard the news and watched the clips.
Tragic all around .. Condolences to Families, Friends and Loved ones
all over this country that mourn this senseless .. ending to another race.
We live on .. to start them engines again and know the young lad will watch upon us knowing,.. more than we about it all.

Good Night Off/Weird:
Second time too

Salt Lake City, UT

#314 Aug 11, 2014
Trouser Cough wrote:
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Watch the video a few more times ......
It was the 45 car, the one just ahead of Tony Stewart, that "burped his throttle" after his own very close call with Mr Ward - not Tony Stewart.
Tony Stewart never saw the guy until it was too late.
I think it is you that needs to watch the video again. The car that buzzed him and ultimately killed him, most definitely kicked its tail out as it went by. Stewart knows the game. Hell, he's gotten out of his car before to throw his helmet at another driver that came around on the yellow. It's not like it's anything new in racing. He's buzzed other drivers before. This time, it bit him in the ass. He wanted to intimidate the kid and ended up killing him.

---Word Woman---

Since: Aug 14

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#315 Aug 11, 2014
Ok...here's my two cents on this subject:

I watched the video & I agree, it DOES look bad on Stewart's part (and, let me point out that I have met Tony Stewart several times & am not a fan...)
However, I spoke with my father (who built stock car engines for many NASCAR drivers for many years) & asked him about it. He had also seen the video & agreed that it looked bad, but said that:
1. All drivers know to remain in their cars until help arrives (though not all do)
2. There is very limited visibility in those sprint cars & a very wide rear wheel base
3. The reason that Tony Stewart hit the throttle is b/c that helps to steer those particular cars to the left & he was attempting to miss the driver, but clipped him with the right back tire (which is larger than the left rear tire)

So, while I agree that Tony Stewart is a pr!ck...this tragedy wasn't his fault & the deceased driver should have NEVER been that far down the track...it was a stupid move on his part, with tragic consequences...

---Word Woman---

Since: Aug 14

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#316 Aug 11, 2014
Second time too wrote:
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I think it is you that needs to watch the video again. The car that buzzed him and ultimately killed him, most definitely kicked its tail out as it went by. Stewart knows the game. Hell, he's gotten out of his car before to throw his helmet at another driver that came around on the yellow. It's not like it's anything new in racing. He's buzzed other drivers before. This time, it bit him in the ass. He wanted to intimidate the kid and ended up killing him.
His tail kicked out b/c he clipped the driver...not in an attempt to hit the driver...
Independent

United States

#317 Aug 11, 2014
---Word Woman--- wrote:
Ok...here's my two cents on this subject:
I watched the video & I agree, it DOES look bad on Stewart's part (and, let me point out that I have met Tony Stewart several times & am not a fan...)
However, I spoke with my father (who built stock car engines for many NASCAR drivers for many years) & asked him about it. He had also seen the video & agreed that it looked bad, but said that:
1. All drivers know to remain in their cars until help arrives (though not all do)
2. There is very limited visibility in those sprint cars & a very wide rear wheel base
3. The reason that Tony Stewart hit the throttle is b/c that helps to steer those particular cars to the left & he was attempting to miss the driver, but clipped him with the right back tire (which is larger than the left rear tire)
So, while I agree that Tony Stewart is a pr!ck...this tragedy wasn't his fault & the deceased driver should have NEVER been that far down the track...it was a stupid move on his part, with tragic consequences...
100% agree with you and your father's assessment.

---Word Woman---

Since: Aug 14

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#318 Aug 11, 2014
Independent wrote:
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100% agree with you and your father's assessment.
Well, thank you... I can certainly understand why folks who simply view the video might think Stewart clipped the driver intentionally, but I think it's important to understand the facts re: the cars before making any determination about Stewart's intentions and/or guilt. Not everything is as it seems...

“& My Favorite Dog Muttley ”

Level 10

Since: Nov 07

Myrtle Beach, SC

#319 Aug 11, 2014
Second time too wrote:
<quoted text>I think it is you that needs to watch the video again. The car that buzzed him and ultimately killed him, most definitely kicked its tail out as it went by. Stewart knows the game. Hell, he's gotten out of his car before to throw his helmet at another driver that came around on the yellow. It's not like it's anything new in racing. He's buzzed other drivers before. This time, it bit him in the ass. He wanted to intimidate the kid and ended up killing him.
You must be viewing a different video than what most others have seen. I've seen no video proof out there that supports your theory - as Word Woman states - Stewart's car does kick out or wobble - but only after the unfortunate contact took place.

Bottom Line - Mr Ward knew the game as well - rules that state a driver is to remain in his car until safety crews arrive - unless a car is on fire - it's unfortunate Mr Ward didn't follow those rules.

My thoughts & prayers to everyone involved in this unfortunate accident.

“"*" Always Thinking "*"”

Level 8

Since: Nov 12

Greensburg, IN

#320 Aug 12, 2014
---Word Woman--- wrote:
My father (who built stock car engines for many NASCAR drivers for many years) I asked him about it. He had also seen the video & agreed that it looked bad, but said that:
1. All drivers know to remain in their cars until help arrives (though not all do)
2. There is very limited visibility in those sprint cars & a very wide rear wheel base
3. The reason that Tony Stewart hit the throttle is b/c that helps to steer those particular cars to the left & he was attempting to miss the driver, but clipped him with the right back tire (which is larger than the left rear tire)
So, while I agree that Tony Stewart is a pr!ck...this tragedy wasn't his fault & the deceased driver should have NEVER been that far down the track...it was a stupid move on his part, with tragic consequences...
If Ward hadn't walked as far down the track as he did he wouldn't have gotten hit. You can see him walking backwards on the track and staying high then he walks down the track banking 2
more times - the last time got him!
Hobby racing is nothing like professional racing, the cars are different and so are the rules.
Every driver in both is told to stay in the car until help arrives. One reason you didn't see help
is they got enough sense to stay off the track until the cars slow down and that never happens in 1 lap unless the race is black flagged, which after Tony hit him I'm sure it was.
Usually in 3/4 midget, midget, and sprint car racing they maintain certain RPM's to keep the engine 'torqued'.
It is not uncommon to -sprint- accelerator (gas petal for the dummies) in the corners to help turn the car!
The "dirt" is loose where they were circling the track and maintaining direction takes
a lot of 'finesse' even at slow speeds. If you've never tried you'd never know just how
tough it is. It's constantly a battle of throttle and steering or you spin out.
Tony IMO has 'mellowed out' considerably since he was reattributed by NASCAR and had to attend ( Anger managment classes ). He can and is a 'smartazz' type of personality but his
temper has mellowed same as mine [ it's a racing thing ].

IMPO: Not Tony's fault in any way, shape, or form!
The HOTHEAD was "The other guy!"

“"*" Always Thinking "*"”

Level 8

Since: Nov 12

Greensburg, IN

#321 Aug 12, 2014
"Kudos" to your father
---Word Woman---
( He's on it!)
Ask him if he knew Dick Dwinger from Greensburg
Built the engines for 3/4 midgets in the 70's & 80's

“Denny Crain”

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#322 Aug 12, 2014
Good morning HH. Have a great day!

---Word Woman---

Since: Aug 14

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#323 Aug 12, 2014
Hoosier Hillbilly wrote:
"Kudos" to your father
---Word Woman---
( He's on it!)
Ask him if he knew Dick Dwinger from Greensburg
Built the engines for 3/4 midgets in the 70's & 80's
Thanks...and will do :)
There's a good chance that he might...my dad built engines during the 70s, 80s, & 90s...he worked for Banjo Matthews before starting his own engine business...

“"*" Always Thinking "*"”

Level 8

Since: Nov 12

Greensburg, IN

#324 Aug 12, 2014
That ol'boy deserves some recognition!

Banjo Matthews

www.youtube.com/watch...

"My biggest memory was in Victory Lane that day (at Rockingham)," says Donnie Allison. "Banjo, standing there with tears running down his cheeks, says to me,'I knew that I could win another race.' As a car owner, he just never had the opportunity to have a regular driver who could concentrate on winning races. As a person, Banjo was as good as I ever knew. As a racer, he was the most knowledgeable I've ever known."

Junior Johnson also won two races in Matthews-owned cars. "I was a friend and associate of Banjo's my entire racing career," says Johnson. "We worked together a lot on chassis development and most of the stuff used today resulted from that relationship. We used to talk on the phone five or six times a day. He was devoted to helping others a lot more than himself."

Read more: www.circletrack.com/thehistoryof/1804/#ixzz3A...

www.legendsofnascar.com/Banjo_Matthews.htm

---Word Woman---

Since: Aug 14

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#325 Aug 12, 2014
Hoosier Hillbilly wrote:
That ol'boy deserves some recognition!
Banjo Matthews
www.youtube.com/watch...
"My biggest memory was in Victory Lane that day (at Rockingham)," says Donnie Allison. "Banjo, standing there with tears running down his cheeks, says to me,'I knew that I could win another race.' As a car owner, he just never had the opportunity to have a regular driver who could concentrate on winning races. As a person, Banjo was as good as I ever knew. As a racer, he was the most knowledgeable I've ever known."
Junior Johnson also won two races in Matthews-owned cars. "I was a friend and associate of Banjo's my entire racing career," says Johnson. "We worked together a lot on chassis development and most of the stuff used today resulted from that relationship. We used to talk on the phone five or six times a day. He was devoted to helping others a lot more than himself."
Read more: www.circletrack.com/thehistoryof/1804/#ixzz3A...
www.legendsofnascar.com/Banjo_Matthews.htm
Here's something you might find interesting, Hoosier:

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^^^^my dad's engine was in that car^^^^
David Morrison

Bamako, Mali

#326 Aug 12, 2014
---Word Woman--- wrote:
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Here's something you might find interesting, Hoosier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =uzxcuV5rmA4XX&feature=you tube_gdata_player
^^^^my dad's engine was in that car^^^^
Tony Stewart didn't run all THOSE people over so he's not entirely bad.

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