“I know where you are,”

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#512 Dec 20, 2012
I knew you were a fake.

Probably a sock puppet too.

“Antisocialistic”

Level 2

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#513 Dec 20, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
I knew you were a fake.

Probably a sock puppet too.
And again! This is too good! Deflection, deflection, deflection. You're exposed.
If you want to debate ON TOPIC, I'm more than happy to do so.
If you insist on defective tangents, enjoy talking to yourself.

“Antisocialistic”

Level 2

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#515 Dec 20, 2012
Come on Milwaukee69, show us how local government isn't government. We'll be patiently waiting.

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#516 Dec 20, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
Come on Milwaukee69, show us how local government isn't government. We'll be patiently waiting.
No, you'll be patiently waiting - a long time I'm afraid.

I already answered that.

Use that cyber-education of your's and flip back through the pages and read for once.

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#517 Dec 20, 2012
Federal government was implied.

Local government in the United States is structured in accordance with the laws of the various individual states, territories, and the District of Columbia.

Typically each state has at least two separate tiers of local government: counties and municipalities.

Some states further have their counties divided into townships. There are several different types of local government at the municipal level, generally reflecting the needs of different levels of population densities; typical examples include the city, town, borough, and village.

The types and nature of these municipal entities varies from state to state. Many rural areas and even some suburban areas of many states have no municipal government below the county level, while others do not operate under a distinct county government at all.

In other places the different tiers are merged, for example as a consolidated cityĖcounty in which city and county functions are managed by a single municipal government, or in the case of towns in New England, which in some states have completely replaced the county as the unit of local government.

I stated that local municipalities set their own laws and local statutes. It has nothing to do with federal government.

The subject was smoking and bans on 64 oz. soft drinks.

“Antisocialistic”

Level 2

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#518 Dec 20, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
Federal government was implied.

Local government in the United States is structured in accordance with the laws of the various individual states, territories, and the District of Columbia.

Typically each state has at least two separate tiers of local government: counties and municipalities.

Some states further have their counties divided into townships. There are several different types of local government at the municipal level, generally reflecting the needs of different levels of population densities; typical examples include the city, town, borough, and village.

The types and nature of these municipal entities varies from state to state. Many rural areas and even some suburban areas of many states have no municipal government below the county level, while others do not operate under a distinct county government at all.

In other places the different tiers are merged, for example as a consolidated city¬Ėcounty in which city and county functions are managed by a single municipal government, or in the case of towns in New England, which in some states have completely replaced the county as the unit of local government.

I stated that local municipalities set their own laws and local statutes. It has nothing to do with federal government.

The subject was smoking and bans on 64 oz. soft drinks.
You just wasted a lot of typing.
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not the government's decision - again, understand local and city laws and ordinaces. It's the city or county that lays down these ordinances - you next door neighbor or friend - that votes and enacts these ordinances, no the federal government.

I see no implication of Federal Government. That qualifies as an after the fact, ass covering statement.

“Grab all the good”

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Since: Jul 10

Rowlett Tx

#519 Dec 20, 2012
I just heard on the news that gun sales are up 800%

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#520 Dec 20, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
You just wasted a lot of typing.
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not the government's decision - again, understand local and city laws and ordinaces. It's the city or county that lays down these ordinances - you next door neighbor or friend - that votes and enacts these ordinances, no the federal government.
I see no implication of Federal Government. That qualifies as an after the fact, ass covering statement.
Here ya' go twit...

"The government is already beginning to attack fast food. NYC bans trans fats in restaurants. The fool Bloomberg has banned sugary drinks over 16 oz. Thatís not the role of government."

It wasn't the government that banned trans fat - it was New York City and a local ordinance - as well as large soft drinks. The ordinace was voted in by the city health department - which is a little different than a federal government mandate or law. I also told him/her that he/she had a better control of government at the local level than the federal level.

"On Thursday the New York City Health Department became the first in the nation to ban the sale of sugared beverages larger than 16 oz. at restaurants, mobile food carts, sports arenas and movie theaters."

http://healthland.time.com/2012/09/13/goodbye...

Try to keep up - I know it's hard for you.

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#521 Dec 20, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
I just heard on the news that gun sales are up 800%
Ooooooo!!!!

That's got me tingling all over!!!

And I would assume copycat crimes will be up 900%.

Congrats.

“Grab all the good”

Level 5

Since: Jul 10

Rowlett Tx

#522 Dec 20, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ooooooo!!!!
That's got me tingling all over!!!
And I would assume copycat crimes will be up 900%.
Congrats.
I love it when the liberals go on a gun grab. The manufactures love it too as sales soar :) Clinton was gun salesman of the year but Obama is going to beat him

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#523 Dec 20, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>I love it when the liberals go on a gun grab.
And you know this is a "liberal gun grab" how?

On the contrary - it's probably all the conservaturd doomsday preppers out there stock piling.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#524 Dec 20, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
Awww...nice red herring.
My point was - if you even can grasp anything outside of the coconut between those slumped shoulders of your's - is that the federal government was not to blame, it's city ordinances.
And your bitching doesn't help your arguement in the least - but it does indicate a declining intelligence rate.
Yes, of course facts are a red herring.

Again, where did I say federal government? I stated government. Youíre dense. You have a reading comprehension problem and somehow Iím to blame. Liberal much?

Show everyone exactly where I stated federal government related to this. Bet you can't.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#525 Dec 20, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
Figures - red herrings as usual.
Do you know what a red herring is? Want to see a moron? Got a mirror?

Youíre one trying to be misleading. Where exactly did I state federal government as part of this conversation? You added the word federal. Itís you attempting to deceive. I would expect this type of argument from fairyman. Are you two related?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#526 Dec 20, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
Lol...speaking of smoke and mirrors and red herrings, where is that information on that indian tribe?
Yes, a clichť a second. Thatíll win a debate.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#527 Dec 20, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
Federal government was implied.
Local government in the United States is structured in accordance with the laws of the various individual states, territories, and the District of Columbia.
Typically each state has at least two separate tiers of local government: counties and municipalities.
Some states further have their counties divided into townships. There are several different types of local government at the municipal level, generally reflecting the needs of different levels of population densities; typical examples include the city, town, borough, and village.
The types and nature of these municipal entities varies from state to state. Many rural areas and even some suburban areas of many states have no municipal government below the county level, while others do not operate under a distinct county government at all.
In other places the different tiers are merged, for example as a consolidated cityĖcounty in which city and county functions are managed by a single municipal government, or in the case of towns in New England, which in some states have completely replaced the county as the unit of local government.
I stated that local municipalities set their own laws and local statutes. It has nothing to do with federal government.
The subject was smoking and bans on 64 oz. soft drinks.
Federal government wasnít implied. Hereís the post in full.
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Iím not sure banning tobacco would cause much of a stir today. According to the CDC less than 20% of all adults smoke. The number has been dropping for years. Those that smoke are in many ways a social pariah.
The interesting part of the equation is few seem to object to ever increasing restrictions on smokers. Many of the restrictions outrageous.
I donít smoke, donít like smelling it and donít want to be around it. However, if an establishment chooses to allow smoking it should be their choice. If a restaurant wants to cater to smokers that should be their choice. No, government stepped in an made a choice for them. Thatís wrong.
Weíre already headed in the direction of banning tobacco and to a lesser extent unhealthy fast food.
The government is already beginning to attack fast food. NYC bans trans fats in restaurants. The fool Bloomberg has banned sugary drinks over 16 oz. Thatís not the role of government.
NYC isnít alone. http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_scie...
Then you brought Georgia into the mix to which I replied
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Shouldnít it be the owner of the establishment deciding on catering to smokers or not? Thatís not the role of government.
Iím not sure how Georgia is relevant to the discussion. All government including Georgia should respect the rights of individuals.
If you donít want your child in a smoke filled restaurant choose another establishment. Once again, I donít smoke, I donít like it, donít want to be around it. I would choose another restaurant. But, I absolutely support the rights of people to make a difference choice than myself.
I used to smoke; I smoked for 30 years and quit about 6 years ago. I donít think anyone hates the smell of cigarette smoke more than ex-smokers. Again, I still support the rights of others to smoke.
Where exactly did I state federal government or imply federal government? Where?

Is your form of debate make up bullshit?

“I know where you are,”

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Right here under my thumb

#528 Dec 20, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know what a red herring is? Want to see a moron? Got a mirror?
Youíre one trying to be misleading. Where exactly did I state federal government as part of this conversation? You added the word federal. Itís you attempting to deceive. I would expect this type of argument from fairyman. Are you two related?
It's nice that you finally agree with what I'm saying.

You realize Geno, that pretending to know what you're talking about and actually knowing what your talking about are two entirely different things. It was the health department that banned large softdrinks in NYC - no government vote was needed - it came straight from the city's health department. No voting is needed when the health department is involved. Which I tried to explain to you that no local government had their hand in it. They also closed down two rat-infested pizzarias in that timeframe - rotten government.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#529 Dec 20, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
I just heard on the news that gun sales are up 800%
Iím not surprised. Good, makes my collection increase in value.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#530 Dec 20, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
Here ya' go twit...
"The government is already beginning to attack fast food. NYC bans trans fats in restaurants. The fool Bloomberg has banned sugary drinks over 16 oz. Thatís not the role of government."
It wasn't the government that banned trans fat - it was New York City and a local ordinance - as well as large soft drinks. The ordinace was voted in by the city health department - which is a little different than a federal government mandate or law. I also told him/her that he/she had a better control of government at the local level than the federal level.
"On Thursday the New York City Health Department became the first in the nation to ban the sale of sugared beverages larger than 16 oz. at restaurants, mobile food carts, sports arenas and movie theaters."
http://healthland.time.com/2012/09/13/goodbye...
Try to keep up - I know it's hard for you.
Youíve just proven you canít keep up. Where is federal government stated or implied? The New York City Health Department is a part of the NYC government.

Restricting beverage size isnít the role of government. Doesnít matter if itís city, state or federal. WTF is wrong with you?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#531 Dec 20, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ooooooo!!!!
That's got me tingling all over!!!
And I would assume copycat crimes will be up 900%.
Congrats.
Really? Based on what information? Are you really expecting nine more? If so, youíre more foolish than I imagined.

One twisted individual tragically shot a bunch of kids. Somehow you manage to equate that to all gun owners. You do realize there are more than 80 million gun owners in the US. How many school shootings? Not many given the number of gun owners.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#532 Dec 20, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
It's nice that you finally agree with what I'm saying.
You realize Geno, that pretending to know what you're talking about and actually knowing what your talking about are two entirely different things. It was the health department that banned large softdrinks in NYC - no government vote was needed - it came straight from the city's health department. No voting is needed when the health department is involved. Which I tried to explain to you that no local government had their hand in it. They also closed down two rat-infested pizzarias in that timeframe - rotten government.
How did you manage to conclude I agree with you? The health department is one role of the city government and is part of the city government. Any decree by the health department is done under the authority of the city government.

What is wrong with you?

What does a rat infested pizza place have to do with the discussion? Now thatís a red herring.

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