Absolute tragedy!

“Grab all the good”

Level 5

Since: Jul 10

Rowlett Tx

#469 Dec 19, 2012
Grace Nerissa wrote:
'Who' will EVER EVER *really* know
how this young man ticked..
it is all conjecture now..
The massacre has taken place.
as the saying goes
'Closing the stable door after the horse has gone'
God be with the families of
the beautiful LOST children..
No one knows much of anything yet and you can trust what you hear is right. We don't know what gun or guns were even used. To me the pistols were more dangerous than the rifle

Level 9

Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#470 Dec 19, 2012
14 yrs ago....right after my daughter was
born I had to sit down my boys (7 and 13)
and explain to them about Columbine.

I had to tell them to forget everything
I had ever told them about standing up for
ppl who couldn't stand up for themselves.

I felt like hell but I told them to HIDE
at the first hint of trouble at the school.
No matter what they heard just hide and don't
come out until you hear the Police call
an all clear.

Just a few days ago I had to sit down my
14 yr old and tell her the same thing.

It's a sad thing in this country when we have
to tell our kids to ignore their classmates
being killed just to keep themselves safe.

Personally I'm totally devastated. I keep
seeing all those Christmas presents under
the tree that will never be opened.

“frequently laughing”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Hotel California

#471 Dec 19, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>Hi AW I don't much care for AR-15 but I may buy one for the investment. At least the ammo is cheap. Just because I don't like a certain type of fire arm it sure isn't up to me what other people should do. I know a guy with an MP-5 full auto. He just loves to take it out and rock and roll. I would never spend that kind of money on the ammo. Same with the big 50 cal. Damn to expensive to shoot but then most bench rest shooting can get expensive fast :)
50 cals are illegal in California. Barret made a different model that is legal, the 416. Pricy ammo that no one keeps in stock, always has to be special ordered.

“frequently laughing”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Hotel California

#472 Dec 19, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
It wasn't a mental health issue that killed all those children.
It was a combination of factors and his mental health did affect his behavior. I am not saying it is an excuse. He is still responsible for what he did.

Level 9

Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#473 Dec 19, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
He was diagnosed with Asperger's.
What's not to understand?
Here, do some reading and learn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrom...
I believe that diagnosis is correct.
If you've seen his pictures he does appear
to have Asperger syndrome.(the low set ears
gives it away)
However I've never known an Asperger patient
to be violent.

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#474 Dec 19, 2012
Always Wary wrote:
<quoted text>50 cals are illegal in California. Barret made a different model that is legal, the 416. Pricy ammo that no one keeps in stock, always has to be special ordered.
So, not for home defense then?

Well, if you were defending your home from a mile away maybe?

Level 7

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#475 Dec 19, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>No one knows much of anything yet and you can trust what you hear is right. We don't know what gun or guns were even used. To me the pistols were more dangerous than the rifle
I agree...seem's early media reports were that the AR-15 was in the car trunk.....the pistols were more dangerous, easier to hide, quicker to reload....

“frequently laughing”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Hotel California

#476 Dec 19, 2012
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>So, not for home defense then?
Well, if you were defending your home from a mile away maybe?
True, not for home defense.

“frequently laughing”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Hotel California

#477 Dec 19, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
The syndrome is named after the Austrian pediatrician Hans Asperger who, in 1944, studied and described children in his practice who lacked nonverbal communication skills, demonstrated limited empathy with their peers, and were physically clumsy. The mainstay of management is behavioral therapy, focusing on specific deficits to address poor communication skills, obsessive or repetitive routines, and physical clumsiness.
There is no symptoms of Asperger's that connects to any violent behavior.
So you are assuming that was his only issue? If that was it there would be no need to to have him committed.
Having him committed was what his mother planned to do, more must have been going on. Connecticut is one of six states that does not have AOT (assisted outpatient treatment) having him committed would have been her only choice for treatment. She didn't have a degree in mental health, I doubt she could have imagined what he was going to do. It is possible to have more than one mental illness.

“Happiness is a warm gun”

Since: Nov 09

Hey Bungalow Bill, waddya kill

#478 Dec 19, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>I agree...seem's early media reports were that the AR-15 was in the car trunk.....the pistols were more dangerous, easier to hide, quicker to reload....
Do you folks just read early, early reports and say ff %%%ck it, that's all I "need to know"???
By Monday morning and night it was nailed down that the shotgun was left in the car, the Bushmaster was taken into the school.

“Here & Now”

Level 8

Since: Dec 06

‘

#479 Dec 19, 2012
Tiger Lilly wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Grace
That is not the point I was making, it was about making smoking against the law not banning in certain places.
Thanks for that,

I was kinda 'thinking aloud' really
when I saw the topic ..

I imagine they'll never be able to make
smoking illegal!.

ironic really when cigaratte smoking is now
'known' to be so injurious to health.

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#480 Dec 19, 2012
Deer Whisperer wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you folks just read early, early reports and say ff %%%ck it, that's all I "need to know"???
By Monday morning and night it was nailed down that the shotgun was left in the car, the Bushmaster was taken into the school.
That's the way I understood it. Fox teaches some folks to go with one's first impression and stay there.

“Happiness is a warm gun”

Since: Nov 09

Hey Bungalow Bill, waddya kill

#481 Dec 19, 2012
Deer Whisperer wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you folks just read early, early reports and say ff %%%ck it, that's all I "need to know"???
By Monday morning and night it was nailed down that the shotgun was left in the car, the Bushmaster was taken into the school.
Nix Monday ... how about Saturday evening according to the town newspaper (it was also on TV during the Sunday evening news that I saw):

http://newtown.patch.com/articles/police-no-m...

excerpting:

"The shooter who wielded that gun—discovered dead inside the building Friday with a rifle and two smaller guns near his body, police have said—has been widely reported to be Adam Lanza, 20. His motives remain unclear; state police are investigating."

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Level 8

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#482 Dec 19, 2012
Always Wary wrote:
<quoted text>So you are assuming that was his only issue? If that was it there would be no need to to have him committed.
Having him committed was what his mother planned to do, more must have been going on. Connecticut is one of six states that does not have AOT (assisted outpatient treatment) having him committed would have been her only choice for treatment. She didn't have a degree in mental health, I doubt she could have imagined what he was going to do. It is possible to have more than one mental illness.
And you're assuming that it wasn't? His mother wanted him committed because that was her only option. Living with a 20-year old with Asperger's isn't a cake walk. I surmise she had her hands full with him - but it was in no way the cause of his murderous episode. I didn't hear if he was still in school for his condition since Asperger's affects your speech and nonverbal communication skills, demonstrated limited empathy with their peers, and were physically clumsy. I assume, by virtue of this affliction, he also suffered from low self-esteem and probably was bullied - even by the younger kids in the neighborhood, which would explain his anger towards younger children.

It's a stretch, I know - but he did pre-plan this. If his thought process was even slightly disfigured, the plan would've fell through.

Level 9

Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#483 Dec 19, 2012
Deer Whisperer wrote:
<quoted text>
Nix Monday ... how about Saturday evening according to the town newspaper (it was also on TV during the Sunday evening news that I saw):
http://newtown.patch.com/articles/police-no-m...
excerpting:
"The shooter who wielded that gun—discovered dead inside the building Friday with a rifle and two smaller guns near his body, police have said—has been widely reported to be Adam Lanza, 20. His motives remain unclear; state police are investigating."
He destroyed all of the hard drives on his pcs.
I doubt his "motive" will ever be known.

What could it be anyway? Even if we knew why
he did it we would never understand it.
He was mentally ill.....period.

“Happiness is a warm gun”

Since: Nov 09

Hey Bungalow Bill, waddya kill

#484 Dec 19, 2012
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>That's the way I understood it. Fox teaches some folks to go with one's first impression and stay there.
Whatever is read in right-wing blogs and chain e-letters is Gospel Truth too!

“Happiness is a warm gun”

Since: Nov 09

Hey Bungalow Bill, waddya kill

#485 Dec 19, 2012
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
He destroyed all of the hard drives on his pcs.
I doubt his "motive" will ever be known.
What could it be anyway? Even if we knew why
he did it we would never understand it.
He was mentally ill.....period.
Yeah, indeed. That part in that excerpt I just left in because it finished that paragraph. I'm not smart enough about that topic to join in the exchanges here pertaining to "his mind". In some states, he could have been convicted even if "insane". I do know that.

Kudos to your U.S. Senator Joe M.; Dem. and Pro-gun and NRA; and he sticks his neck out and makes his statement anyway.

And it's way more important than 'Buck Wild'.:)

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Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Hotel California

#486 Dec 19, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
And you're assuming that it wasn't? His mother wanted him committed because that was her only option. Living with a 20-year old with Asperger's isn't a cake walk. I surmise she had her hands full with him - but it was in no way the cause of his murderous episode. I didn't hear if he was still in school for his condition since Asperger's affects your speech and nonverbal communication skills, demonstrated limited empathy with their peers, and were physically clumsy. I assume, by virtue of this affliction, he also suffered from low self-esteem and probably was bullied - even by the younger kids in the neighborhood, which would explain his anger towards younger children.
It's a stretch, I know - but he did pre-plan this. If his thought process was even slightly disfigured, the plan would've fell through.
Yes, I am assuming he had another mental issue besides Asperger's.

You do not need to be sane to plan and carry out a murderous plot.

“ASPIRE 2 INSPIRE B4 U EXPIRE”

Level 8

Since: Jul 08

USA

#487 Dec 19, 2012
for the victims

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United States

#488 Dec 19, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
And you're assuming that it wasn't? His mother wanted him committed because that was her only option. Living with a 20-year old with Asperger's isn't a cake walk. I surmise she had her hands full with him - but it was in no way the cause of his murderous episode. I didn't hear if he was still in school for his condition since Asperger's affects your speech and nonverbal communication skills, demonstrated limited empathy with their peers, and were physically clumsy. I assume, by virtue of this affliction, he also suffered from low self-esteem and probably was bullied - even by the younger kids in the neighborhood, which would explain his anger towards younger children.
It's a stretch, I know - but he did pre-plan this. If his thought process was even slightly disfigured, the plan would've fell through.
http://www.ibtimes.com/did-adam-lanza-have-as...
Psychologist Elizabeth Laugeson, an assistant clinical professor at the University of California, Los Angeles:
"In previous reports, which cited interviews with Lanza’s former classmates, the Sandy Hook shooter was described as intelligent, but painfully shy, anxious and a loner.
These types of tragedies have occurred at the hands of individuals with many different types of personalities and psychological profiles.
I think it’s far more likely that what happened may have more to do with some other kind of mental health condition like depression or anxiety rather than Asperger’s."
She added that those diagnosed with Asperger’s tend to focus on rules and be very law-abiding.
Experts are ruling out the connection between the Asperger’s syndrome and the violence."

"Living with a 20-year old with Asperger's isn't a cake walk."
How many 20-year old young adults with Asperger's have you lived with? lol, j/k, you were too, right?

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