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Yeah, and over in the Immigration thread they're all like, "We'll just pay Americans what is a higher, fair wage and they'll work the fields in place of all the immigrants."
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You know thats bs just like I do. Crops go to waste because Americans won't work the fields for 10 bucks an hr. I watched a special about all the food wasted because the farmers can't get help...wth...And the only ppl who will work are the immigrants..

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You know thats bs just like I do. Crops go to waste because Americans won't work the fields for 10 bucks an hr. I watched a special about all the food wasted because the farmers can't get help...wth...And the only ppl who will work are the immigrants..
Don't get me started, lol. I dig how they have double standards for everything. "Kick out all the immigrants - well except for my ancestors."

My GF grew up in a migrant farming community - so I have somewhat a stake in this.

I had no idea how these people lived until I met her. She never knew what it was like to go to the same school two years in a row. A truly amazing and very humbling story.

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Yeah, and over in the Immigration thread they're all like, "We'll just pay Americans what is a higher, fair wage and they'll work the fields in place of all the immigrants."
H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-S
It's a make-believe happy ending CONs use. Blame dayum immigrants, for "taking all the choice jobs from hard-working Americans." Here's what happened in the R W, when Alabama revised their immigration laws:

"Alabama’s tomato farmers are experiencing some of the same problems that Georgia farmers did earlier this year thanks to Alabama’s tough new immigration law, but the author of the law says he’s not willing to change it:

A sponsor of Alabama’s tough new immigration law told desperate tomato farmers Monday that he won’t change the law, even though they told him that their crops are rotting in the field and they are at risk of losing their farms.

Republican state Sen. Scott Beason of Gardendale met with about 50 growers, workers, brokers and business people Monday at a tomato packing shed on Chandler Mountain in northeast Alabama. They complained that the new law, which went into effect Thursday, scared off many of their migrant workers at harvest time.

"The tomatoes are rotting on the vine, and there is very little we can do," said Chad Smith, who farms tomatoes with his uncle, father and brother.

"My position is to stay with the law as it is," Beason told the farmers.

Beason helped write and sponsor a law the Legislature enacted in June to crack down on illegal immigration. It copied portions of laws enacted in Arizona, Georgia and other states, including allowing police to detain people indefinitely if they don’t have legal status. Beason and other proponents said the law would help free up jobs for Alabamians in a state suffering through 9.9 percent unemployment.

The farmers said the some of their workers may have been in the country illegally, but they were the only ones willing to do the work..."

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Don't get me started, lol. I dig how they have double standards for everything. "Kick out all the immigrants - well except for my ancestors."
My GF grew up in a migrant farming community - so I have somewhat a stake in this.
I had no idea how these people lived until I met her. She never knew what it was like to go to the same school two years in a row. A truly amazing and very humbling story.
I bet it is. And the special I watched showed just that. How they would pack up their families and go from state to state and work the farms, live in shacks. It was terrible what they go through to live. Thats why it pisses me off when the R's say they will all be on welfare.

Here in Ohio and where I'm at immigrants come in for crops on these bigger farms around me. Most of them can't even speak English.

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It's a make-believe happy ending CONs use. Blame dayum immigrants, for "taking all the choice jobs from hard-working Americans." Here's what happened in the R W, when Alabama revised their immigration laws:
"Alabama’s tomato farmers are experiencing some of the same problems that Georgia farmers did earlier this year thanks to Alabama’s tough new immigration law, but the author of the law says he’s not willing to change it:
A sponsor of Alabama’s tough new immigration law told desperate tomato farmers Monday that he won’t change the law, even though they told him that their crops are rotting in the field and they are at risk of losing their farms.
Republican state Sen. Scott Beason of Gardendale met with about 50 growers, workers, brokers and business people Monday at a tomato packing shed on Chandler Mountain in northeast Alabama. They complained that the new law, which went into effect Thursday, scared off many of their migrant workers at harvest time.
"The tomatoes are rotting on the vine, and there is very little we can do," said Chad Smith, who farms tomatoes with his uncle, father and brother.
"My position is to stay with the law as it is," Beason told the farmers.
Beason helped write and sponsor a law the Legislature enacted in June to crack down on illegal immigration. It copied portions of laws enacted in Arizona, Georgia and other states, including allowing police to detain people indefinitely if they don’t have legal status. Beason and other proponents said the law would help free up jobs for Alabamians in a state suffering through 9.9 percent unemployment.
The farmers said the some of their workers may have been in the country illegally, but they were the only ones willing to do the work..."
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/alabama-immi...
Thanks Chilli - it's precisely what I've been saying all this time. Americans do not want this work - regardless of how much it pays. The GOP doesn't want to raise the minimum wage let alone increase wages for American farm laborers.

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And Congress doesn't want to pass a min. wage hike saying it will cost jobs when all data says just the opposite...If they paid these ppl a wage they could live on the wouldn't need assistance.
Yeah....that's the point isn't it?

Thanks for liking my post guys.

It's something that's been bothering me.
I know several ppl in local service jobs.
Many of them work at 2 jobs (in different
service jobs) just to pay the rent.
They don't party or do drugs. One of my
neighbors is in her 60s. She works at
Shoneys during the day and makes beds at
a nice hotel in Charleston at night.

She's a nice lady who plants flowers in
her yard and tries to keep her property
looking good.

But even w/2 jobs she still makes so little
that she qualifies for food stamps.

This is what WE have allowed the world to come to.

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Don't get me started, lol. I dig how they have double standards for everything. "Kick out all the immigrants - well except for my ancestors."
My GF grew up in a migrant farming community - so I have somewhat a stake in this.
I had no idea how these people lived until I met her. She never knew what it was like to go to the same school two years in a row. A truly amazing and very humbling story.
Crazy isn't it.

There was a time in America when there
were signs in the windows of businesses that
said: Irish need not apply.

My grandmother is Italian and she is terribly
offended by terms like Wop or Tally b/c when
she was young, and new here, those were the
derogatory terms they uses for her and her family.

Every group of immigrants have been discriminated
against at different times in our history.

Hell, ask the Native Americans about it.

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There is a local saw mill that
hired a group of Mexican workers
a couple of yrs ago.

He built them a bunk house and
if they ever come to town I've
never seen them.

The locals must be giving them
some trouble b/c when we drove by
one day we saw them "sneaking" from
the bunk house to the mill.
Literally sneaking. Ducking from
bush to bush.
We made the comment that they looked
like them were sneaking across the
boarder.

But I've wondered how much the owner
pays them, how well (or not) they
are being treated.

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Yeah....that's the point isn't it?
Thanks for liking my post guys.
It's something that's been bothering me.
I know several ppl in local service jobs.
Many of them work at 2 jobs (in different
service jobs) just to pay the rent.
They don't party or do drugs. One of my
neighbors is in her 60s. She works at
Shoneys during the day and makes beds at
a nice hotel in Charleston at night.
She's a nice lady who plants flowers in
her yard and tries to keep her property
looking good.
But even w/2 jobs she still makes so little
that she qualifies for food stamps.
This is what WE have allowed the world to come to.
Bless her heart and you see more and more of that. Just wait till they cut SS...IT'S GOING TO BE BAD!! Right now Congress wants to gut the Farm Bill which will take away Food Stamps from the elderly and the working poor who need them.

America is a hot mess right now. How sad we help so many in other countries when our own suffers. There has to be a happy medium somehow, somewhere, someplace.

I'm not against helping other countries who need the help but I think the help should be cut in half.

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arctic wrote:
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Crazy isn't it.
There was a time in America when there
were signs in the windows of businesses that
said: Irish need not apply.
My grandmother is Italian and she is terribly
offended by terms like Wop or Tally b/c when
she was young, and new here, those were the
derogatory terms they uses for her and her family.
Every group of immigrants have been discriminated
against at different times in our history.
Hell, ask the Native Americans about it.
My mother's side of the family can be traced to well before the Civil War in this country. My dad's not so much. I only have to go back four generations to trace my ancestry to Germany. Being second generation German during World War II wasn't fun for them - even though two of my uncles landed in Normandy (one parachuted in) and one other we lost in the Pacific. I fought next to all kinds of people from many different walks of life in some of the scariest situations this country has ever seen in war - and not once was there ever any dirogatory words said in passing between us. We were Americans back then - we all were Americans back then.

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Thats why I get so sick of the political bs.

We're all Americans, the riches country in the world and yet we suffer.

Thats why I think they should have terms on Senators etc. Out with the old and in with the new, the ones who really want to help the situation we are in instead of complicate them more and hold hearings on every fart thats let costing millions of dollars that could be used elsewhere.

OMG, don't even get me started!!!

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arctic wrote:
There is a local saw mill that
hired a group of Mexican workers
a couple of yrs ago.
He built them a bunk house and
if they ever come to town I've
never seen them.
The locals must be giving them
some trouble b/c when we drove by
one day we saw them "sneaking" from
the bunk house to the mill.
Literally sneaking. Ducking from
bush to bush.
We made the comment that they looked
like them were sneaking across the
boarder.
But I've wondered how much the owner
pays them, how well (or not) they
are being treated.
Our republican friends would say those amigos are in an ideal situation. If they are unhappy with their pay/situation, they can sneak from bush to bush down the road to find something better. And their wages are tax-free and they are unencumbered by pesky benefits that would cause people to sneer at them for being socialists. Pretty soon 98% of us will live like that! It will be a majority...

Has the mill owner considered a barbed wire fence with guard to- you know- keep the locals from breaking in to work at such wonderful jobs without authorization? Mitt Romney recommends that...

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I'm a rural White Independent voter and yes I count.
I can read and spell and I'm not on Welfare.
Yeah, no kiddin'..
I own my business and a farm.
Oh yes indeed I count!!
You live in a "fly over" rural area. You matter to libs as much as a Porsche does to a pig..... As far as they are concerned you're right out of central casting for Honey Boo-Boo or Call of the Wildman......

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Thats why I get so sick of the political bs.
We're all Americans, the riches country in the world and yet we suffer.
Thats why I think they should have terms on Senators etc. Out with the old and in with the new, the ones who really want to help the situation we are in instead of complicate them more and hold hearings on every fart thats let costing millions of dollars that could be used elsewhere.
OMG, don't even get me started!!!
It took an act of Congress and the will of the country to limit the Presidentcy to two terms. Congress will not limit itself. That's why its up to us(US)the voters to limit terms on our elected officials.

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<quoted text>I've written this down as a program to watch, DW. I used to watch PBS all the time and should get back to that. Thanks again!
You should look for these two series of independent film/documentaries: Independent Lens and POV. I believe what I saw was a film in one of these programs.

Maybe can be seen on-line at the PBS.org site.

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It's a make-believe happy ending CONs use. Blame dayum immigrants, for "taking all the choice jobs from hard-working Americans." Here's what happened in the R W, when Alabama revised their immigration laws:
"Alabama’s tomato farmers are experiencing some of the same problems that Georgia farmers did earlier this year thanks to Alabama’s tough new immigration law, but the author of the law says he’s not willing to change it:
A sponsor of Alabama’s tough new immigration law told desperate tomato farmers Monday that he won’t change the law, even though they told him that their crops are rotting in the field and they are at risk of losing their farms.
Republican state Sen. Scott Beason of Gardendale met with about 50 growers, workers, brokers and business people Monday at a tomato packing shed on Chandler Mountain in northeast Alabama. They complained that the new law, which went into effect Thursday, scared off many of their migrant workers at harvest time.
"The tomatoes are rotting on the vine, and there is very little we can do," said Chad Smith, who farms tomatoes with his uncle, father and brother.
"My position is to stay with the law as it is," Beason told the farmers.
Beason helped write and sponsor a law the Legislature enacted in June to crack down on illegal immigration. It copied portions of laws enacted in Arizona, Georgia and other states, including allowing police to detain people indefinitely if they don’t have legal status. Beason and other proponents said the law would help free up jobs for Alabamians in a state suffering through 9.9 percent unemployment.
The farmers said the some of their workers may have been in the country illegally, but they were the only ones willing to do the work..."
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/alabama-immi...
Good post, Chili! An interesting development is the decision just rendered by the SCOTUS regarding AZ immigration law(s), which likely will impact these other states that copied it.

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Chilli J wrote:
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It's a make-believe happy ending CONs use. Blame dayum immigrants, for "taking all the choice jobs from hard-working Americans." Here's what happened in the R W, when Alabama revised their immigration laws:
"Alabama’s tomato farmers are experiencing some of the same problems that Georgia farmers did earlier this year thanks to Alabama’s tough new immigration law, but the author of the law says he’s not willing to change it:
A sponsor of Alabama’s tough new immigration law told desperate tomato farmers Monday that he won’t change the law, even though they told him that their crops are rotting in the field and they are at risk of losing their farms.
Republican state Sen. Scott Beason of Gardendale met with about 50 growers, workers, brokers and business people Monday at a tomato packing shed on Chandler Mountain in northeast Alabama. They complained that the new law, which went into effect Thursday, scared off many of their migrant workers at harvest time.
"The tomatoes are rotting on the vine, and there is very little we can do," said Chad Smith, who farms tomatoes with his uncle, father and brother.
"My position is to stay with the law as it is," Beason told the farmers.
Beason helped write and sponsor a law the Legislature enacted in June to crack down on illegal immigration. It copied portions of laws enacted in Arizona, Georgia and other states, including allowing police to detain people indefinitely if they don’t have legal status. Beason and other proponents said the law would help free up jobs for Alabamians in a state suffering through 9.9 percent unemployment.
The farmers said the some of their workers may have been in the country illegally, but they were the only ones willing to do the work..."
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/alabama-immi...
It is really a shame that some personal differences have overshadowed many points of agreement on political issues between us. I will agree that there are consequences for too strict an immigration law as your examples show. We really need to craft laws that allows those who can positively contribute to our economy while at the same time, I don't believe illegals should be eligible for government benefits.

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Don't get me started, lol. I dig how they have double standards for everything. "Kick out all the immigrants - well except for my ancestors."
My GF grew up in a migrant farming community - so I have somewhat a stake in this.
I had no idea how these people lived until I met her. She never knew what it was like to go to the same school two years in a row. A truly amazing and very humbling story.
My own wife is an immigrant and she has since become an American citizen. Her uncle, an immigrant who became an American Citizen himself, runs a travel agency that employs a number of people in the U.S. I almost feel like I can identify with you here.

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You should look for these two series of independent film/documentaries: Independent Lens and POV. I believe what I saw was a film in one of these programs.
Maybe can be seen on-line at the PBS.org site.
Thanks, DW~! I clicked on the link and got all excited again about biographies -I love them! I'm looking forward to the story about the Rockefellers.

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<quoted text> I don't believe illegals should be eligible for government benefits.
That shouldn't even be a consideration yet government sees it differently.
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