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#471 Jul 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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I get your deflection - really I do, so please, please don't repeat it, ok?
So you're not welcome in what establishment? Name one. I said I choose not to frequent some establishments - whether I choose to enter is my own right - and that choice is not based on color. I'm talking about blacks not allowed to enter. It's happened just within the last 40 years at Augusta National Golf Club. And it's just not black people - it's women too. Keep that in mind when you conservatives are crying after the next election. And you have the audacity to actually call the gentleman in the White House, "my boy?" That there is pretty racist in itself - which pretty much explains where your brain is at. But of course, when it is second nature in your vocabulary, you really can't help yourself, can you?
How are they not allowed to enter? What will happen if they do and refuse to leave … same thing that would probably happen to me if I went to certain establishments where white people are not welcome.

Also, please explain to me why the fact that black people are not welcome in certain redneck establishments should cause them to underachieve as a group compared to other racial groups. Do you really believe that dining options cause black men as a group to drop out of high school far more often than other racial groups?
Oh, noes Augusta National doesn’t allow women and men want to have a club just for them. Whaaa, whaaaa, I can’t go to “women’s work out world” either. OMFG … the horror. I think I should pi$s and moan about it. I can’t join a sorority either. Whaa, whaa, whaa!

Oh my! I guess I’m being racist when I say,“I’m going out with my boys”… my buddies. Sorry, dude, I'm not an old man and I don't talk like one.

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#472 Jul 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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When, if ever, is it appropriate to constitute or create organizations, establishments or businesses whose membership is limited by gender, race, sexual orientation, religion or other criteria?
Seems to work for members of “women’s work out world,” the brownies, black only fraternities, national associate of women MBA’s … I could go on and on.

What about black only scholarships. Have a white only scholarship and you are racist.

What about this:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/10/student-...

Generally I frown upon it, but it happens all the time. I think it’s more problematic in the context of race, but there seems to be a clear double standard (okay for black only groups, but not okay for white only groups)

In terms of men's only, sorry, sometimes men just want to be around other men, not around women and have a club for themselves (I mean maybe you wanna jokingly call a woman a b1tch and not risk having some chick fly off the handle at ya and say how dare you disrespect all women on the earth by calling one of us a b1tch). I see nothing wrong with a private club making that decision.

No different with fraternities and sororities. I can’t join a sorority … even a really prestigious one that could possibly advance my career because it has a lot of former members who are successful in life. I don’t cry about it. Sometimes women, wanna just be other women and gasp, sometimes men, just wanna hang with the boys and not have to mind our Ps and Qs.

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#473 Jul 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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And lastly, it's not discrimination by a college if you can't pass the entrance exam. Even a primarily black college such as Grambling State has open enrollment to all races - even white - imagine that.
Disingenuous … many colleges and graduate schools give you extra admission points if you are not white or Asian. Fact. That’s discrimination. That type of discrimination also directly hurts your chances of success in life, especially at most prestigious institutions.

You’ve got that on one hand, i.e. stuff directly related to your ability to make a living and stuff directly related to your resume, then you’ve got what you like to mention … some rare redneck bus driver with a confederate flag sticker and not being welcome in the rare Hillbilly restaurant.

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#474 Jul 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Lol...you said it dude, not me - take your foot out of your mouth and speak next time.
I said what? That I liked a band where the guy died from drugs? BFD, I like Jimmy Hendrix too and many other bands with members who did and died from drugs. The only one who seems to think there is a problem with this or this is something to be ashamed of, is YOU.

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#475 Jul 1, 2013
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One last thing before you self-implode...give me a list of allies that we're spying on.
Please refrain from posting YouTube links and blogs - they're almost as worthless as your posts.
All of our European Allies:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/01...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/30/us-s...

They really needed to bug the EU headquarters because of terrorism, just like they need to monitor everything American's do because of terrorism...

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#476 Jul 1, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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How are they not allowed to enter? What will happen if they do and refuse to leave … same thing that would probably happen to me if I went to certain establishments where white people are not welcome.
Also, please explain to me why the fact that black people are not welcome in certain redneck establishments should cause them to underachieve as a group compared to other racial groups. Do you really believe that dining options cause black men as a group to drop out of high school far more often than other racial groups?
Oh, noes Augusta National doesn’t allow women and men want to have a club just for them. Whaaa, whaaaa, I can’t go to “women’s work out world” either. OMFG … the horror. I think I should pi$s and moan about it. I can’t join a sorority either. Whaa, whaa, whaa!
Oh my! I guess I’m being racist when I say,“I’m going out with my boys”… my buddies. Sorry, dude, I'm not an old man and I don't talk like one.
As always, you're like chasing a herd of cats.

What you say to your 16-year old white-only friends is 100% your own business. Bein' all badass and gangsta' and sh*t. LMFGDAO...

I asked you a couple simple questions that you refuse to answer.

Do me a favor and post on your own from now on - remain racist and clueless all by yourself.

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#477 Jul 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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You're comparing Sublime to Zepplin and the Stones?
Dude, Sublime was two albums shy of being a one hit wonder - they sucked!!!
No, I'm ridiculing your for attempting to ridicule me for liking a band where the members used drugs. Many bands, including the ones I mentioned have had members who used drugs. You're reading comprehension sux.

In terms of music taste, different strokes for different folks. I'm not an old man, like you.

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#478 Jul 1, 2013
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Seems to work for members of “women’s work out world,” the brownies, black only fraternities, national associate of women MBA’s … I could go on and on.
What about black only scholarships. Have a white only scholarship and you are racist.
What about this:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/10/student-...
Generally I frown upon it, but it happens all the time. I think it’s more problematic in the context of race, but there seems to be a clear double standard (okay for black only groups, but not okay for white only groups)
In terms of men's only, sorry, sometimes men just want to be around other men, not around women and have a club for themselves (I mean maybe you wanna jokingly call a woman a b1tch and not risk having some chick fly off the handle at ya and say how dare you disrespect all women on the earth by calling one of us a b1tch). I see nothing wrong with a private club making that decision.
No different with fraternities and sororities. I can’t join a sorority … even a really prestigious one that could possibly advance my career because it has a lot of former members who are successful in life. I don’t cry about it. Sometimes women, wanna just be other women and gasp, sometimes men, just wanna hang with the boys and not have to mind our Ps and Qs.
The big difference is, Einstien, it says "women's" club - not Augusta Nation Golf Club.

Even my 13 year-old grandson here realized that.

A fraternity (Latin frater: "brother") is a brotherhood.

Sorority from the Latin word soror, meaning "sister".

It...is...in...the...name.

You can't possibly be this ignorant in real life can you?

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#479 Jul 1, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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All of our European Allies:
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/01...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/30/us-s...
They really needed to bug the EU headquarters because of terrorism, just like they need to monitor everything American's do because of terrorism...
Actually, the article (if you actually read it) said:

"If it is confirmed that diplomatic representations of the European Union and individual European countries have been spied upon, we will clearly say that bugging friends is unacceptable," said Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesman, Steffen Seibert. "We are no longer in the Cold War."

And this...

"Meanwhile, the leader of Germany's opposition Greens suggested that Europe provide a safe haven for former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, who revealed the extent of U.S. surveillance programs."

If it is true...lol

Nowhere in it did it say we have unequivocally spied on any European allies - Edward the Traitor did - to protect his own a$$.

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#480 Jul 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>What you say to your 16-year old white-only friends is 100% your own business. Bein' all badass and gangsta' and sh*t. LMFGDAO...
You don’t know anything about my friends or what race they are. So stop pretending you do. I currently have and have had in the past friends and family from all socio-economic backgrounds and many different racial groups.

Weren’t you the one who had a headline awhile ago that said something to the effect that “I wanted to be a gangster since I was a kid.”
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>I asked you a couple simple questions that you refuse to answer.
What questions have you asked me that I refused to answer?
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>Do me a favor and post on your own from now on - remain racist and clueless all by yourself.
Ah, yes, the old race baitin’ card. That’s what you bleeding hearts like to play when logic smacks you upside the head and in response thereto, you can’t present a coherent argument or justify the programs you advocate. You being dumb, doesn't make me racist.

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#481 Jul 1, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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I'm not an old man, like you.
Which may be true - afterall, I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.

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#482 Jul 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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The big difference is, Einstien, it says "women's" club - not Augusta Nation Golf Club.
Even my 13 year-old grandson here realized that.
A fraternity (Latin frater: "brother") is a brotherhood.
Sorority from the Latin word soror, meaning "sister".
It...is...in...the...name.
You can't possibly be this ignorant in real life can you?
Oh really! So you just don't like the name. You feel it is deceptive advertising and you would quit pi$sing and moaning, if it was called "Augusta National MEN'S Golf Club? ROFLMAO. This conversation just took a left on Absurd street, courtesy of you.

Stop being ridiculous. It has nothing to do with the name and nothing outside of accepting women would make you and feminist groups happy.

Sorry, I think men should be able to have their own social clubs, just like women should be able to have their own social clubs. Equality baby.

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#483 Jul 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Actually, the article (if you actually read it) said:
"If it is confirmed that diplomatic representations of the European Union and individual European countries have been spied upon, we will clearly say that bugging friends is unacceptable," said Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesman, Steffen Seibert. "We are no longer in the Cold War."
And this...
"Meanwhile, the leader of Germany's opposition Greens suggested that Europe provide a safe haven for former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, who revealed the extent of U.S. surveillance programs."
If it is true...lol
Nowhere in it did it say we have unequivocally spied on any European allies - Edward the Traitor did - to protect his own a$$.
Oh, you want me to post an article where the Obama administration admits that we spied on them. Here you go:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/52364927/#.UdHKJ5zY...

Enjoy your crow.

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#484 Jul 1, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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Oh, you want me to post an article where the Obama administration admits that we spied on them. Here you go:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/52364927/#.UdHKJ5zY...
Enjoy your crow.
"The latest revelations were attributed in part to information supplied by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden. Obama on Monday also said the U.S. has held "high-level" discussions with Russians to get Snowden out of a Moscow airport and back to the United States to face criminal charges."

Yeah - and none of the information "supplied by Edward Snowden" has been confirmed as factual.

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#485 Jul 1, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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Oh really! So you just don't like the name. You feel it is deceptive advertising and you would quit pi$sing and moaning, if it was called "Augusta National MEN'S Golf Club? ROFLMAO. This conversation just took a left on Absurd street, courtesy of you.
Stop being ridiculous. It has nothing to do with the name and nothing outside of accepting women would make you and feminist groups happy.
Sorry, I think men should be able to have their own social clubs, just like women should be able to have their own social clubs. Equality baby.
But it's not - it's August National Golf Club. And it still was Augusta National Golf Course. The golf club's exclusive membership policies have drawn criticism, particularly its refusal to admit black members until 1990, a former policy requiring all caddies to be black and its refusal to allow women to join. In August 2012, it admitted its first two female members, Condoleezza Rice and Darla Moore.

If that's not a perfect example of some good ol' conservaturds trying to buy the women's and black vote in Georgia, I don't know what is.

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#486 Jul 1, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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You don’t know anything about my friends or what race they are. So stop pretending you do. I currently have and have had in the past friends and family from all socio-economic backgrounds and many different racial groups.
Weren’t you the one who had a headline awhile ago that said something to the effect that “I wanted to be a gangster since I was a kid.”
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What questions have you asked me that I refused to answer?
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Ah, yes, the old race baitin’ card. That’s what you bleeding hearts like to play when logic smacks you upside the head and in response thereto, you can’t present a coherent argument or justify the programs you advocate. You being dumb, doesn't make me racist.
Lol...you sound just like George Castanza on Seinfeld when he was trying to convince everyone he had lots of black friends.

It's a quote from the movie "Goodfellas." Nope - that makes you dumb and racist.

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#487 Jul 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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"The latest revelations were attributed in part to information supplied by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden. Obama on Monday also said the U.S. has held "high-level" discussions with Russians to get Snowden out of a Moscow airport and back to the United States to face criminal charges."
Yeah - and none of the information "supplied by Edward Snowden" has been confirmed as factual.
John Kerry said that we bugged 38 foreign embassies...... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-23518...

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#488 Jul 1, 2013
Billy R wrote:
<quoted text>John Kerry said that we bugged 38 foreign embassies...... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-23518...
Speaking to a press conference today, Kerry said:'I will say that every country in the world that is engaged in international affairs and national security undertakes lots of activities to protect its national security and all kinds of information contributes to that. All I know is that is not unusual for lots of nations.'

The extraordinary statement has angered leaders across the world after leaked documents revealed America spied on 38 foreign missions and embassies including the European Union's Washington nerve centre.

John Kerry did not say that - neither did Obama.

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#489 Jul 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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"The latest revelations were attributed in part to information supplied by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden. Obama on Monday also said the U.S. has held "high-level" discussions with Russians to get Snowden out of a Moscow airport and back to the United States to face criminal charges."
Yeah - and none of the information "supplied by Edward Snowden" has been confirmed as factual.
Any comment on the fact that Obama has requested that the Russians supply 15,000 troops to quell disorder in the USA? http://www.eutimes.net/2013/06/obama-requests...

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#490 Jul 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Speaking to a press conference today, Kerry said:'I will say that every country in the world that is engaged in international affairs and national security undertakes lots of activities to protect its national security and all kinds of information contributes to that. All I know is that is not unusual for lots of nations.'
The extraordinary statement has angered leaders across the world after leaked documents revealed America spied on 38 foreign missions and embassies including the European Union's Washington nerve centre.
John Kerry did not say that - neither did Obama.
So, "Everybody does it" isn't an admission of guilt?

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