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#19071 Nov 23, 2012
Grace Nerissa wrote:
Now that the subject is up re charity
and kind feeling for our fellow man -
would like opinions on the
*Christmas Extravaganza*
and what it has turned out to be... in 2012:
I sometimes feel [here, at any rate]
[
and I'm not AT ALL eluding to Boomer and his
very good deed.]
At high emotional points of the year,
people come into their own, with charity events;
a need to seek folks out and feed them, help them
give them gifts etc -
whereas at all other times of year
these folks just don't seem to matter
as much
they disappear, into the underworld.
I KNOW none of us can care for EVERYONE
*all year round* but, to me
there us a falseness in running about
underprivileged folks at CHRISTMAS
prying them with clothes and gifts
simply because it's Christmas -
and not caring as much -
all year round as to
where they disappear to after that.
I have a real problem with that,
I prefer 'continuity'
It's also like
[and please, don't think I'm nuts for
saying this, but it's *really* genuinely how 'I' feel]
On morning radio,
the presenter made a quip when advertising
the up & coming topics on his radio show.
1.
'We will be discussing the economy:
2:
Inexpensive gifts for Christmas
3:
We will be visiting DEATH ROW
and looking at the most suitable candidates
for Christmas dinner:
Sorry, but, as a vegetarian, the callous humor of no 3..
fell harsh on my ears. harsh indeed.
This is a great thread for fine intelligent
discussion.
I'd love more views on this whole subject
of CHRISTMAS.. and all that entails.
Thanks
and wishing everyone of our regulars here
a contented weekend:
Very good points you make Grace...if I can put in my two pennorth!

It seems to me that holiday times are the times it hits hardest when one is alone/homeless. To have a family reach out and make them feel part of it can make the difference between hope and despair, not just the meal, but the act of kindness and the company.

Help is everywhere for all other times, perhaps it has to be sought, but it's there. Charity shops, collections of food in
stores, shelters providing accomodation..and etc. I know you
do your bit by contributing to the charity shops, as I do...
I wouldn't mind betting that most people here do, I know FLOWER does.
So in answer, we CAN help all year round in actual fact.

As for the presenter's remark...totally unecessary and absolutely thoughtless. I can understand how you feel.
Here is one good thing his harsh and thoughtless words have brought about....no turkey for us this Christmas Grace! I mean it.
He may have done more good than harm.

Have a good day my friend, calmer day here at least, than yesterday, the lake burst it banks last night!

“Daffodil time once more”

Since: Jun 06

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#19072 Nov 23, 2012
tallyho wrote:
good morning all nice day to shop
'Morning Sir Tally..hope you get some bargains this Black Friday.
I have my eye on one or two things on amazon.

“ain't she sweet?”

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Since: Nov 10

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#19073 Nov 23, 2012
franko wrote:
<quoted text>even as a kid I did not like parades ...
Really? We used to always watch Macy's.

“Truth + context + perspective”

Since: Nov 09

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#19074 Nov 23, 2012
Good and fine Friday wishes Kitchen-eers.

After a warm 65F high temp on Thanksgiving Day, my part of the world starts a steep slide to pre-winter clime (by calendar). This day finds the temp dropping as time ticks -- blustery gusts prevail. Days when the temps fall instead of increasing ... well, it just ain't right!!

Tomorrow and several subsequent days hovering above and below 40F with a "wintery mix" forecast for Monday and/or Tuesday.

My darling daughter has scheduled a wedding dress fitting (the big day is next September) for late afternoon on this Black Friday, with a travel of approx. 50 miles involving parts of two cities' shopping areas. I'm to be part of the retinue for the occasion.

I'm doomed.:)

“ain't she sweet?”

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Since: Nov 10

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#19075 Nov 23, 2012
Grace Nerissa wrote:
Now that the subject is up re charity
and kind feeling for our fellow man -
would like opinions on the

*Christmas Extravaganza*
and what it has turned out to be... in 2012:

I sometimes feel [here, at any rate]
[
and I'm not AT ALL eluding to Boomer and his
very good deed.]

At high emotional points of the year,
people come into their own, with charity events;
a need to seek folks out and feed them, help them
give them gifts etc -

whereas at all other times of year
these folks just don't seem to matter
as much
they disappear, into the underworld.

I KNOW none of us can care for EVERYONE
*all year round* but, to me
there us a falseness in running about
underprivileged folks at CHRISTMAS
prying them with clothes and gifts
simply because it's Christmas -
and not caring as much -

all year round as to
where they disappear to after that.

I have a real problem with that,
I prefer 'continuity'

It's also like
[and please, don't think I'm nuts for
saying this, but it's *really* genuinely how 'I' feel]

On morning radio,
the presenter made a quip when advertising
the up & coming topics on his radio show.

1.
'We will be discussing the economy:

2:
Inexpensive gifts for Christmas

3:
We will be visiting DEATH ROW
and looking at the most suitable candidates
for Christmas dinner:

Sorry, but, as a vegetarian, the callous humor of no 3..
fell harsh on my ears. harsh indeed.

This is a great thread for fine intelligent
discussion.

I'd love more views on this whole subject
of CHRISTMAS.. and all that entails.

Thanks

and wishing everyone of our regulars here
a contented weekend:
I tend to agree. By the same token it could also be that the regular folks do "give" year round but no one makes a big deal except this time of year. The company I work for is fundraising and giving all the time and doesn't brag about it.

In this day & age there's always a food pantry or soup kitchen to partner with and organizations that accept clothing or toys.

“Truth + context + perspective”

Since: Nov 09

informs against BS

#19076 Nov 23, 2012
RMQuinn37 wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? We used to always watch Macy's.
My parade appreciation diminished greatly by the time I was 12-13 too. But in later years, would view with my girl friends then a wife (either/or).

Before CBS went to soley broadcasting the Thanksgiving Day Parade in NYC, they would have coverage of at least 3 parades (4?)-- with time for Philadelphia promoting Wanamaker's dept. store and Detroit promoting Hudson's dept. store. I can't remember if Chicago was in the mix. I guess that would be promoted by Marshall Field's back then, right?

NBC network must have the rights to call their time "Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade". I didn't care for all of the time devoted to performances in front of Macy's Dept. Store, instead of more of the parade.

“Happy Birthday”

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Since: Dec 06

#19077 Nov 23, 2012
In reply to El and RM's posts,

Yes to a certain degree,

and we all do 'our bit' in different ways,
and not always in the spotlight..
and indeed that is welcome..

but, at Christmas time, at least it seems to me,
there is 'over kill'
Santa appearing everywhere,
visiting hospitals with a sackful of
toys, kind of superficial,
but then again,

if one sees it through a child's eyes,
it can be altogether different,

perhaps, through a child's eyes,

'I remember when I was 4 and ill in hospital
and Santa came to visit me'

and that is a very lovely memory to hold on to.

El,
I was chuffed with your line about
'no turkey for Christmas'
what a blessed thought.

“Truth + context + perspective”

Since: Nov 09

informs against BS

#19078 Nov 23, 2012
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure I would...I enjoy documentaries, to a point, and am interested in the Native American as I am the original inhabitants of all countries. I firmly believe 'civilisation' has spoilt a lot that was here before...way of life..medicines..the family....
I will look out for it Cuz, you never know, it could be repeated.
I honestly don't know whether or not I would approve of women bishops. I am all for fair play, equality and all that, but I
have no time for the Church as it stands...I find it too dictatorial. God forgive me!
Welp! I discovered that said documentary was repeated on that channel in evening viewing. Since the football game was competitive, I re-watched with full attention.

duh@me -- this particular film wasn't about Mohawks in the U.S., but of Kahnawake Mohawks of Quebec, Canada. And the film focused on women and family dynamics and situations evolving from the 20's in Quebec with emphasis on the 40s through 70s in Quebec and in Brooklyn.

Folks from this reserve/town in Quebec have been "studied" over time.

http://www.pbs.org/programs/brooklyn-and-back...

http://brooklynhistory.org/blog/2011/03/14/hi...

http://ca.picclick.com/1952-magazine-article-...

Have no idea if the film I saw is on YouTube. Since I don't YouTube, I rarely take a link from there.

“Truth + context + perspective”

Since: Nov 09

informs against BS

#19079 Nov 23, 2012
^^^^ er, the football game was NOT competitive; and, film also discussed the Mohawks and place in Brooklyn and iron working beyond the 70s.

“Truth + context + perspective”

Since: Nov 09

informs against BS

#19080 Nov 23, 2012
Grace Nerissa wrote:
In reply to El and RM's posts,
Yes to a certain degree,
and we all do 'our bit' in different ways,
and not always in the spotlight..
and indeed that is welcome..
but, at Christmas time, at least it seems to me,
there is 'over kill'
Santa appearing everywhere,
visiting hospitals with a sackful of
toys, kind of superficial,
but then again,
if one sees it through a child's eyes,
it can be altogether different,
perhaps, through a child's eyes,
'I remember when I was 4 and ill in hospital
and Santa came to visit me'
and that is a very lovely memory to hold on to.
El,
I was chuffed with your line about
'no turkey for Christmas'
what a blessed thought.
"if one sees it through a child's eyes," which is key to Christmas charity that I perceive.

The "big deal" seems to be to make sure every child has a Christmas in my area.

For Thanksgiving, food drives to make sure everyone has a Thanksgiving turkey and the rest that goes with it.

But true.... with food pantries (and there are difficulties there in the last few years as the economy struggles) and other charity events 'round the year happen with some fanfare or little fanfare.

“Truth + context + perspective”

Since: Nov 09

informs against BS

#19081 Nov 23, 2012
franko wrote:
<quoted text>I should hope you have a colour TV in this day and age.
:)... I do.

My dad being frugal had not bought a color TV by the time I left the house. To view color TV, I would have to at friends or at my girl friend's house. Even when his console TV quit later on when I was on to my life, he bought a black-and-white portable for replacement.

I bought him a color TV a bit later when I sensed he wouldn't fuss much about it.

But the reason I use the term ... it's an homage to a posting buddy on Yahoo! message boards when I plied them. A witty fellow with a unique humor. For some reason he would use the term with mixing up the cases of the characters. I often mix them too, but sometimes don't.

He disappeared from the forum boards and it was subsequently learned he had passed from a cancer. He was in his 50s.

“Daffodil time once more”

Since: Jun 06

Location hidden

#19082 Nov 23, 2012
Grace Nerissa wrote:
In reply to El and RM's posts,
Yes to a certain degree,
and we all do 'our bit' in different ways,
and not always in the spotlight..
and indeed that is welcome..
but, at Christmas time, at least it seems to me,
there is 'over kill'
Santa appearing everywhere,
visiting hospitals with a sackful of
toys, kind of superficial,
but then again,
if one sees it through a child's eyes,
it can be altogether different,
perhaps, through a child's eyes,
'I remember when I was 4 and ill in hospital
and Santa came to visit me'
and that is a very lovely memory to hold on to.
El,
I was chuffed with your line about
'no turkey for Christmas'
what a blessed thought.
"if one sees it through a child's eyes",

Grace...in turn, a question for yourself..

and/or any other who would be kind enough to give me their
opinion on what it now means.

How do children see Christmas in this day and age?

'no turkey for Christmas'

Not said lightly and not a spur of the moment decision,
but spurred on by that moronic remark!

“Daffodil time once more”

Since: Jun 06

Location hidden

#19083 Nov 23, 2012
Deer Whisperer wrote:
<quoted text>
Welp! I discovered that said documentary was repeated on that channel in evening viewing. Since the football game was competitive, I re-watched with full attention.
duh@me -- this particular film wasn't about Mohawks in the U.S., but of Kahnawake Mohawks of Quebec, Canada. And the film focused on women and family dynamics and situations evolving from the 20's in Quebec with emphasis on the 40s through 70s in Quebec and in Brooklyn.
Folks from this reserve/town in Quebec have been "studied" over time.
http://www.pbs.org/programs/brooklyn-and-back...
http://brooklynhistory.org/blog/2011/03/14/hi...
http://ca.picclick.com/1952-magazine-article-...
Have no idea if the film I saw is on YouTube. Since I don't YouTube, I rarely take a link from there.
Browsed these links, and I say it again, you provide the most
interesting links, how VERY interesting, I love architecture
and that depicted in the second link is superb, the history
behind it as well.
I once had a friend in Brooklyn....every Easter I put his card
sent to me from there, on the mantlepiece. The nicest person
I ever met.
Reminiscing again....
One thing, I could not open any videos unfortunately, I have a problem doing so....loved reading about the ancestral links.

“Truth + context + perspective”

Since: Nov 09

informs against BS

#19084 Nov 23, 2012
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>
Browsed these links, and I say it again, you provide the most
interesting links, how VERY interesting, I love architecture
and that depicted in the second link is superb, the history
behind it as well.
I once had a friend in Brooklyn....every Easter I put his card
sent to me from there, on the mantlepiece. The nicest person
I ever met.
Reminiscing again....
One thing, I could not open any videos unfortunately, I have a problem doing so....loved reading about the ancestral links.
Sorry about the links that don't work. From dial-up access, I eschew YouTube and other video links. I don't even give a think about video links included in articles and ignore them "by default", and forget about some links not traveling well across borders anyway.

Thanks for your comment and glad you enjoy my contributions.

“Truth + context + perspective”

Since: Nov 09

informs against BS

#19085 Nov 23, 2012
Would love to stay and play, but must get on with my day!

Happy Friday Trails, Kitchen-eers!

“Don't Tread on Me!”

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Since: Apr 10

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#19086 Nov 23, 2012
eleanorigby wrote:
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL WHO VISIT THE KITCHEN
However lavish, however simple you spend the
day, you have love from El's Kitchen.
http://www.jacquielawson.com/preview.asp...
What a lovely little card that is, thank you for sharing.

“Daffodil time once more”

Since: Jun 06

Location hidden

#19087 Nov 23, 2012
Deer Whisperer wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry about the links that don't work. From dial-up access, I eschew YouTube and other video links. I don't even give a think about video links included in articles and ignore them "by default", and forget about some links not traveling well across borders anyway.
Thanks for your comment and glad you enjoy my contributions.
Not your fault, lol. I installed a firewall and since then it has been downhill.

Not only your links are enjoyed Cuz Luke, but your company.....

Pitch black here now, but a clear sky and an almost full moon...in for a frosty night. Cosy enough indoors, am about to start dinner now, or tea as we called it in Lancashire. We were late in getting a tv period, all the girls at school would be singing the jingles...except for me...awwww! Any big events we would listen to on the radio, or in the case of when I was on the telly, we watched at a neighbours...highly embarrassing! haha

Have a nice weekend Cuz Luke...

Nice weekend Everyone....stay safe.
Grace Nerissa

Ireland

#19088 Nov 23, 2012
WARNING E
you're watching SKY NEWS
beware- just saw an item
an elderly elephant belonging to a
circus having been chained kicked and
beaten- the tears ran do wn my face.

The owner was taken to
court got off very lightly
NOT even prevented from owning animals ifuture!
WHAT the 'ell is wrong with them?

a very good woman oztside the court
from animal protection went mad angry
with the outcome
The gentle creature was taken away go
pastures new & doing well with cafe and freedom

i was so upset over this

(will answer your other post later)
Grace Nerissa

Ireland

#19089 Nov 23, 2012
Excuse typos above
it should be

'El if you are watching SKY NEWS'

“Grab all the good”

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Since: Jul 10

Rowlett Tx

#19090 Nov 23, 2012
Grace Nerissa wrote:
Excuse typos above
it should be
'El if you are watching SKY NEWS'
Good morning Grace and El and all my friends here. In the US they have what they call black Friday. The day after Thanksgiving they open at 5:00 in the morning with huge mark downs that only are good for a few hours. A few years ago people were trampled to death as the doors opened :(

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