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“Denny Crain”

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#32169 Jan 7, 2014
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Denny...I keep hearing about the vortex...I haven't a clue what they are talking about.
Since before mankind the earth has shifted...it is Nature, with man having a hand in it
as well.
I just pity those affected.
The climate has changed on the other planets too. No doubt it is our fault :) The sun is the reason for climate change or at least the major reason. It is true we have more co2 than ever but that doesn't relate to climate change. It has been both warmer and colder in the past. What is the proper temperature?????My friends in England are concerned with global warming. What would be the effect of a warmer England? A longer growing season and milder winter. Oh no!

“Denny Crain”

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#32170 Jan 7, 2014
450 million years ago there was 60% more oxygen in the air. The result was super size everything. You had toads as big as alligators. God bless higher co2 levels :) What is so funny is all the hype about solar energy. Now there are places that make perfect sense to use solar power but England isn't one of them. Were I hunt in Dumas there are lots of huge wind mills and they produce a great deal of energy and that is because it is a windy place. The bad thing is they kill lots of birds . I am for using all kinds of energy be it coal or wind or sun
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#32171 Jan 7, 2014
franko wrote:
<quoted text>Most of Canada is afflcited with the same issues as the USA ... in fact, a bit worse since we are further north .... thankfully the west side of the Rocky mountains (my area) is relatively unscathed in the southern half.
ever been to Ocean Falls?
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#32172 Jan 7, 2014
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
450 million years ago there was 60% more oxygen in the air. The result was super size everything. You had toads as big as alligators. God bless higher co2 levels :) What is so funny is all the hype about solar energy. Now there are places that make perfect sense to use solar power but England isn't one of them. Were I hunt in Dumas there are lots of huge wind mills and they produce a great deal of energy and that is because it is a windy place. The bad thing is they kill lots of birds . I am for using all kinds of energy be it coal or wind or sun
I am building a vertical axis low speed high torque for running electric heat, 2000 watts, no battery storage, no selling power back to the power company, no no big expense, the biggest cost was the alternator made for a semi,$180, looks like it will be under $500,I expect to get $800 in heat savings a year

the only time it won't work is when the wind stops obviously but that is rare here in the winter and the cheapest time to heat conventional, will need a total of three to heat the garage and keep fish rgowing

“Denny Crain”

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#32173 Jan 7, 2014
I have noticed there is an extreme difference in the way Republicans and Democrats think. On Fox news you can now go on line during one of their programs. You identify yourself as Democrat or independent or Republic and you can so you agree or disagree with what is being said. The Independent and Republican line almost match with the line showing a smooth change going up and down while the Democrat line has very sharp up and down changes. To me this said they rely on emotion and not logic. What do you think?

“Denny Crain”

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#32174 Jan 7, 2014
El please check this out. I found it very interesting on climate change

“guess who Lois?”

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Since: Dec 06

A little hole in the wall.

#32175 Jan 7, 2014
Grace Nerissa wrote:
Well, yesterday didn't go according to
the cinema plan I had outlined!
We had gale force winds and a major power cut,
back to candles and fires,
couldn't be bothered fooling about the kitchen
trying to make a meal in the dark, so I
went out and treated myself:) and got Ali a treat too!!
Wishing one and all a pleasant winter's day..
one can't live on Beer or Guiness though (that is what yuo meant by a treat?)

“guess who Lois?”

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Since: Dec 06

A little hole in the wall.

#32176 Jan 7, 2014
Grace Nerissa wrote:
<quoted text>
Saw that in last night's news too, awful weather,
the wind chill is dangerous and seemingly, folks can only
stay out in it for short periods.
Definitely global warming
would you say???
Thanks for your others post too Franko,
how kind of you to say.
fortunatley most of our citizens are used to extreme cold so we handle it better than those who only get that once in a blue moon. I laugh when I see Vancouverites freaking out over 6 inches of snow!!! On the day the snow falls, the tire shops are all busy with people buying decent winter tires. WHy not get them a month earlier, when you KNOW winter is coming? LOL!!!

Yep, if you have no gloves, or cheap thin gloves, in -40 weather, you can get frostbite in less than 10 minutes. Or if your boots are not insulated enough frostbite of the toes in less than15 minutes ...

“guess who Lois?”

Level 7

Since: Dec 06

A little hole in the wall.

#32177 Jan 7, 2014
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>The climate has changed on the other planets too. No doubt it is our fault :) The sun is the reason for climate change or at least the major reason. It is true we have more co2 than ever but that doesn't relate to climate change. It has been both warmer and colder in the past. What is the proper temperature?????My friends in England are concerned with global warming. What would be the effect of a warmer England? A longer growing season and milder winter. Oh no!
the ultimate effect of log term warmer temperatures will be a raising of the ocean levels ... which means that miliions of square miles of land would be flooded, worth trillions of dollars .. and where will the owners of that land go? They can't sell it since it will be worthless ....

And yes, archaelogical records prove that ocean levels have been at least 30 feet higher in the past .... also during ice ages, water was around 150-200 feet lower!!!!

most of manhatten would be 10 to 20 feet underwater ...

London would also have extensive flooding.

Half of the Netherlands wold be gone, unless they build those dykes 40 feet higher ....

“guess who Lois?”

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Since: Dec 06

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#32178 Jan 7, 2014
LOST IN MISSISSIPPI wrote:
<quoted text>ever been to Ocean Falls?
no I haven't .. what province or state is that in?

“guess who Lois?”

Level 7

Since: Dec 06

A little hole in the wall.

#32179 Jan 7, 2014
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
I have noticed there is an extreme difference in the way Republicans and Democrats think. On Fox news you can now go on line during one of their programs. You identify yourself as Democrat or independent or Republic and you can so you agree or disagree with what is being said. The Independent and Republican line almost match with the line showing a smooth change going up and down while the Democrat line has very sharp up and down changes. To me this said they rely on emotion and not logic. What do you think?
no, I think it means that republicans all think like republicans, and therefore have a similar opinion to other republicans on a given story, whereas non-republicans will agree or disagree based more on independant thought .... they are more open to looking at things, not like a republican or liberal, but as an independant person who has their OWN opinion..

“guess who Lois?”

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Since: Dec 06

A little hole in the wall.

#32180 Jan 7, 2014
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
I have noticed there is an extreme difference in the way Republicans and Democrats think. On Fox news you can now go on line during one of their programs. You identify yourself as Democrat or independent or Republic and you can so you agree or disagree with what is being said. The Independent and Republican line almost match with the line showing a smooth change going up and down while the Democrat line has very sharp up and down changes. To me this said they rely on emotion and not logic. What do you think?
Denny, my last comment is not meat as a slight against Republicans .... my opinion is based on my conversations with hundreds of people over the years ... I find that liberal people are more likley to have a wider range of differing opinoins on the same topic. I find that Republicans are more consistent with each other. Each approach has both pros and cons.

Watch the conversatoins at a party with a mix of both types .... you will hear more arguing of different opinions amongst the liberal groups, and more concensus amongst the republican groups.


A naiton of republicans will be more on the same page and therefore get to a concensus more often and more easily. A nation run by liberals will take longer to come to a concensus because of the wide divergence of opinions. HOwever, that approach can be advantage because the end result will have been more thoroughly examined for flaws, and the end result may be deigned to satisfy a wider range of peoples needs.

the wise politicians of the past designed democratic governments to have an opposition side that can affect votes in the legislature in order to prevent "groupthink" politics which might not take itno account the needs of everyone.

This was actually a backlash against the old monarchies, which took into account mostly the opinions of the elite and thought little of the needs of the peasants, despite them being the majority.(eg. Marie Antoinette "let them eat cake"!)....

“Towards Spring”

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#32181 Jan 7, 2014
franko wrote:
<quoted text>fortunatley most of our citizens are used to extreme cold so we handle it better than those who only get that once in a blue moon. I laugh when I see Vancouverites freaking out over 6 inches of snow!!! On the day the snow falls, the tire shops are all busy with people buying decent winter tires. WHy not get them a month earlier, when you KNOW winter is coming? LOL!!!
Yep, if you have no gloves, or cheap thin gloves, in -40 weather, you can get frostbite in less than 10 minutes. Or if your boots are not insulated enough frostbite of the toes in less than15 minutes ...
Point taken -

Regarding - your quote> 'on the day snow falls, the tyre shops are full of people buying
tyres. why not get them earlier'

you ask, Franko >
because folks are creatures of habit, I've seen this kind
of thing repeated 'many times' in other circumstances.

(TYRE spelled differently over here ..
so we're both corect:)

I saw on the news too in this polar snap or whatever its called -
a guy threw a cup of hot water up in the air,
it froze instantly, coming back down .... as snow! WOW! that says it all.

Also, I thought it was lovely to see [in the USA] where
all the homeless unfortunate people were rounded up and brought
indoors, they said it was very overcrowded, but a person in charge suggested
[rightfully] that overcrowding was better than freezing to death!!

I'll say:)

“Towards Spring”

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#32182 Jan 7, 2014
excuse typo/misspelling 'corect should, of course, be > 'correct'

“Towards Spring”

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#32183 Jan 7, 2014
LOST IN MISSISSIPPI wrote:
<quoted text>I am building a vertical axis low speed high torque for running electric heat, 2000 watts, no battery storage, no selling power back to the power company, no no big expense, the biggest cost was the alternator made for a semi,$180, looks like it will be under $500,I expect to get $800 in heat savings a year
the only time it won't work is when the wind stops obviously but that is rare here in the winter and the cheapest time to heat conventional, will need a total of three to heat the garage and keep fish rgowing
Geez, LIM!

If I were a young one again!!

I'd be seriously impressed with your ability
and intelligence,

I'd be looking adoring at you with fluttering eyelashes,
saying .. with pride .. to others present>

"Hey guys!.... That's MY man'

LOL..

“Towards Spring”

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#32184 Jan 7, 2014
'adoringly'
Katz

Bethlehem, PA

#32185 Jan 7, 2014
franko wrote:
<quoted text>not really .. we do song links once in a while ....
Oh ok then here's one.



U2 - Stuck In A Moment You Can't Get Out Of (Lyrics)
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#32186 Jan 7, 2014
franko wrote:
<quoted text>no I haven't .. what province or state is that in?
BC, they call themselves the rain people

shut down pulp mill left massive hydro, buildings and fresh water, the falls on the ocean

tried to get them to set up a breading program to support the endangered golden eye rock fish(yummy), they wanted to hear nothing of it, asked if I was interested in buying their water to bottle in the states, it's an island, on the coast, long boat ride, expensive plane ride, the lack of sun has affected them in a bad way
it is beautiful, just imagine unlimited electric heat
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#32187 Jan 7, 2014
Grace Nerissa wrote:
<quoted text>
Geez, LIM!
If I were a young one again!!
I'd be seriously impressed with your ability
and intelligence,
I'd be looking adoring at you with fluttering eyelashes,
saying .. with pride .. to others present>
"Hey guys!.... That's MY man'
LOL..
ya never know

“guess who Lois?”

Level 7

Since: Dec 06

A little hole in the wall.

#32188 Jan 7, 2014
Katz wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh ok then here's one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =8opuBUjkcbUXX
U2 - Stuck In A Moment You Can't Get Out Of (Lyrics)
I love U2 ... as do (most likely) the Brits and Irish in this forum.

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