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#28223 Jul 23, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>The fact that Germany was not totally defeated in WW1 was the reason for WW2. Just like the US failure to really take out Iraq in the first gulf war was the reason for the second war. When you defeat an enemy it must be a total defeat
would that be nice ... to do unto one country (Germany) the same thing they attempted to do (totally defeat another country to the point of assimilation)....

Actually, the fact that many penalties and sanctions had been imposed on Germany was the reason why Hitler got into power .. he used those penalties as his way to build up resentment ... here is the WIkipedia summary

" Irredentism and revanchism were strong in Germany because of the significant territorial, colonial, and financial losses incurred by the Treaty of Versailles. Under the treaty, Germany lost around 13 percent of its home territory and all of its overseas colonies, while German annexation of other states was prohibited, reparations were imposed, and limits were placed on the size and capability of the country's armed forces"

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#28224 Jul 23, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello Dear Flower...well, have I missed you! Wonderful to see you here this morning..
So what is going on in your living room, pray tell! Sounds pretty major.
We have road works of some description going on in the vilage, one neighbour, P's friend, was stuck in his house for two days unable to get out as the verge outside his house was all churned up for whatever reason, now he tells us when we could have got across the bac field to see keep him company.
How do you cope with this heat year in.....we are hving some respite this a.m. but waiting for the thunderstorms they promised
us and the flash flooding.
Well in case that doesn't happen am off to turn the hose on the garden...
Did this yesterday and noticed that the car window (parked in the bay outside on the road) had been open all night, somebody had left their wallet by the gear stick...somebody was very lucky!...:)
Hope youmanaged some sleep and have a fabulous day...Much Love..<3
Good afternoon, Lady El ... the front bedroom was primered and painted ... then it new flooring was put in, ie., oak flooring ... then a very nice brand new bed ... Next, on to the living room ... All my signed & framed posters were taken down from the walls, the walls were washed ... the posters were taken into the front bedroom ... I ordered new sofa and love seat which are still at the furniture store ... so the rest of the furniture is in the middle of the living room just barely giving me enough room for my baseball games, LOL ... The room was primered this morning and I guess will be painted tomorrow ... After that the oak flooring will be put down and we will strategically put the posters back up to make it look "museum" like, if you will ... Then I'll call and have my leather furniture delivered ... They're nice to hold it down there for me ... whew ... that was an eyeful ... Did I leave anything out ... who knows, but that is what going on ... What's going on in your world? Luvya big! FC <3 ...

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#28225 Jul 23, 2013
franko wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know that history all that well, but the link he provided seemed to indicate that Germany was not the instigator in WW1. They were one of the last to get involved in the fray.
The article was interesting in that it summarized events over a period of 30 to 50 years that steadily led up to the intense atmosphere that resulted in WW1.
World War I ( WWI) was a global war centred in Europe that began on 28 July 1914 and lasted until 11 November 1918.... Germany declared war on Russia on the same day...

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#28226 Jul 23, 2013
franko wrote:
<quoted text>would that be nice ... to do unto one country (Germany) the same thing they attempted to do (totally defeat another country to the point of assimilation)....
Actually, the fact that many penalties and sanctions had been imposed on Germany was the reason why Hitler got into power .. he used those penalties as his way to build up resentment ... here is the WIkipedia summary
" Irredentism and revanchism were strong in Germany because of the significant territorial, colonial, and financial losses incurred by the Treaty of Versailles. Under the treaty, Germany lost around 13 percent of its home territory and all of its overseas colonies, while German annexation of other states was prohibited, reparations were imposed, and limits were placed on the size and capability of the country's armed forces"
Yes, in history, wars were ended by assimilation, annihilation, or by treaties. Because of WWI, un-conditional aurrender of the Axis powers was demanded by the Allies [though Hirohito was ultimately allowed to retain his title as Emperor.

For WWI:
There is a lot to digest but worth reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I#Trea...

And importantly this too because of the descriptions of the exploitation by Hitler and the Nazis of the foment of the nationalists, and other right-wing components of German economic-socio-political society about the conditions of the Treaty of Versailles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back...

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#28227 Jul 23, 2013
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>The Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated by a Serb that triggered a diplomatic crises.Think it was the Austro Hungarians that fired the first shots as the preparation to an invasion of Serbia and then it all kicked off..Again think tony will be more up on this than me..
That's the gist of it and the dominoes fell as they did (alliances immobilized) and WAR!

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#28228 Jul 23, 2013
Deer Whisperer wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, in history, wars were ended by assimilation, annihilation, or by treaties. Because of WWI, un-conditional aurrender of the Axis powers was demanded by the Allies [though Hirohito was ultimately allowed to retain his title as Emperor.

<<<snipped >>>
grrr... forgot to clarify

Because of WWI, un-conditional surrender of the Axis powers was demanded by the Allies ***in WWII*** though Hirohito was ultimately allowed to retain his title as Emperor.

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#28229 Jul 23, 2013
RMQuinn37 wrote:
<quoted text>
Almost like 'its a small world' playing in your head at Disney?
http://youtu.be/nxvlKp-76io
yep, something like that, lol ...

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#28230 Jul 23, 2013
PFfff wrote:
<quoted text>
we just found a program on "On Demand" by Oliver Stone, its suppose to be all about the things in history that we were never told. it started with WW2 but only watched the one so far, but its interesting.. if nothing else I "might" actually learn or re-learn something. lol - its like going to school all over again..
ugh - maybe I don't want to watch it afterall. lol lol
:]
Hello, SweetFeet :)

O. Stones' movies are verily entertaining and makes you think. Facts might just get bent a bit as others do; for instance, Boardwalk Empire playing around with history. And Mel Brooks made "History of the World, Part I" !!

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#28231 Jul 23, 2013
Deer Whisperer wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, in history, wars were ended by assimilation, annihilation, or by treaties. Because of WWI, un-conditional aurrender of the Axis powers was demanded by the Allies [though Hirohito was ultimately allowed to retain his title as Emperor.
For WWI:
There is a lot to digest but worth reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I#Trea...
And importantly this too because of the descriptions of the exploitation by Hitler and the Nazis of the foment of the nationalists, and other right-wing components of German economic-socio-political society about the conditions of the Treaty of Versailles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back...
The Nazi were not right wing. They were Socialist which is of the lfet

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#28232 Jul 23, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
Tony, Krypteia, and anybody watching the coverage..
enjoy the rest of the proceedings from London,
wonder if we will see the new parents and baby
this day?
I feel lucky to be around to witness this, so I
will take my leave for today and relish the
enthusiasm from the crowds and journalists.
Love Kay Burley's impartation of events in
particular.
The baby looks just like the father. Both don't have much hair :)

“....VETS”

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WELCOME HOME

#28233 Jul 23, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>The baby looks just like the father. Both don't have much hair :)
what do you mean not much HEIR ........

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#28234 Jul 23, 2013
Hitler was indeed right wing, his totalitarian policies were designed to remove all class structure. His policies were plutocratic, totalitarian and anti-liberal, exemplified by his doctrine of people's community. Hitler and the Nazis campaigned as Socialists. They also believed in Nationalism.
A TROLL NAMED SLACK

Ludington, MI

#28235 Jul 23, 2013
franko wrote:
<quoted text>Japan was doing it's thing in thier region for years before Hitler came along. However, I think that Japan had hoped to use the fact that Russia was busy deploying their forces in Europe to thier advantage enabling them to try to extend thier forces further north than they would have if the war in Europe was not happening.
it is more complex than most realize
A TROLL NAMED SLACK

Ludington, MI

#28236 Jul 23, 2013
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>The Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated by a Serb that triggered a diplomatic crises.Think it was the Austro Hungarians that fired the first shots as the preparation to an invasion of Serbia and then it all kicked off..Again think tony will be more up on this than me..
and Russia supported Serbia, France supported Russia, England supported France and the resources of the English colonies made it all possible

aint treaties grand, the Seminole Indians never signed a treaty with the US government and always benefited from not doing so

swamp people rule
http://www.semtribe.com/History/
A TROLL NAMED SLACK

Ludington, MI

#28237 Jul 23, 2013
tallyho wrote:
Hitler was indeed right wing, his totalitarian policies were designed to remove all class structure. His policies were plutocratic, totalitarian and anti-liberal, exemplified by his doctrine of people's community. Hitler and the Nazis campaigned as Socialists. They also believed in Nationalism.
sounds like you pops
Krypteia

Barnsley, UK

#28238 Jul 23, 2013
tallyho wrote:
Hitler was indeed right wing, his totalitarian policies were designed to remove all class structure. His policies were plutocratic, totalitarian and anti-liberal, exemplified by his doctrine of people's community. Hitler and the Nazis campaigned as Socialists. They also believed in Nationalism.
That's why they were National Socialist,,,,Either way both left and right are fascists...

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#28239 Jul 23, 2013
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>The Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated by a Serb that triggered a diplomatic crises.Think it was the Austro Hungarians that fired the first shots as the preparation to an invasion of Serbia and then it all kicked off..Again think tony will be more up on this than me..
I have to remind you of one fine point ,,

France and England stood back as Germany hacked up Poland ... yes a pact you did have

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#28240 Jul 23, 2013
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>That's why they were National Socialist,,,,Either way both left and right are fascists...
each was it's own party

“Happiness is a warm gun”

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#28242 Jul 23, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
VEE...thanks so much for the welcome back...
and for the info on those chilli pads, hope
they catch on here.
There was an article on those pools such as your
sister bought, in my Saturday paper, I am so
temptedto get one, there is one which happens to
be the cheapest and has the best review..no pump,
but have a hose-pipe fitted up, no problem.
Hope you have managed to keep Van Gogh out of yours!
GRACE...Bon Voyage....have a wonderful time
in France...there will be a Welcome in the Valley
upon your return!
CUZ LUKE....the day went very well indeed and thanks for thinking of me.
Cuz Eleanor, I'm "tickled pink" and "pleased as punch" that it deed.

What a day for the U.K, eh?! Baby Boy Windsor born! Huzzah! How many given names preceding his surname do yo think he will have ... 4 or 5?:)

Pride of the realm!

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Since: Nov 09

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#28243 Jul 23, 2013
Grace Nerissa wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, the other side of that El, as
I see it is, why is Tally putting himself in the firing line
whilst recovering from serious heart surgery..(most of f all),
He simply doesn't need the stress just now-
And I'm not saying this behind his back, since LIM
Made it clear he's not
leaving the thread
I suggested to him some time ago to
'Take time out' for his health sake..
Just a comment,
and... liike you, El,'I have no dog in this fight'
As the saying goes.
Cuz Grace: when you return from you French holiday, I'll be "all ears" to read all about how Nice it was! Hope you sent postcards!:)

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