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Jul 23, 2013
 
tony1003 wrote:
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Don't bother K - no sense in wasting good logic on this one - I am curious as to whether this might be another persona to the other troll who has begun infesting this thread. Doesn't like to let knowledge get in the way of being contentious.
tally?

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Jul 23, 2013
 
RMQuinn37 wrote:
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Seems to be the king is the preference which is kind of odd since Elizabeth has been Queen like forever ... and her mother before her.....
I think it has to do with the succession rules, plus the family name staying the same?
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Jul 23, 2013
 
franko wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know that history all that well, but the link he provided seemed to indicate that Germany was not the instigator in WW1. They were one of the last to get involved in the fray.
The article was interesting in that it summarized events over a period of 30 to 50 years that steadily led up to the intense atmosphere that resulted in WW1.
I'm tellin ya its all due to ambassadors backroom dealings

lots of money to be made from war and lots of debt for the little people to deal with
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Jul 23, 2013
 
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That's my guess Tony...same pig, different colors.
I don't hide

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Where's Tony when we need him ? I thought Hitler was responsible for WWII and then Japan chimed in?
Not clear on what started WWI.
Japan was doing it's thing in thier region for years before Hitler came along. However, I think that Japan had hoped to use the fact that Russia was busy deploying their forces in Europe to thier advantage enabling them to try to extend thier forces further north than they would have if the war in Europe was not happening.

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<quoted text>Hey Pfffft .... that was very thoughtful of you to mention this ... I second that emotion ... condolences to Vee...
no reason not to really, ever since ive come to offbeat I remember how much Vee liked him. I myself didn't really know much about him until then.\

but ya know, thats what friends do for each other.

hope all is well in Franko World!
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Jul 23, 2013
 
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>For us it was Germany invading Poland,also people forget that Germany and Russia had a pact before hitler decided to invade Russia,then Japan bombed Pearl Harbour a couple of years later and brought he US into it..
I don't think what I can gather Hitler wanted a war with us and didn't think we would get involved but we had a pact with France if Poland got invaded..Tony is more up on 20th century history than I.
we just found a program on "On Demand" by Oliver Stone, its suppose to be all about the things in history that we were never told. it started with WW2 but only watched the one so far, but its interesting.. if nothing else I "might" actually learn or re-learn something. lol - its like going to school all over again..

ugh - maybe I don't want to watch it afterall. lol lol
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Jul 23, 2013
 
franko wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know that history all that well, but the link he provided seemed to indicate that Germany was not the instigator in WW1. They were one of the last to get involved in the fray.
The article was interesting in that it summarized events over a period of 30 to 50 years that steadily led up to the intense atmosphere that resulted in WW1.
The Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated by a Serb that triggered a diplomatic crises.Think it was the Austro Hungarians that fired the first shots as the preparation to an invasion of Serbia and then it all kicked off..Again think tony will be more up on this than me..
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Jul 23, 2013
 
PFfff wrote:
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we just found a program on "On Demand" by Oliver Stone, its suppose to be all about the things in history that we were never told. it started with WW2 but only watched the one so far, but its interesting.. if nothing else I "might" actually learn or re-learn something. lol - its like going to school all over again..
ugh - maybe I don't want to watch it afterall. lol lol
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Might see if I can get this,I really do need to brush up more on more recent history.It made me laugh when tony mentioned that history seemed to have stopped after Victoria or words to that effect,lol,as I agreed because I'm only interested in Victorian and earlier myself..

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Jul 23, 2013
 
franko wrote:
<quoted text>long time no see FC ... sorry to heat things are so tough .... but I know you always keep yuor optimism.
It's all good, Franko ... took all the batteries out of the smoke alarms only to hear one still beeping, LOL ... The painter came over at 0830 and woke me up this morning ... It was the carbon monoxide monitor that was the culprit ... >palm of hand to forehead< DUH! lol ... Hope you've been well, Franko ... Long time no see but doesn't mean I haven't thought of you ... Take care, be safe! >hugs< FC <3 ...

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Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>The fact that Germany was not totally defeated in WW1 was the reason for WW2. Just like the US failure to really take out Iraq in the first gulf war was the reason for the second war. When you defeat an enemy it must be a total defeat
would that be nice ... to do unto one country (Germany) the same thing they attempted to do (totally defeat another country to the point of assimilation)....

Actually, the fact that many penalties and sanctions had been imposed on Germany was the reason why Hitler got into power .. he used those penalties as his way to build up resentment ... here is the WIkipedia summary

" Irredentism and revanchism were strong in Germany because of the significant territorial, colonial, and financial losses incurred by the Treaty of Versailles. Under the treaty, Germany lost around 13 percent of its home territory and all of its overseas colonies, while German annexation of other states was prohibited, reparations were imposed, and limits were placed on the size and capability of the country's armed forces"

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eleanorigby wrote:
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Hello Dear Flower...well, have I missed you! Wonderful to see you here this morning..
So what is going on in your living room, pray tell! Sounds pretty major.
We have road works of some description going on in the vilage, one neighbour, P's friend, was stuck in his house for two days unable to get out as the verge outside his house was all churned up for whatever reason, now he tells us when we could have got across the bac field to see keep him company.
How do you cope with this heat year in.....we are hving some respite this a.m. but waiting for the thunderstorms they promised
us and the flash flooding.
Well in case that doesn't happen am off to turn the hose on the garden...
Did this yesterday and noticed that the car window (parked in the bay outside on the road) had been open all night, somebody had left their wallet by the gear stick...somebody was very lucky!...:)
Hope youmanaged some sleep and have a fabulous day...Much Love..<3
Good afternoon, Lady El ... the front bedroom was primered and painted ... then it new flooring was put in, ie., oak flooring ... then a very nice brand new bed ... Next, on to the living room ... All my signed & framed posters were taken down from the walls, the walls were washed ... the posters were taken into the front bedroom ... I ordered new sofa and love seat which are still at the furniture store ... so the rest of the furniture is in the middle of the living room just barely giving me enough room for my baseball games, LOL ... The room was primered this morning and I guess will be painted tomorrow ... After that the oak flooring will be put down and we will strategically put the posters back up to make it look "museum" like, if you will ... Then I'll call and have my leather furniture delivered ... They're nice to hold it down there for me ... whew ... that was an eyeful ... Did I leave anything out ... who knows, but that is what going on ... What's going on in your world? Luvya big! FC <3 ...

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franko wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know that history all that well, but the link he provided seemed to indicate that Germany was not the instigator in WW1. They were one of the last to get involved in the fray.
The article was interesting in that it summarized events over a period of 30 to 50 years that steadily led up to the intense atmosphere that resulted in WW1.
World War I ( WWI) was a global war centred in Europe that began on 28 July 1914 and lasted until 11 November 1918.... Germany declared war on Russia on the same day...

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franko wrote:
<quoted text>would that be nice ... to do unto one country (Germany) the same thing they attempted to do (totally defeat another country to the point of assimilation)....
Actually, the fact that many penalties and sanctions had been imposed on Germany was the reason why Hitler got into power .. he used those penalties as his way to build up resentment ... here is the WIkipedia summary
" Irredentism and revanchism were strong in Germany because of the significant territorial, colonial, and financial losses incurred by the Treaty of Versailles. Under the treaty, Germany lost around 13 percent of its home territory and all of its overseas colonies, while German annexation of other states was prohibited, reparations were imposed, and limits were placed on the size and capability of the country's armed forces"
Yes, in history, wars were ended by assimilation, annihilation, or by treaties. Because of WWI, un-conditional aurrender of the Axis powers was demanded by the Allies [though Hirohito was ultimately allowed to retain his title as Emperor.

For WWI:
There is a lot to digest but worth reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I#Trea...

And importantly this too because of the descriptions of the exploitation by Hitler and the Nazis of the foment of the nationalists, and other right-wing components of German economic-socio-political society about the conditions of the Treaty of Versailles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back...

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Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>The Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated by a Serb that triggered a diplomatic crises.Think it was the Austro Hungarians that fired the first shots as the preparation to an invasion of Serbia and then it all kicked off..Again think tony will be more up on this than me..
That's the gist of it and the dominoes fell as they did (alliances immobilized) and WAR!

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Deer Whisperer wrote:
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Yes, in history, wars were ended by assimilation, annihilation, or by treaties. Because of WWI, un-conditional aurrender of the Axis powers was demanded by the Allies [though Hirohito was ultimately allowed to retain his title as Emperor.

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grrr... forgot to clarify

Because of WWI, un-conditional surrender of the Axis powers was demanded by the Allies ***in WWII*** though Hirohito was ultimately allowed to retain his title as Emperor.

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RMQuinn37 wrote:
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Almost like 'its a small world' playing in your head at Disney?
http://youtu.be/nxvlKp-76io
yep, something like that, lol ...

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PFfff wrote:
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we just found a program on "On Demand" by Oliver Stone, its suppose to be all about the things in history that we were never told. it started with WW2 but only watched the one so far, but its interesting.. if nothing else I "might" actually learn or re-learn something. lol - its like going to school all over again..
ugh - maybe I don't want to watch it afterall. lol lol
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Hello, SweetFeet :)

O. Stones' movies are verily entertaining and makes you think. Facts might just get bent a bit as others do; for instance, Boardwalk Empire playing around with history. And Mel Brooks made "History of the World, Part I" !!

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Deer Whisperer wrote:
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Yes, in history, wars were ended by assimilation, annihilation, or by treaties. Because of WWI, un-conditional aurrender of the Axis powers was demanded by the Allies [though Hirohito was ultimately allowed to retain his title as Emperor.
For WWI:
There is a lot to digest but worth reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I#Trea...
And importantly this too because of the descriptions of the exploitation by Hitler and the Nazis of the foment of the nationalists, and other right-wing components of German economic-socio-political society about the conditions of the Treaty of Versailles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back...
The Nazi were not right wing. They were Socialist which is of the lfet

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Jul 23, 2013
 
eleanorigby wrote:
Tony, Krypteia, and anybody watching the coverage..
enjoy the rest of the proceedings from London,
wonder if we will see the new parents and baby
this day?
I feel lucky to be around to witness this, so I
will take my leave for today and relish the
enthusiasm from the crowds and journalists.
Love Kay Burley's impartation of events in
particular.
The baby looks just like the father. Both don't have much hair :)

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