El's Kitchen

“....VETS”

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WELCOME HOME

#24205 Mar 18, 2013
RMQuinn37 wrote:
<quoted text>
I think that's called the loophole --- dem or republican, look for it and they'll find it, particularly when the defendant has as much money as Arthur Andersen
called checks and balances very IMPORTANT part of this great system you seem to delight in bashing

each branch can and does overseer each other

“Denny Crain”

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#24206 Mar 18, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>
I always cast my mind back to the fact that when my own ancestors emigrated here, they were equally unwelcome...difference being, no benefits in those days. The conditions in which they lived would be considered uninhabitable, yet they made good. Focus these days seems to be on the occasional immigrant who is granted extraordinary benefits and given a house in the most exclusive areas, rent paid, however, always two sides to the coin, not a lot of mention of the unscrupulous landlords who take advantage of impoverished immigrants, housing them in garages and the like, for which they pay exhorbitant rent out of their benefits.
There are instances where some newcomers are given grants to open restaurants, cafes, or shops, whilst local unemployed are given the no help whatsoever, that creates discord.
Then there are the newcomers who will accept the jobs of work which the locals are too lazy to do.
What riles mostly, are the lack of health checks given to people coming into the UK....TB is on the increase having been eradicated, yet when I moved to the USA, even my dogs had to have a clean bill of health.
I will sum up Denny by saying that our economy is such, that for the first time in my living memory at least, food banks are sprouting up everywhere.
Did you hear about Cypress and their bank tax. They took 10% of what people had in their bank! I hope Obama doesn't hear about that :)

“ain't she sweet?”

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#24207 Mar 18, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>Good morning Mighty Quinn. You are my favorite oerson to disagree with. I hate government even when Republicans are in charge. I just think conservatives are less harmful. Obama doesn't think we have a spending problem at all. We can't continue to borrow half of what we spend. You know where that will end for all of us. It is a disgrace that we have 40 million people on food stamps
Same here Denny. I don't disagree there are too many on food stamps -- sadly the ones who abuse the system make it harder for those in need. And there are many in need.

Agree or don't, but it was the likes of the seriously affluent in TX (Skilling & Lay to name a few) and IL whose dealings and greed cheated people and resulted in a significant number of people losing jobs, savings and ending up on gov welfare rolls through no fault of their own.

How can justify that? How can you dismiss them as "47%" when it's the 1% who literally put them there? It's hypocrisy at best and criminal at worst....and it was criminal.

“ain't she sweet?”

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#24208 Mar 18, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>just cutting in to say y'all are welcome to the kitchen.
Can we be objective enough to describe what we are really
like? For myself, anything I have to say here, I would
say in the RW...if, that is, there was anybody sufficiently
interested to hear it, which is doubtful! One topic rules
here where I live, and that is we English incomers are
the ruination of their culture. Understandable.
I tell a lie, Rugby is first and foremost in the converstion
currently, Wales having retained the Championship.
You get what you see with me. There's nothing I say here that I don't say with family and friends. Take it or leave it. I'm highly opinionated (as my good pal Denny can attest) and I was born talking and haven't shut up since (as my friends & family outside of the realm can attest.

“ain't she sweet?”

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#24209 Mar 18, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>What a pleasant place to discuss our views. I never take anything personally and I value everyone's view point. Quinn is from a solid Democrat state and I am from a solid Republican state :)
But you misunderstand Denny. It's like my friend who thought I was an atheist because I no longer believe what I was raised with and don't attend a church. I'm not an atheist.

Ergo just because Illinois generally and Chicago in particular are highly democrat, I do not subscribe or claim affiliation with any party. They are the same in different suits.

I am socially liberal and somewhat of a fiscal conservative. I believe the gov should not dictate who can marry, nor should it dictate people's family planning decisions; yes we need to cut spending but that cuts both ways --- even during 'peacetime' we keep spending more and more on defense; the government should help people who need a hand or get hit by natural disasters and we are the only country who does not revere its seniors, although that's more cultural than gov funding. What the gov has all but eliminated is mental healthcare -- that's dangerous, irresponsible or no pun intended but crazy.

I am liberal a proud of it (ma's rolling in her grave). Most republicans appear to be seriously conservative both socially - I do not need a white bible thumping man to tell me how to live my life. I find it utter hypocrisy when politicians -- usually conservative republicans -- say they want less government in private lives, but proceed to use the law to determine who can marry (one man/one woman); whether a woman can purchase birth control (I'm 47 and insulin dependent diabetic, I should die because some man says I should not have access to birth control?)

the list can go on....

“Denny Crain”

Level 8

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#24210 Mar 18, 2013
RMQuinn37 wrote:
<quoted text>
Same here Denny. I don't disagree there are too many on food stamps -- sadly the ones who abuse the system make it harder for those in need. And there are many in need.
Agree or don't, but it was the likes of the seriously affluent in TX (Skilling & Lay to name a few) and IL whose dealings and greed cheated people and resulted in a significant number of people losing jobs, savings and ending up on gov welfare rolls through no fault of their own.
How can justify that? How can you dismiss them as "47%" when it's the 1% who literally put them there? It's hypocrisy at best and criminal at worst....and it was criminal.
If it is criminal then the courts decide that. Put them in jail if they broke the law. I have no beef with successful people. They cause the jobs in the first place. Their wealth doesn't make me poorer. That same 1% pay the lions share of taxes. That 47% who pay no federal income tax just aren't interested in lower taxes for the rest of us. When it comes to corruption there is plenty to go around on all sides. Obama's dog trainer makes over $100,000 at tax payer expense. Obama has a staff of over 400 and most make near $100K or more. Last year we paid 1.5 billion for Obama's travel.

“Denny Crain”

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#24211 Mar 18, 2013
RMQuinn37 wrote:
<quoted text>
But you misunderstand Denny. It's like my friend who thought I was an atheist because I no longer believe what I was raised with and don't attend a church. I'm not an atheist.
Ergo just because Illinois generally and Chicago in particular are highly democrat, I do not subscribe or claim affiliation with any party. They are the same in different suits.
I am socially liberal and somewhat of a fiscal conservative. I believe the gov should not dictate who can marry, nor should it dictate people's family planning decisions; yes we need to cut spending but that cuts both ways --- even during 'peacetime' we keep spending more and more on defense; the government should help people who need a hand or get hit by natural disasters and we are the only country who does not revere its seniors, although that's more cultural than gov funding. What the gov has all but eliminated is mental healthcare -- that's dangerous, irresponsible or no pun intended but crazy.
I am liberal a proud of it (ma's rolling in her grave). Most republicans appear to be seriously conservative both socially - I do not need a white bible thumping man to tell me how to live my life. I find it utter hypocrisy when politicians -- usually conservative republicans -- say they want less government in private lives, but proceed to use the law to determine who can marry (one man/one woman); whether a woman can purchase birth control (I'm 47 and insulin dependent diabetic, I should die because some man says I should not have access to birth control?)
the list can go on....
We agree on some things but not others. I am a libertarian and not a Republican. I vote Republican but I am a social liberal. I don't want the government to control what I do as long as I am not harming anyone. I don't want them telling me how big my coke is or what I should eat. I am for legal drugs and prostitution it is none of the governments business. There are all kinds of sexual relationships and I have no problem with any of them as long as it is consenting adults. Gays have exactly the same rights as everyone else does. ONLY IF YOU CHANGE the definition of marriage is there any unequal treatment. If one small group can change the very meaning of words then any other group has the same right. I don't care about birth control in any way as long as I am not forced to pay for it. I don't think religious institutions should be forced to pay for birth control if it is against their beliefs. I find many liberals to say anything that advances their cause. Like Obama's add that Romney caused a woman to die from cancer. Today Hillery is for gay marriage and so is Bill. They both ran on difference of marriage and marriage is between a man and woman. Just like Obama first term was anti gay marriage now the lie isn't necessary any more and he is for gay marriage

“Denny Crain”

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#24212 Mar 18, 2013
RMQuinn37 wrote:
<quoted text>
But you misunderstand Denny. It's like my friend who thought I was an atheist because I no longer believe what I was raised with and don't attend a church. I'm not an atheist.
Ergo just because Illinois generally and Chicago in particular are highly democrat, I do not subscribe or claim affiliation with any party. They are the same in different suits.
I am socially liberal and somewhat of a fiscal conservative. I believe the gov should not dictate who can marry, nor should it dictate people's family planning decisions; yes we need to cut spending but that cuts both ways --- even during 'peacetime' we keep spending more and more on defense; the government should help people who need a hand or get hit by natural disasters and we are the only country who does not revere its seniors, although that's more cultural than gov funding. What the gov has all but eliminated is mental healthcare -- that's dangerous, irresponsible or no pun intended but crazy.
I am liberal a proud of it (ma's rolling in her grave). Most republicans appear to be seriously conservative both socially - I do not need a white bible thumping man to tell me how to live my life. I find it utter hypocrisy when politicians -- usually conservative republicans -- say they want less government in private lives, but proceed to use the law to determine who can marry (one man/one woman); whether a woman can purchase birth control (I'm 47 and insulin dependent diabetic, I should die because some man says I should not have access to birth control?)
the list can go on....
I am very in favor of defense spending. I don't want our people in the second best plane or the second best tank in a fight

“....VETS”

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WELCOME HOME

#24213 Mar 18, 2013
I find that the government is for the masses and not the individual... which they are correct ... I don't want contaminated food/health issue eating place/smoke in my face/children drinking

“Hey, Sarge!”

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The Milky Way

#24214 Mar 18, 2013
Good evening/morning to all!
I have been reading postings and not posting much. Some of what I see is quite amusing and I share that with Brighteyes. We have really good belly laughs.

My point here is that between some, it is an episode of Upstairs/Downstairs, Downton Abbey, and of course Monty Python.
(Cut to corner in kitchen), Boomer_ I say Lady Quinn and Master Crane. Would you be so kind as to bury the hatchet in the garden?
Franko- Not in each others' head!
(Room erupts in laughter!)
Lady Quinn and Master Crane retire to the garden with their chat of American politics. Applause!
Franko- Has Gluteus Maximus stopped in lately?

My sincere apologies to the BBC, any and all that I may have offended, and for all of those I have not!

Spring has yet to be sprung in my head!
(Don't ask!)
Peace

“ain't she sweet?”

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#24215 Mar 18, 2013
Boomer7 wrote:
Good evening/morning to all!
I have been reading postings and not posting much. Some of what I see is quite amusing and I share that with Brighteyes. We have really good belly laughs.

My point here is that between some, it is an episode of Upstairs/Downstairs, Downton Abbey, and of course Monty Python.
(Cut to corner in kitchen), Boomer_ I say Lady Quinn and Master Crane. Would you be so kind as to bury the hatchet in the garden?
Franko- Not in each others' head!
(Room erupts in laughter!)
Lady Quinn and Master Crane retire to the garden with their chat of American politics. Applause!
Franko- Has Gluteus Maximus stopped in lately?

My sincere apologies to the BBC, any and all that I may have offended, and for all of those I have not!

Spring has yet to be sprung in my head!
(Don't ask!)
Peace
Alas poor Boomer, I cannot speak for Franko or Sir Tallyho Bali Hi, but as Master Crane has stated, we have no hatchet to bury.

Denny and I knew each other and bantered before gracing this lovely kitchen. It is friendly banter and neither of insults the other. Age, geography, life experiences --- we have differing opinions. No one is left with ill feelings.

As for Franko & Sir T, we've been chatting it up in the kitchen for a while - I love Franko's wit and wisdom and Tally is another well informed walking encyclopedia. I don't take offense and I certainly hope they don't as I mean no offense.

Get my Irish up and that's another story, but I have no problems with our kitchen friends and as I'm aware no one has a problem with me. If so tell me, don't keep it a secret.

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#24216 Mar 18, 2013
RMQuinn37 wrote:
<quoted text>
Alas poor Boomer, I cannot speak for Franko or Sir Tallyho Bali Hi, but as Master Crane has stated, we have no hatchet to bury.
Denny and I knew each other and bantered before gracing this lovely kitchen. It is friendly banter and neither of insults the other. Age, geography, life experiences --- we have differing opinions. No one is left with ill feelings.
As for Franko & Sir T, we've been chatting it up in the kitchen for a while - I love Franko's wit and wisdom and Tally is another well informed walking encyclopedia. I don't take offense and I certainly hope they don't as I mean no offense.
Get my Irish up and that's another story, but I have no problems with our kitchen friends and as I'm aware no one has a problem with me. If so tell me, don't keep it a secret.
Dear Quinn my friend. I know that Boomer was talking tongue and cheek. We both are aware that this is a friendly and open environment to discuss anything that comes to mind. No one ever said that they have a problem with you and no need to be on the defense here. Looks to me like he was doing his best to make light of things. No worries Quinn. We are all friends here.
Peace as always Dear Quinn.

“ain't she sweet?”

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#24217 Mar 18, 2013
Brighteyes9 wrote:
<quoted text>Dear Quinn my friend. I know that Boomer was talking tongue and cheek. We both are aware that this is a friendly and open environment to discuss anything that comes to mind. No one ever said that they have a problem with you and no need to be on the defense here. Looks to me like he was doing his best to make light of things. No worries Quinn. We are all friends here.
Peace as always Dear Quinn.
Hey there Brighteyes, I was not being defensive I was trying to explain there is no real conflict, certainly not with me & Denny who go at it the most.

I thought perhaps Boomer thought there was real discord between us.

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#24218 Mar 19, 2013
Boomer7 wrote:
Good evening/morning to all!
I have been reading postings and not posting much. Some of what I see is quite amusing and I share that with Brighteyes. We have really good belly laughs.
My point here is that between some, it is an episode of Upstairs/Downstairs, Downton Abbey, and of course Monty Python.
(Cut to corner in kitchen), Boomer_ I say Lady Quinn and Master Crane. Would you be so kind as to bury the hatchet in the garden?
Franko- Not in each others' head!
(Room erupts in laughter!)
Lady Quinn and Master Crane retire to the garden with their chat of American politics. Applause!
Franko- Has Gluteus Maximus stopped in lately?
My sincere apologies to the BBC, any and all that I may have offended, and for all of those I have not!
Spring has yet to be sprung in my head!
(Don't ask!)
Peace
Good Morning Lord Boomer...
(cut to behind counter) I say Madame Grace..I've learnt more about
politics than I care to know, what say you?
Madame Grace....just do what you do best, is that tea brewed yet?
hahaha
Very well put Boomer, who could take offence at that.
Have a brilliant day and SO glad to see you gracing the kitchen
again.(You had me worried there for a minute!)...:)

“Cool huh?”

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#24219 Mar 19, 2013
RMQuinn37 wrote:
<quoted text>
You get what you see with me. There's nothing I say here that I don't say with family and friends. Take it or leave it. I'm highly opinionated (as my good pal Denny can attest) and I was born talking and haven't shut up since (as my friends & family outside of the realm can attest.
Good Morning Dear Quincy....we love you to bits here in the
kitchen, talk away, we can if we wish skip yours and Denny's
political views, but you are our Oprah and we would hate it
if you did 'shut up'.....:)

“Cool huh?”

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#24220 Mar 19, 2013
tallyho wrote:
I find that the government is for the masses and not the individual... which they are correct ... I don't want contaminated food/health issue eating place/smoke in my face/children drinking
Good Morning Sir Tally...very good points, priorities and all that.

“Cool huh?”

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#24221 Mar 19, 2013
Good Morning Grace....

did you watch Pope Francis' inauguration?
(ask a silly question)!

Very brave of him to dispense with the Pope-mobile
and how very compassionate of him to bless the
fellow in the crowd. Very moving indeed.

“Cool huh?”

Since: Jun 06

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#24222 Mar 19, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>Did you hear about Cypress and their bank tax. They took 10% of what people had in their bank! I hope Obama doesn't hear about that :)
Good Morning Denny....
it's appalling what is happening in Cyprus...the ATM's are
locked, the ex pats have no access to their money...as one
lady said 'it's theft'..
Sad to hear of the country's downfall, the single currency is
just not working.

“Cool huh?”

Since: Jun 06

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#24223 Mar 19, 2013
franko wrote:
<quoted text>maybe you will want to splint the toe for a few days???
Don't they have blood pressure machines in most of the pharmacies these days?
'Morning Franko...

to let you know your thoughtful post was partially instrumental
in me being 'sensible' and mosying down to the hospital.
It's a new one which has been built in the hills, so it was a real
treat on Sunday to go up there...we have been dying to see the place, if you will pardon the pun.
They do have those BP machines available for the general public,
it's something I have considered having, my brother has one,not a bad idea at that.
Sorry to leave it so long in replying, I have been rushed off my foot! LOL!

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#24224 Mar 19, 2013
Brighteyes9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Good afternoon Lady El,
It is good to know your feeling better and I am glad the ice worked. It sounds like a good day to kick your feet up and relax today. I would love to have some warm tea as I cannot get warm this morning.
Have a wonderful day and be good to yourself.
Peace and love always my friend!
Good Morning Dearest Brighteyes....
how about this for a delayed response!..:) My bad.
We have a gorgeous Spring like day here in Snowdonia,
alright, so there is snow on the tops, but looks so
beautiful. I am going to put an hour in in the garden
this morning, complete what we started ysterday which
was transferring rose bushes which were in the way of
access to the patio, checked them this morning and they
don't know they have been moved.
Your avatar of the tulips in your garden gave me an idea,
they look so much more effective planted with mixed colours
as you have, so I will borrow that idea.
Have a brilliant day my friend....<3

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