“Wear both with Pride!”

Since: Jun 06

Cleveleys, UK

#23296 Feb 21, 2013
franko wrote:
<quoted text>To me the biggest flaw is ... if you think some intruder has locked themselves in the bathroom, why not say something out loud, weapon in hand to defend yourself ... and wait for a response of some sort? Wouldn't a girlfriend say it was her? Wouldn't he recognise her voice???
This "shoot first, ask questions later" is ridiculous .. at the very least he should go to jail for manslaughter due to gross stupidity in this situation ... no one, even an intruder, had to die.
If there was an intruder he could have said "you say there in the bathroom, I will have my girlfriend call the police. I have a gun pointed at the door, if you attempt to come out I will shoot you."
If there was an intruder he could have said "you say there in the bathroom, I will have my girlfriend call the police. I have a gun pointed at the door, if you attempt to come out I will shoot you."

I have never heard anything so fricking funny in my life....
the answer could well be 'BANG'

“Wear both with Pride!”

Since: Jun 06

Cleveleys, UK

#23297 Feb 21, 2013
Grace Nerissa wrote:
<quoted text>
'Assumption' isn't good enough, Denny
what about common dialogue?
ie.
to the burglar
'I have a gun here and if you don't get the *ell
out of my house now -
or give yourself up -
I'll shoot'
that would be 'some' kind of fair chance to give
anyone.
Hope you'll excuse me for saying
NO wonder guns ' been have been' and 'are getting so many
folks into trouble 'over there'
Equally funny....I would have thought it rather foolish to
advertise the fact that one was armed....giving the intruder
the opportunity to shoot first ASSUMING he was armed.

Has anybody considered just locking the intruder in and calling the police?

“Wear both with Pride!”

Since: Jun 06

Cleveleys, UK

#23298 Feb 21, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>What makes you think it is only a monetary issue? Burglars and criminals do commit murder. If the guy has already killed he will surly kill again. If he already has serve two terms and the third term mean life he will kill you. I will defend my life and property
Rape comes to mind...had it been a genuine intruder, or in
another instance entirely, he could possibly intend to rape
in which case, not only a few dollars at stake.

“Wear both with Pride!”

Since: Jun 06

Cleveleys, UK

#23299 Feb 21, 2013
Grace Nerissa wrote:
Well,
In the past few days,
I was busy with friends & family
helping to give my close friend
an appropriate 'send off'
and we did this 'the Irish way'
in the best sense, a wake at the house..
sitting round the fire ..welcome
music, recalling memories, cups of hot tea
.. and a drop of 'the hard stuff' for
anyone who wanted it:
appletart and goodies!
Mass at the Catholic Church ..
a fine funeral..
flowers: prayers & blessings..
and shared together a fine meal..
yesterday.
Chapter closed.
NO truer saying,(I think) than
'Life goes on'
and it will for me now..
as, it's how my friend would've wanted it.
but NOT
before thanking
El: Boomer/Bright Eyes: Franko:
Tony 1003: RM Quinn
Diamond ~Dusted Rose: and ..DENNY
for all your most thoughtful texts
*INDIVIDUALLY* appreciated:
Thankyou Grace....and you did your friend proud
between you all, it has to be a great comfort at
what has been a very sad time.

“Wear both with Pride!”

Since: Jun 06

Cleveleys, UK

#23300 Feb 21, 2013
We all seem to be judging one person, namely
Oscar Pistorius...can I suggest we put ourselves
in the frame, as to what we would do under such
circumstances, perhaps alone in the house, an
intruder present.
To be honest, I am beginning to see things in
a different light, I am not saying an arsenal
now, but do think a householder should be able
to own a gun for protection.
It seems common sense to me.

“Denny Crain”

Level 8

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#23301 Feb 21, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>
Rape comes to mind...had it been a genuine intruder, or in
another instance entirely, he could possibly intend to rape
in which case, not only a few dollars at stake.
Many burglars are very strange and they can escalate to bigger things. If not driven by money they can just like to go through a womans things and they also just like to break things

“Denny Crain”

Level 8

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#23302 Feb 21, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
We all seem to be judging one person, namely
Oscar Pistorius...can I suggest we put ourselves
in the frame, as to what we would do under such
circumstances, perhaps alone in the house, an
intruder present.
To be honest, I am beginning to see things in
a different light, I am not saying an arsenal
now, but do think a householder should be able
to own a gun for protection.
It seems common sense to me.
Ah you have won me over with your argument of a gun for protection :) There is a small town that requires all home owners to have a gun :) Crime is pretty low there

Level 3

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#23303 Feb 21, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>
You certainly can....but I am up to my eyes at the moment,
Sir Tally is your man for the best hot cider drinks.
(Sir Tally....if you would be so kind....)
Very nice to see you this afternoon Brighteyes....to hear you
and Boomer had a great weekend.
Thank you Lady El. I see you have a sick baby. I hope Bailey is better soon. Thanks for recommending Sir Tally.
Hope all is well in the Kitchen.

“ain't she sweet?”

Level 7

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#23304 Feb 21, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>You mean the one congress voted for?
Different congress. Plus Bush suckered them into believing there were WMDs.

“ain't she sweet?”

Level 7

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#23305 Feb 21, 2013
Grace Nerissa wrote:
<quoted text>but ..My God, Denny!!!!

Surely life is or [should be]
more precious than that!!!

shoot to KILL?
when the burglar might get a few dollars
for his efforts??

Makes NO sense to me,
yes indeed, to be fair
such a burglar is a bad egg indeed in my opinion
up to no good, and has NO business
brwaking an entering

BUT.........

to kill him/her STONE DEAD???

that is completely uncivilized in 'my' opinion.

What's the point in the law here..
and WHAT role has the law??

and how it should be allowed
deal with such a person in a civilised way?
Not everyone in the US agrees with Texas.

“....VETS”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

WELCOME HOME

#23306 Feb 21, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>Grace I think the difference is you don't expect the burglar to be armed. Plus you seem willing to let the burglar decide weather you live or die. In My country I would assume he had a gun to begin with and I will not give him a chance to kill me. Plus I don't know if there is someone with him who is armed. When he broke in my house he made the decision to put his life at risk
trust me only an idiot reaches for a gun when one is pointed at him.... and only an idiot would put his family in jeopardy

by thinking he can out shot anyone .... thank god most are Texans

“....VETS”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

WELCOME HOME

#23307 Feb 21, 2013
RMQuinn37 wrote:
<quoted text>
Different congress. Plus Bush suckered them into believing there were WMDs.
well your wrong an Iraqi informant suckered the Cia into believing WMD .. but Saddam killed via orders 3,000 in one afternoon ..... that is mass enough for me , and remember this

Iraqi was still at war with the coalition [37] world countries of the UN .... believe this: ex-pres. sr./jr were at the head of the table , but it was a world table not Bush's table

so how about laying off the Bush crap

“guess who Lois?”

Level 7

Since: Dec 06

A little hole in the wall.

#23308 Feb 21, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>
steroid use was discounted. It was herbal medication. Keep up! lol
as of the last report I heard, which was yesterday, was that it was "claimed" to be herbal and yet to be confirmed .. I did not think that herbal medication was taken with syringes ....

“guess who Lois?”

Level 7

Since: Dec 06

A little hole in the wall.

#23309 Feb 21, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>What makes you think it is only a monetary issue? Burglars and criminals do commit murder. If the guy has already killed he will surly kill again. If he already has serve two terms and the third term mean life he will kill you. I will defend my life and property
Do strangers enter a hose of a stranger with intent to kill? or is it that they go in to steal, and when encountered by the homeowner, who he fears might have a gun .. he shoots in his own defence just like the homeowner shoots in self defense??? It becomes gun against gun.

People murdering strangers with no motive is a very rare event compared to thievery.

Also, when someone goes about planning to murder someone ... they go in with the upper hand and rarely does the homeowner have a chance to get a weapon to defend themselves .. so the gun becomes quite useless for self defense anyhow.

“guess who Lois?”

Level 7

Since: Dec 06

A little hole in the wall.

#23310 Feb 21, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>
If there was an intruder he could have said "you say there in the bathroom, I will have my girlfriend call the police. I have a gun pointed at the door, if you attempt to come out I will shoot you."
I have never heard anything so fricking funny in my life....
the answer could well be 'BANG'
he can shout from around the corner down the hall ...

“guess who Lois?”

Level 7

Since: Dec 06

A little hole in the wall.

#23311 Feb 21, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>
Equally funny....I would have thought it rather foolish to
advertise the fact that one was armed....giving the intruder
the opportunity to shoot first ASSUMING he was armed.
Has anybody considered just locking the intruder in and calling the police?
how do you lock a bathroom door from the outside?
Krypteia

Workington, UK

#23312 Feb 22, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>In Texas we would shoot to kill on the assumption that if he was willing to break in he was willing to kill you if he had too.
For me reasoning would be you have no right to enter my house no matter what time and frighten my family and take my things..
Now the American judicial system is far better longer sentences tougher conditions and not the human rights wrap them up in cotton wool rubbish we have here.
My brother nearly got charged believe it or not for beating a burglar up in his house can you believe it,my brother said if he got prosecuted for it next time it ever happens he just as well kill him..

“near Halloween.”

Level 8

Since: Dec 06

#23313 Feb 22, 2013
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>For me reasoning would be you have no right to enter my house no matter what time and frighten my family and take my things..
Now the American judicial system is far better longer sentences tougher conditions and not the human rights wrap them up in cotton wool rubbish we have here.
My brother nearly got charged believe it or not for beating a burglar up in his house can you believe it,my brother said if he got prosecuted for it next time it ever happens he just as well kill him..
Hi K,

Of course, goes without saying,
no one has a right to enter another
person's

house for the purpose of stealing..

I'd still think long & hard before I'd
pull a gun on that person, and shoot to kill.
something you'd have to live with
for the rest of your life..

but that's just me...
and what we must remember
in the example we are discussing here,
it's all conjecture, perhaps many
more important pieces of info..
that we know NOTHING about, come into
play.

Good day to you K...

“near Halloween.”

Level 8

Since: Dec 06

#23314 Feb 22, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>Now Grace you know I like you to much to ever have a problem with anything you say to me. Guns get criminals in trouble. Here in Dallas a burglar locked his self in the bathroom and called the police to come and get him before the home owner shot him. I had two guys break in my house in the middle of the night. I got a pistol and my wife shouted at me to not shoot it may be the boys. When they heard that they ran. In Texas if they are on you land at night you are justified in shooting them. We also have the death sentence for murders. That ends the problem. The last thing I am interested in when it comes to a gun fight is giving anyone a fair chance. Giving a warning that you have a gun may be your last words
Thanks for that nice sentiment D.. and likewise,
but, don't ever worr' about giving
your heartfelt, opinion, nor will
I..
it is 'our right'.

I think this is what makes THE KITCHEN thread
different, in that,
we can argue maybe strongly..
but civilly..
yet hold very different opinions.

Hope the daffs are popping up around where
you live, I see a few around here..

“near Halloween.”

Level 8

Since: Dec 06

#23315 Feb 22, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>
Equally funny....I would have thought it rather foolish to
advertise the fact that one was armed....giving the intruder
the opportunity to shoot first ASSUMING he was armed.
Has anybody considered just locking the intruder in and calling the police?
Good Spring Morning ..

Different views El,
Foolish of course were one to stand
outside the door and utter those words,
but choose a safe angle and warn the
intruder, is what was on my mind.
then not so foolish to inform him there is
a weapon between them..
a scare tactic...
you having more freedom to move around,
he being confined in a small space.

having said all that,

I suppose one would have to be there
to 'know' ALL the details.

SAD case no matter what way one looks at it.

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