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<quoted text>Dear Grace. Boomer and I send our condolences to you and her family. May she rest in peace. I am sure she loved having you as a dear friend. We are also lucky to have you here in the kitchen Dear Grace. Thank you for your beautiful poetry.
Peace always.
Hi Brighteyes! Hope you guys are doing well ...... and staying out of trouble!

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<quoted text>The Dems defined their opponent
If that were true why would the Republicans permit it? The better known Republicans and conservative pundits are by far not wallflowers.

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The Dems defined their opponent
can you explain that further?

Shouldn't the candidate and his party be the ones to define themselves?

I can see if the media played a part in how the public perceived the candidates, I know the media is more liberal (Democrat) in their politics.

All I'm saying is that, for a nation that has considered itself a rebublican nation for many ears, it took some doing for a democrat to beat them with a candidate who has his race as a major negative on his pros and cons list. As much as he gained most of the 13% black vote he could potentialy have lost that much of the white vote for for the same reason. I suspect the swing vote might have been the hispanics who also face racial/cultural oppressoin an dwoudl identify with a none-white president.

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I lost a longtime friend .. she passed
with all the family present.
I'm glad she is at rest, for her sake..
particularly,as there was no way
back .. having had such an aggressive
form of cancer
one has to think of what's best
for the person in a lot of pain..
and that's my consolation now.
I'm so sorry to hear she has passed ... you also have the consolation of having had such a dear freind in your life for so many years, and the memories and positive influence she had on you and others around you and her ....

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<quoted text>can you explain that further?
Shouldn't the candidate and his party be the ones to define themselves?
I can see if the media played a part in how the public perceived the candidates, I know the media is more liberal (Democrat) in their politics.
All I'm saying is that, for a nation that has considered itself a rebublican nation for many ears, it took some doing for a democrat to beat them with a candidate who has his race as a major negative on his pros and cons list. As much as he gained most of the 13% black vote he could potentialy have lost that much of the white vote for for the same reason. I suspect the swing vote might have been the hispanics who also face racial/cultural oppressoin an dwoudl identify with a none-white president.
the media can and does control the trend of the thinking public.... LENO/OPRAH/MEDIA elected the 1st Afro-Amer president in history ....

Obama was duly sworn in: he became the 1st black President...

re-election the profile of Leno/Oprah/media was subdued ...
correct me if I'm wrong , but isn't your government's political woes be more of a concern to you

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Feb 19, 2013
 
anyhow , good morning LADY EL/MADAME GRACIE/Ladies & Gents of the realm Kit Krue

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<quoted text>the media can and does control the trend of the thinking public.... LENO/OPRAH/MEDIA elected the 1st Afro-Amer president in history ....

Obama was duly sworn in: he became the 1st black President...

re-election the profile of Leno/Oprah/media was subdued ...
correct me if I'm wrong , but isn't your government's political woes be more of a concern to you
Personally I've reached a point where I do not believe my vote matters. With the Electoral College and Delegates, someone can win the popular vote but lose the Primary or General Election.

It seems campaign contributions can be limitless so to me it seems its all about money getting someone elected.

Not only is there the greed and power high most succumb to, but its become a family business both locally and nationally: Stroger, Daley, Kennedy & Bush.....

I've become quite disillusioned and disgusted with the candidates and the process. I get that all of you servicemen fought and died for the people's right to have a vote, but I would think some are "rolling in their graves" to see what it's become.

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anyhow , good morning LADY EL/MADAME GRACIE/Ladies & Gents of the realm Kit Krue
Oh happy happy day to you all!

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Personally I've reached a point where I do not believe my vote matters. With the Electoral College and Delegates, someone can win the popular vote but lose the Primary or General Election.
It seems campaign contributions can be limitless so to me it seems its all about money getting someone elected.
Not only is there the greed and power high most succumb to, but its become a family business both locally and nationally: Stroger, Daley, Kennedy & Bush.....
I've become quite disillusioned and disgusted with the candidates and the process. I get that all of you servicemen fought and died for the people's right to have a vote, but I would think some are "rolling in their graves" to see what it's become.
Good morning Quinn. Don't let it get you down. It has always been like this. The only thing that changes is the tech :)

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If that were true why would the Republicans permit it? The better known Republicans and conservative pundits are by far not wallflowers.
The Democrats were far better at defining Romney. He is rich, he closed business, a woman died from cancer because of Romney, Even the head of the senate Harry Ried said he knew a guy who said Romney never paid his taxes. You tell the same lies often enough and people believe them. Romney blew it in the third debate by not nailing Obama on Libya

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Personally I've reached a point where I do not believe my vote matters. With the Electoral College and Delegates, someone can win the popular vote but lose the Primary or General Election.
It seems campaign contributions can be limitless so to me it seems its all about money getting someone elected.
Not only is there the greed and power high most succumb to, but its become a family business both locally and nationally: Stroger, Daley, Kennedy & Bush.....
I've become quite disillusioned and disgusted with the candidates and the process. I get that all of you servicemen fought and died for the people's right to have a vote, but I would think some are "rolling in their graves" to see what it's become.
agree with some of your thoughts ....

President is a rich man's contest... and a media backing ... the electoral college does need an overhaul , the two party system still works , any more and congress will be in turmoil all the time ..

but a president should be qualified in politics before seeking office.. a year as a jr. senator to me doesn't endear me with your thumb on the button

LBJ was the most productive president of the USA for civil right than any other..why ... because he had 40 years of political clout

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agree with some of your thoughts ....
President is a rich man's contest... and a media backing ... the electoral college does need an overhaul , the two party system still works , any more and congress will be in turmoil all the time ..
but a president should be qualified in politics before seeking office.. a year as a jr. senator to me doesn't endear me with your thumb on the button
LBJ was the most productive president of the USA for civil right than any other..why ... because he had 40 years of political clout
LBJ was the best politician we have had in a very long time. His great society welfare program turned blacks from being Republican to Democrat. He destroyed the black family. You couldn't get welfare with a married man home. He created through his war and welfare a huge inflation that robbed a generation of savings. Obama's Socialism will do the same thing. We borrow 46 cents for every dollar we spend and we are buying our own debt while we print more and more money that make the dollar worth less and less. A tax you can see but devaluation of the currency is the worst tax possible. Every man woman and child owes over $50,000 of the national debt

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tallyho wrote:
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the media can and does control the trend of the thinking public.... LENO/OPRAH/MEDIA elected the 1st Afro-Amer president in history ....
Obama was duly sworn in: he became the 1st black President...
re-election the profile of Leno/Oprah/media was subdued ...
correct me if I'm wrong , but isn't your government's political woes be more of a concern to you
WHIle canada is an independant country we are in many ways more like the 51st state ... what affects the USA affects us, because our economies are so intertwined .... so it pays ot know your politics as well as our own.

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tallyho wrote:
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the media can and does control the trend of the thinking public.... LENO/OPRAH/MEDIA elected the 1st Afro-Amer president in history ....
Obama was duly sworn in: he became the 1st black President...
re-election the profile of Leno/Oprah/media was subdued ...
correct me if I'm wrong , but isn't your government's political woes be more of a concern to you
as further evidnece ... the TSX is our equivalent of the DOW JONES .... watch as they closely follow each other almost every day .... maybe once in 5 days does one go up while the other goes down ...

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tallyho wrote:
<quoted text>agree with some of your thoughts ....

President is a rich man's contest... and a media backing ... the electoral college does need an overhaul , the two party system still works , any more and congress will be in turmoil all the time ..

but a president should be qualified in politics before seeking office.. a year as a jr. senator to me doesn't endear me with your thumb on the button

LBJ was the most productive president of the USA for civil right than any other..why ... because he had 40 years of political clout
You may have missed my post(s) where I said I have no use for Obama --- I did not vote for him in 2008 and I not even vote in 2012. I live in Illinois and voted for him as Senator. From the day he was sworn in he worked in his Pres campaign and did little or nothing for his constituents. He lied to us & betrayed us & did not do the job for which he was elected.

Having said that, as much as have little respect and use for Obama, I have greater disdain and disrespect and lack of trust on every Republican I have seen in at least the last 10 years. That's why I refused to vote in the last election: on principle I would not vote for Obama and there was no way in H I'd vote for a Republican, let alone Mitt Romney.

What we need is a viable third party.

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Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>The Democrats were far better at defining Romney. He is rich, he closed business, a woman died from cancer because of Romney, Even the head of the senate Harry Ried said he knew a guy who said Romney never paid his taxes. You tell the same lies often enough and people believe them. Romney blew it in the third debate by not nailing Obama on Libya
Your second to last sentence, cuts both ways. And irrespective of Romney "nailing Obama on Libya", the republicans and Romney alienated too many already oppressed groups: women, gays, minorities, and even seniors and some small business owners & retired military I know.

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<quoted text>WHIle canada is an independant country we are in many ways more like the 51st state ... what affects the USA affects us, because our economies are so intertwined .... so it pays ot know your politics as well as our own.
agreed , but know it

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<quoted text>as further evidnece ... the TSX is our equivalent of the DOW JONES .... watch as they closely follow each other almost every day .... maybe once in 5 days does one go up while the other goes down ...
the international stock market is the creator

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You may have missed my post(s) where I said I have no use for Obama --- I did not vote for him in 2008 and I not even vote in 2012. I live in Illinois and voted for him as Senator. From the day he was sworn in he worked in his Pres campaign and did little or nothing for his constituents. He lied to us & betrayed us & did not do the job for which he was elected.
Having said that, as much as have little respect and use for Obama, I have greater disdain and disrespect and lack of trust on every Republican I have seen in at least the last 10 years. That's why I refused to vote in the last election: on principle I would not vote for Obama and there was no way in H I'd vote for a Republican, let alone Mitt Romney.
What we need is a viable third party.
Many countries have a strong third party, some even have 4. When the winner does not have an outright majority (the combined opposition can outvote them) then the coalition government scenario takes effect .... and sometimes that may be a fair appraoch because the swing vote will belong to the third party and they might vote either way sometimes, ensuring only bills with good policies go through.

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RMQuinn37 wrote:
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You may have missed my post(s) where I said I have no use for Obama --- I did not vote for him in 2008 and I not even vote in 2012. I live in Illinois and voted for him as Senator. From the day he was sworn in he worked in his Pres campaign and did little or nothing for his constituents. He lied to us & betrayed us & did not do the job for which he was elected.
Having said that, as much as have little respect and use for Obama, I have greater disdain and disrespect and lack of trust on every Republican I have seen in at least the last 10 years. That's why I refused to vote in the last election: on principle I would not vote for Obama and there was no way in H I'd vote for a Republican, let alone Mitt Romney.
What we need is a viable third party.
I really care less .... your voting habits are of your choosing... but I did not speak of a named president I spoke of the office of the president .... big diff

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