El's Kitchen

[eleanorigby]

franko wrote:

<quoted text>and just like the W turned to M, my frown is turned upside down ....

Good one!

[Grace Nerissa]

eleanorigby wrote:

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I dunno what to think quite honestly, the crowd have smelled blood, and this is nothing short of a public flogging. Seems the issues of cheating are taking second place to money matters. imho

Morning El..
Morning all...

I've said it before and I will again,
I agree with you here,
we ALL know [and you have said this too]
what ARMSTRONG is guilty of,
that he turned out to be a cheat, a 1st class liar,
a sneak etc.. we all read about it..

but, like you say, it is done & dusted..
his career is ruined before the whole world,
he got his just desserts and STILL people
are 'baying for blood'..

Interesting, it reminds me of a case here,
VERY DIFFERENT SUBJECT MATTER, granted, but,
the same in that 'the public won't let it go.

Tis about a paedophile who served every day of a LONG
sentence for his wrong doings..
when he was freed, the media and the public followed him EVERYWHERE,
they hounded him night and day, it was up for grabs,
where he lived now, where he was going to live permanently,
where he went, what he did,
on one occasion, he traveled by train,
media were at the rail stn. before he left and their media
mates were at the other end in a rural town waiting for
his arrival,
then he went abroad AND, yes, the media followed.

Yes, before anyone mentions it WE ALL KNOW the crime of paedophilia
but where's the point at all in someone serving a very long sentence
and not allowed to live 'any kind of life' when they emerge.

[eleanorigby]

Grace Nerissa wrote:

<quoted text>
Morning El..
Morning all...
I've said it before and I will again,
I agree with you here,
we ALL know [and you have said this too]
what ARMSTRONG is guilty of,
that he turned out to be a cheat, a 1st class liar,
a sneak etc.. we all read about it..
but, like you say, it is done & dusted..
his career is ruined before the whole world,
he got his just desserts and STILL people
are 'baying for blood'..
Interesting, it reminds me of a case here,
VERY DIFFERENT SUBJECT MATTER, granted, but,
the same in that 'the public won't let it go.
Tis about a paedophile who served every day of a LONG
sentence for his wrong doings..
when he was freed, the media and the public followed him EVERYWHERE,
they hounded him night and day, it was up for grabs,
where he lived now, where he was going to live permanently,
where he went, what he did,
on one occasion, he traveled by train,
media were at the rail stn. before he left and their media
mates were at the other end in a rural town waiting for
his arrival,
then he went abroad AND, yes, the media followed.
Yes, before anyone mentions it WE ALL KNOW the crime of paedophilia
but where's the point at all in someone serving a very long sentence
and not allowed to live 'any kind of life' when they emerge.

Good Morning Grace
and Good Morning All

I agree wholeheartedly, that is paramount to torture, I have
heard of this happening here only recently as it happens,
word got out that there was a peodophile living in a nearby
village, within no time the whole village was outside his
house, windows broken, the man had served his time but he
wasn't going to be allowed to live in peace, he moved and
was not seen in these parts again.
Granted it is a terrible thing to molest a small child, and
anybody who has been found guilty of doing so, it is understandable
that 'an eye' should be kept open in order to prevent any further
such assault, but it has to be taken into account, that the
'authorities' considered the person to be no longer a risk to
society, that should be honoured and discretion put into play.
Delicate subject Grace, but everybody deserves a second chance.

[PFfff]

Bora Da Everyone!
lol hope i spelled that right..
:)

El/Grace

hate to disagree with u both, but IMO peodophiles dont deserve to live in peace, afterall that child will Never be able to do so, that child's memory is Forever intact and therefore he/she will Always have to live with this persons selfish/disgusting act..
that childs pain NEVER goes away.

[PFfff]

anyway, snow is on the way for my area. winter has finally arrived and mother nature isnt messing around now. lol

Happy Weekend...

:))

[eleanorigby]

PFfff wrote:

Bora Da Everyone!
lol hope i spelled that right..
:)
El/Grace
hate to disagree with u both, but IMO peodophiles dont deserve to live in peace, afterall that child will Never be able to do so, that child's memory is Forever intact and therefore he/she will Always have to live with this persons selfish/disgusting act..
that childs pain NEVER goes away.

Bore Da Pretty Feet,

it's me what spelt it wrong initially, lol, as I spelt it how
it is pronounced!

Two sides to every story isn't there, like myself, you have young
grandchildren, and we put ourselves into the equation, but whatever
the crime committed, be it burglary, child molestation (and I
feel so strongly about that the words stick in my throat) if the
person responsible is found guilty, sentenced and served a sentence, usually it would be a lengthy one, then that person should not be at
the mercy of a blood thirsty crowd, which is exactly the situation
the fellow I mentioned above, was in.
Gone are the days of stocks in the village square! The court has dealt with it, sentence served, he has paid his dues.
A more severe crime warrants a life sentence.

[PFfff]

eleanorigby wrote:

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Bore Da Pretty Feet,
it's me what spelt it wrong initially, lol, as I spelt it how
it is pronounced!
Two sides to every story isn't there, like myself, you have young
grandchildren, and we put ourselves into the equation, but whatever
the crime committed, be it burglary, child molestation (and I
feel so strongly about that the words stick in my throat) if the
person responsible is found guilty, sentenced and served a sentence, usually it would be a lengthy one, then that person should not be at
the mercy of a blood thirsty crowd, which is exactly the situation
the fellow I mentioned above, was in.
Gone are the days of stocks in the village square! The court has dealt with it, sentence served, he has paid his dues.
A more severe crime warrants a life sentence.

well El looks and sounds better to me as Bora, so it probably will stick in my head that way. lol

actually El, i speak from my own experience and feel strongly on the subject because of it, and the worse part is the percentage of girls (in particular) of being sexually abused at some point in their young life is high enough to warrant a life sentence to Any abuser IMO. afterall it IS a life sentence, in a way, to that child. and because i have female grandchildren i feel even Stronger now in my views. so to me it IS a severe crime that Should have a life sentence automatically. we need as a society to protect our children, because the probability of these men changing their ways isnt high enough to make me feel comfortable in letting them out to possibly harm other children.
so if i sound blood thirsty its because i am and it about time others feel the same way with regards to the scum of the earth.

its our duty to protect our children, in any way legally possible and thats what im for - All the way! i say, to h*ll with these dirtbags..

[Denny Crain]

eleanorigby wrote:

<quoted text>
Good one!

Good morning El. Whats cookin in the kitchen :)

[Denny Crain]

eleanorigby wrote:

<quoted text>
Good Morning Grace
and Good Morning All
I agree wholeheartedly, that is paramount to torture, I have
heard of this happening here only recently as it happens,
word got out that there was a peodophile living in a nearby
village, within no time the whole village was outside his
house, windows broken, the man had served his time but he
wasn't going to be allowed to live in peace, he moved and
was not seen in these parts again.
Granted it is a terrible thing to molest a small child, and
anybody who has been found guilty of doing so, it is understandable
that 'an eye' should be kept open in order to prevent any further
such assault, but it has to be taken into account, that the
'authorities' considered the person to be no longer a risk to
society, that should be honoured and discretion put into play.
Delicate subject Grace, but everybody deserves a second chance.

It hasn't been that long ago that the age of consent for a girl was 12 :) Sounds strange today. Jerry Lee married his 13 year old cousin

[Denny Crain]

PFfff wrote:

anyway, snow is on the way for my area. winter has finally arrived and mother nature isnt messing around now. lol
Happy Weekend...
:))

You used the S word :) Keep warm

[Grace Nerissa]

El & PFfft,

Thank you both for your replies
AND your valued opinions..

Interestingly, there's quite a controversial
case going on here just now,
about a father [72] who sexually abused his
daughter for a period of 10 years..

It went to court and just last week, he got
a 10 year SUSPENDED sentence,
and was allowed continuing bail ..
he walked away.!!!

There is a serious public outcry here
over it, people angrily expressed
their outrage in various ways,
marching etc.. contacting the Government, etc.
and it has gone back for review.

[eleanorigby]

PFfff wrote:

<quoted text>
well El looks and sounds better to me as Bora, so it probably will stick in my head that way. lol
actually El, i speak from my own experience and feel strongly on the subject because of it, and the worse part is the percentage of girls (in particular) of being sexually abused at some point in their young life is high enough to warrant a life sentence to Any abuser IMO. afterall it IS a life sentence, in a way, to that child. and because i have female grandchildren i feel even Stronger now in my views. so to me it IS a severe crime that Should have a life sentence automatically. we need as a society to protect our children, because the probability of these men changing their ways isnt high enough to make me feel comfortable in letting them out to possibly harm other children.
so if i sound blood thirsty its because i am and it about time others feel the same way with regards to the scum of the earth.
its our duty to protect our children, in any way legally possible and thats what im for - All the way! i say, to h*ll with these dirtbags..

I have been thinking about this conversation all morning PF..
thinking what I would do if it happened to any of mine.
There was an occasion one time when one of mine was threatened
in a different manner and I can tell you I didn't let it go
lightly. Like you would not believe.
Not that I am saying I regard mine as more important than other
people's children.
But what I would like to know is...what would YOU say is the answer..
once someone has served time and is now released into society?

[eleanorigby]

Grace Nerissa wrote:

El & PFfft,
Thank you both for your replies
AND your valued opinions..
Interestingly, there's quite a controversial
case going on here just now,
about a father [72] who sexually abused his
daughter for a period of 10 years..
It went to court and just last week, he got
a 10 year SUSPENDED sentence,
and was allowed continuing bail ..
he walked away.!!!
There is a serious public outcry here
over it, people angrily expressed
their outrage in various ways,
marching etc.. contacting the Government, etc.
and it has gone back for review.

Grace..is that the case where the daughter became a Lawyer so she could sue her own father?

Would appreciate your views on the question I have thrown out to PF
if you wouldn't mind.

[eleanorigby]

Denny Crain wrote:

<quoted text>It hasn't been that long ago that the age of consent for a girl was 12 :) Sounds strange today. Jerry Lee married his 13 year old cousin

True.'Morning Denny.

[Denny Crain]

eleanorigby wrote:

<quoted text>
I have been thinking about this conversation all morning PF..
thinking what I would do if it happened to any of mine.
There was an occasion one time when one of mine was threatened
in a different manner and I can tell you I didn't let it go
lightly. Like you would not believe.
Not that I am saying I regard mine as more important than other
people's children.
But what I would like to know is...what would YOU say is the answer..
once someone has served time and is now released into society?

Sexual predators are repeat offenders

[Denny Crain]

eleanorigby wrote:

<quoted text>
True.'Morning Denny.

Good morning El. I am feeling better today :)

[Denny Crain]

RMQuinn37 wrote:

<quoted text>
Yay! Denny!! Did not want that cough turning into something worse.
Have a wonderful day.

I feel great and it is a warm day so I am going to hand out some flyers :)

[eleanorigby]

Denny Crain wrote:

<quoted text>Good morning El. I am feeling better today :)

Glad to hear it Denny.

Good Night, and 'Night to all who visit here.

[Grace Nerissa]

eleanorigby wrote:

<quoted text>
Grace..is that the case where the daughter became a Lawyer so she could sue her own father?
Would appreciate your views on the question I have thrown out to PF
if you wouldn't mind.

NO El,
[but that WAS another v interesting case]

Here is the link to the recent one i spoke of,
and there have been developments today:

In reply to the question you put
forward..
and I preface it by saying that CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE
is a most heinous crime [stating the obvious]

and I agree a VERY TIGHT rein MUST be kept
on the perpetrator .. as we know, this is
something an abuser is likely to return to.

but...
I believe if 'he/she' shows remorse,
and is prepared to go straight, yes,
they SHOULD be given that chance ..
having served a long sentence..

perhaps they HAVE reformed..

and where's the point in serving at all..
if, when it's over, they aren't allowed
live A sort of life, with a new beginning.
AND MOST DEFINITELY under serious supervision
by professionals NOT by 'media'
with DOLLAR signs before their eyes - who just
want to sell papers with sordid stories..

[Grace Nerissa]

Here's the link I intended for above post
to El

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/...