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Since: Nov 09

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#22274 Jan 21, 2013
All in all: Armstrong set himself up to be above the law, and it's always seems to be borne out -- the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/lance-armstrong-...

"At one point during the interview, he couldn't recall how many people he'd sued. Really. He not only didn't know the number, he couldn't even be sure when asked about specific individuals that his mighty, powerful legal team relentlessly tried to bury.

It's worth noting that many of the people he's sued through the years in an effort to protect his lies and glory were one-time close friends, roommates, teammates, business partners and associates. "

[Luke addition: Wetzel had previously written about those Armstrong and company squashed by lawsuits and threats in a article I linked in an earlier post]

"At one point Armstrong addressed Betsy Andreu, the wife of a former teammate Frankie Andreu, who testified that while lying in a hospital bed in 1996 Armstrong told his doctor that he had doped.

Over the years Lance and his henchman bullied and bruised Betsy relentlessly. They called her names. They tried to wipe her out. They, according to Betsy, blackballed her husband's career. She kept standing up and speaking out. There was even a voicemail from an Armstrong associate who said she hoped "somebody breaks a baseball bat over your head."

Lance knows he was terrible to Betsy so he said he called her the other day to begin making amends. You know for, among other things, calling her "crazy." He decided to tell Oprah about it, including what is apparently his idea of a sense of humor.

"I did call her crazy," he said. "I did. I did … I think she'd be OK with me saying this, I said,'Listen, I called you crazy; I called you a bitch; I called you all of these things, but I never called you fat.' "

Then he smirked.

Now that's a novel way to gain forgiveness: make a fat joke about a woman on national television. "

"Across the spectrum there is fury and regret. Mike Anderson, a former personal assistant who claims Lance tried to ruin him, avoided watching the interview. Then he inadvertently was exposed to a replayed segment while waiting to comment on CNN.

"I didn't want to hear his voice ever again," Anderson said.

Fellow riders say they wish they'd never hooked on with him. Support staff claim they wish they'd never taken a job. Sponsors are lining up to sue. Journalists who carried his water for years are writing they wish they'd never bought the lie. "

******"He was, and likely remains, nothing but a machine of personal glorification, no concept of his real place in the world. Now that the truth is out, it's not about the cheating so much as it's about the way he fought dirty to protect the cheating. " *****[In the Wetzel article I posted previously, he addressed this idea about this is about the nastiness more than cheating when the sport is dirty now anyway ...]

"Consider Emma O'Reilly, an Irish massage therapist who began working for his team while in her 20s. She later told the truth about Lance and drugs. For that she's testified Team Armstrong responded by calling her a whore and a drunk. But Armstrong didn't stop there. No, he tried to sue into oblivion this woman of limited financial means.

What did Armstrong say of Emma? He couldn't remember if he even attempted legal action against her.

"To be honest Oprah," he chuckled lightly, "we sued so many people, I'm sure we did." "

“Happiness is a warm gun”

Since: Nov 09

Hey Bungalow Bill, waddya kill

#22275 Jan 21, 2013
tony1003 wrote:
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I think it is witch hunt that he brought upon himself. He was so ready to go to the courts to deny what he was actually doing - he was bullying and controlling towards all around him and now he wants to cry, "not fair" to his just punishment for bringing the sport into disrepute. I have a hatred of drugs in sport - destroys all that the point of the competion has.
I hear what you say about his charity work - but even that to a degree was self-serving. Personally, if the guy disappeared from the limelight, that would suit me fine. I am sorry that his behaviour is bound to damage what is a worthwhile charity - maybe he should have considered that. I would point out that our own Sir Bradley Wiggins doesn't have much good to say about him.
Agreed!

This 'scandal' is about way more than doping.

“ain't she sweet?”

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#22276 Jan 21, 2013
Boomer7 wrote:
All of this chatter about potatoes... Steak and fries tonight!
You guys started this...
LOL!
Works for me!

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#22277 Jan 21, 2013
tony1003 wrote:
<quoted text>Me, me (waves had wildly), I call them by their correct name - chips. But then, what I call a rubber is not quite what our American friends refer to as that!
Chips get dipped in French onion dip, French fries are good with burgers, hot dogs & battered deep fried fish!

“Happiness is a warm gun”

Since: Nov 09

Hey Bungalow Bill, waddya kill

#22278 Jan 21, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
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Hear Hear! A true Gent.
Well ... thank you m'lady! Last evening, I watched Downton Abbey Season 3 (hour 4, or episode 3 here). D.A. is must-see TV.

Second season of Call The Midwife starts here in March. OH, have you watched vids of Season 1, or have you done any reading about character sketches to get back-stories of them?

“Happiness is a warm gun”

Since: Nov 09

Hey Bungalow Bill, waddya kill

#22279 Jan 21, 2013
PFfff wrote:
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:)
i am a worrywart by nature, so just ignore me. lol
but.. in my defense only because i have no computer smarts and wouldnt know how to defend myself if need be.
but i trust everyone here in El's kitchen, the people i call "normal" - visit here..
lol
:)
:)

Ignore you ... no way! You're in the 'normal' group too!

:)
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#22280 Jan 21, 2013
Deer Whisperer wrote:
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:)
Ignore you ... no way! You're in the 'normal' group too!
:)
Enjoy talking to yourself much?

“Happiness is a warm gun”

Since: Nov 09

Hey Bungalow Bill, waddya kill

#22281 Jan 21, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
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LOL Quincy.
They are sad lyrics are they not, and the overall feeling that is
conveyed is the feeling of loneliness.
But as with all song lyrics, and poetry, the key is forming your own interpretation.
There are those who would say (those without a great degree of imagination it has to be said) that the line about keeping her face in ajar by the door..means just that, that she refuses to leave the house without make-up.
Then are those who would think it to mean that she puts on a cheerful demeanour fopr the world to see...to hid the pain of loneliness....
Father McKenzie could be literally wiping the dirt from his hands after flinging earth onto the coffin as it finds it's final resting place...
Or, he could be metaphorically 'wiping his hands of the whole affair'
as the phrase goes.
Buried in the Church along with her name...no descendants
You just have to go with what you yourself believe they story means.
There are times I feel bad about taking on the name of a person who was a real life individual...a young lady who served as a scullery maid in Liverpool...died young. I am intrigued at times to know a little more about her.
May I have a word,{{{ Cuz El }}}

This weekend I took a trip to historic England

http://www.pilotguides.com/tv_shows/globe_tre...

Included was a brief bit of a street presenter relating that Strawberry Fields was a Salvation Army children's home in Liverpool, England where John Lennon often played as a child. The Salvation Army band was a catalyst at that age to want to be in a band.
And a brief bit and scene about Stonehenge along the way to Glastonbury.

I have also seen (twice) a different episode of this program pertaining visits to Scotland, Wales, and England. I learned about shin-kicking contests! OUCH!!! Makes me wince.

“ain't she sweet?”

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#22282 Jan 21, 2013
Brighteyes9 wrote:
<quoted text>That's hilarious....what about Dickies. The kind of dickies that women would wear around their necks!? An older friend of ours as talking about the dickies that she used to wear and she wishes they ere still around. Before I found out hat she was talking about, I as laughing hysterically. Ms. El, Quinn, Grace and others, do you know of these dickies?
Yep. I remember dickies. I think they may have going out of style by the time I came around but I'm also pretty sure I know what they are and likely wore one way back when.

“Happiness is a warm gun”

Since: Nov 09

Hey Bungalow Bill, waddya kill

#22283 Jan 21, 2013
Good Tuesday wishes, Kitchen-eers!

And warmth in all things.:)

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#22284 Jan 21, 2013
Deer Whisperer wrote:
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Fries! But, we do have chips too -- home made and commercially made and packaged.
A versatile word .... can be slipped on in wet, sloppy weather for dry feet!
Galoshes! LOL

“guess who Lois?”

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Since: Dec 06

A little hole in the wall.

#22285 Jan 21, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
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That makes two...and can we say Krypteia calls them chips,
makes three....
haha..what would they make of us having a rubber on the end
of a pencil?
when people are being mean to a guy they might call him a pencil dick ... so maybe not out of line then?

“guess who Lois?”

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Since: Dec 06

A little hole in the wall.

#22286 Jan 21, 2013
eleanorigby wrote:
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Thanks Franko...life altering at the time, but it all works
out eventually. And you are quite right, it's something for
the media to discuss.
Hope all is well with you and yours.
was there ever an optoin to get something back through legal means??? Over here they have large groups get together and do a "class action suit" so their combined power is enough to take on those who wronged them. I am sure this can be done in the UK?

“Ignore the trolls”

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Since: Oct 08

Bath, UK

#22287 Jan 21, 2013
RMQuinn37 wrote:
Hey Tony?! Is that UK newspaper going to sue Lance Armstrong to get the money back since he perjured himself?
The paper was slandered!!!
I don't know, rumour has it that they are going after him to recover the money - though knowing lawyers, how much that will cost I would hate to guess. Given it was The Times, I suspect they will.

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Bath, UK

#22288 Jan 21, 2013
RMQuinn37 wrote:
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Chips get dipped in French onion dip, French fries are good with burgers, hot dogs & battered deep fried fish!
Now look here you colonial chappies. We were calling them chips back at least to 1860. If you want to make reference to those odd fellows across the ENGLISH Channel in your potatoes with burgers, feel free. Don't expect me to join you - we have 400 years of animosity towards them and we do try not to talk about them in any way!!!

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#22289 Jan 21, 2013
Yes - it has arrived! Awoke this morning to a light covering of snow - the spirits have lifted. No doubt it will be melted by lunchtime, but in the lights from the houses, it looks great. Third time we've had snow in my 13 years of living down here, which gives you some idea of the delight.

“guess who Lois?”

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Since: Dec 06

A little hole in the wall.

#22290 Jan 21, 2013
tony1003 wrote:
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I don't know, rumour has it that they are going after him to recover the money - though knowing lawyers, how much that will cost I would hate to guess. Given it was The Times, I suspect they will.
they say in most legal actions the only one who wins is the lawyer.
60s chic

Allentown, PA

#22291 Jan 21, 2013
tony1003 wrote:
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Now look here you colonial chappies. We were calling them chips back at least to 1860. If you want to make reference to those odd fellows across the ENGLISH Channel in your potatoes with burgers, feel free. Don't expect me to join you - we have 400 years of animosity towards them and we do try not to talk about them in any way!!!
My daughter was married to a man from The United Kingdom. Lived in a little town called Rainford, near Manchester, or Liverpool. I loved his accent and manners. Unfortunately the marriage didn't last, but I will never forget him. He called potato chips - crisps and said that it was scarce to find peanut butter at the grocery stores, so I would send a few jars from time to time. While they were living here for a few months, I served my then son-in-law some tea and biscuits on an English tray. He got a big kick out of that and said that he wasn't much for tea, but he appreciated it. I felt rather foolish but he was so sweet about it that I wasn't offended in the least. I never met his family but spoke with them a few times on the phone. So warm, polite and very family orientated. My son-in-law-s favorite dish was Kidney Pie and I never learned how to make it, although I was planning to before they broke up. I have a few pics of my daughter and son-in-law that were taken in a local ale house in Manchester. It has either closed or was renamed. Not sure, but I think it was called "The England and Child", or is it the Eagle and Child? Can't remember!

“CHEERING UK IN OLYMPICS”

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#22292 Jan 22, 2013
Brighteyes9 wrote:
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That's hilarious....what about Dickies. The kind of dickies that women would wear around their necks!? An older friend of ours as talking about the dickies that she used to wear and she wishes they ere still around. Before I found out hat she was talking about, I as laughing hysterically. Ms. El, Quinn, Grace and others, do you know of these dickies?
So funny..divided by a common language! LOL I know OF those Dickies,
we called them Dickie Bows, I don't recall them being in fashion for
ladies, but men wore them with a dinner jacket if I'm not mistaken.
I have been known to wear a regular tie, loosely knotted with an
open neck white shirt blouse in my younger days, considered myself looking ever so kinky. lol

“CHEERING UK IN OLYMPICS”

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#22293 Jan 22, 2013
franko wrote:
<quoted text>was there ever an optoin to get something back through legal means??? Over here they have large groups get together and do a "class action suit" so their combined power is enough to take on those who wronged them. I am sure this can be done in the UK?
Wouldn't you think there would be that option, but sadly, no.
Fortunately the newspaper he worked for made up a little of the difference.
The annoying thing was, the Maxwell Brothers were granted Legal
Aid at the taxpayers expense....
Like an idiot I found it sad that RW paid for it with his life.

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