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#20707 Dec 30, 2012
tallyho wrote:
<quoted text>
to break-in after the wars we had free fruit/cheese/juice/milk
why war surpluses , to all schools
I remember having free milk in school, a third of a pint, not
sure of my facts as to what was available here.
I seem to remember Cod Liver Oil and Malt...not sure if it was
free at the clinic.

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#20708 Dec 30, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>Man try a little BBQ on a stiuffed potato and you have a full meat and potatoes meal YUM :)
I forgot my all around favorite, hash browns! Melted cheese, bacon bits, and onions. Too yummy...

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#20709 Dec 30, 2012
Good morning and afternoon to all!
Lady El, we received a gift of smoked salmon for the holiday and forgot completely. We will dine on that New Years Eve with cream cheese and bagel bites. The leftovers will find their way to the pub on New Years Day!
We will give a toast that day to all of the kitchen goers.
Cold and snowy here in the Midwest, Ohio, anyway...
Enjoy your day folks.
Peace.

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#20710 Dec 30, 2012
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>I remember having free milk in school, a third of a pint, not
sure of my facts as to what was available here.
I seem to remember Cod Liver Oil and Malt...not sure if it was
free at the clinic.
Memories of Cod Liver Oil! Growing up, my mom would administer a tablespoon full as soon as you had the sniffles or a cough. Never missed a day of school because of a cold. And no, my mum was not from the UK. At times I thought she was... Tea and biscuits with fruit in the Spring and Fall! Didn't quite understand that then...

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#20711 Dec 30, 2012
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>I have made a note of that, and will look around for a copy, should find on Amazon. I am impressed with Amazon, I have a monthly subscription for quality pet food, it is delivered free of charge, which helps keep the costs down, plus, my lugging it back from the shops.
Anyway, am digressing. The working...and living ..conditions in which our ancestors had were appalling, there and here. They lived like pigs, they had no choice, yet had decent trades.
Many Irish came to Manchester, England, before, during, and slightly after The Famine. They were greeted with boarding houses displaying signs which read 'No Dogs, No Irish'. Pretty disgusting.
I had occasion to take a trip down the Manchester Ship Canal from Liverpool to Manchester..learnt on that voyage how the Irish had painstakingly cut out the canal, working all the hours God sends, for very little reward. Men who had trades at their fingertips.
Then again Quincy, the men who worked in the Quarries here worked in dreadful conditions..no health and safety then, those who travelled here from Anglesey stayed in Baracks...the quarry owners (English) horses stables were far more grand..and water proof with it. Yet the quarry workers never swore, they built schools for their children so they would have a better chance than they, yet they even had to buy their own water...which was rain water.
Makes my blood boil!
Discussing it with other emigres like myself, I hear 'well, at least they had work'...!!!
I suppose part the horror of it is the fact that they we promised gold laden streets and a better life and essentially walked into slave labor. The people were lied to.

Even in the US 50, 60 or better years ago, my uncle worked in the steel mills -- those jobs like many were unbearable conditions because of the type job they did ....... Intolerably high heat and fire, filth from the dirt and dust, lost hearing from the noise, and the occasional death when someone fell from the scaffolding into the fire.

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#20712 Dec 30, 2012
Boomer7 wrote:
Good morning and afternoon to all!
Lady El, we received a gift of smoked salmon for the holiday and forgot completely. We will dine on that New Years Eve with cream cheese and bagel bites. The leftovers will find their way to the pub on New Years Day!
We will give a toast that day to all of the kitchen goers.
Cold and snowy here in the Midwest, Ohio, anyway...
Enjoy your day folks.
Peace.
'Afternoon Boomer...Manna from Heaven that smoked salmon. Does
sound a nice combination, will join you and Brighteyes in a toast
to all our friends here in the kitchen, old and new.

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#20713 Dec 30, 2012
RMQuinn37 wrote:
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I suppose part the horror of it is the fact that they we promised gold laden streets and a better life and essentially walked into slave labor. The people were lied to.
Even in the US 50, 60 or better years ago, my uncle worked in the steel mills -- those jobs like many were unbearable conditions because of the type job they did ....... Intolerably high heat and fire, filth from the dirt and dust, lost hearing from the noise, and the occasional death when someone fell from the scaffolding into the fire.
No benefits in those days Quincy, they did what they had to do to survive, to us in 2012 it is appalling what they were forced to endure.
And...they did it for us!

This always moves me...maybe you remember the tune..

Lyrics
"The Mountains of Mourne" by Percy French (1896)

Oh, Mary, this London's a wonderful sight, With people all working by day and by night. Sure they don't sow potatoes, nor barley, nor wheat, But there's gangs of them digging for gold in the street.

At least when I asked them that's what I was told, So I just took a hand at this digging for gold, But for all that I found there I might as well be Where the Mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea.

I believe that when writing a wish you expressed As to know how the fine ladies in London were dressed, Well if you'll believe me, when asked to a ball, They don't wear no top to their dresses at all, Oh I've seen them meself and you could not in truth, Say that if they were bound for a ball or a bath.

Don't be starting such fashions, now, Mary mo chroi, Where the Mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea.

I've seen England's king from the top of a bus And I've never known him, but he means to know us.
And tho' by the Saxon we once were oppressed, Still I cheered, God forgive me, I cheered with the rest.
And now that he's visited Erin's green shore We'll be much better friends than we've been heretofore When we've got all we want, we're as quiet as can be Where the mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea.

You remember young Peter O'Loughlin, of course, Well, now he is here at the head of the force.
I met him today, I was crossing the Strand, And he stopped the whole street with a wave of his hand.
And there we stood talkin' of days that are gone, While the whole population of London looked on.
But for all these great powers he's wishful like me, To be back where the dark Mourne sweeps down to the sea.
There's beautiful girls here, oh never you mind, With beautiful shapes nature never designed, And lovely complexions all roses and cream, But let me remark with regard to the same: That if of those roses you venture to sip, The colours might all come away on your lip, So I'll wait for the wild rose that's waiting for me In the place where the dark Mourne sweeps down to the sea..

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#20714 Dec 30, 2012
Boomer7 wrote:
<quoted text>
Memories of Cod Liver Oil! Growing up, my mom would administer a tablespoon full as soon as you had the sniffles or a cough. Never missed a day of school because of a cold. And no, my mum was not from the UK. At times I thought she was... Tea and biscuits with fruit in the Spring and Fall! Didn't quite understand that then...
Sounds a bit like my mum! Except we were given Syrup of Figs every Friday night (whether we needed it or not) and btw I still have Cod Liver Oil every day, it is a modified version and tastes really good
in comparison. Gotta have my Omega 3!

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#20715 Dec 30, 2012
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>No benefits in those days Quincy, they did what they had to do to survive, to us in 2012 it is appalling what they were forced to endure.
And...they did it for us!

This always moves me...maybe you remember the tune..

Lyrics
"The Mountains of Mourne" by Percy French (1896)

Oh, Mary, this London's a wonderful sight, With people all working by day and by night. Sure they don't sow potatoes, nor barley, nor wheat, But there's gangs of them digging for gold in the street.

At least when I asked them that's what I was told, So I just took a hand at this digging for gold, But for all that I found there I might as well be Where the Mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea.

I believe that when writing a wish you expressed As to know how the fine ladies in London were dressed, Well if you'll believe me, when asked to a ball, They don't wear no top to their dresses at all, Oh I've seen them meself and you could not in truth, Say that if they were bound for a ball or a bath.

Don't be starting such fashions, now, Mary mo chroi, Where the Mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea.

I've seen England's king from the top of a bus And I've never known him, but he means to know us.
And tho' by the Saxon we once were oppressed, Still I cheered, God forgive me, I cheered with the rest.
And now that he's visited Erin's green shore We'll be much better friends than we've been heretofore When we've got all we want, we're as quiet as can be Where the mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea.

You remember young Peter O'Loughlin, of course, Well, now he is here at the head of the force.
I met him today, I was crossing the Strand, And he stopped the whole street with a wave of his hand.
And there we stood talkin' of days that are gone, While the whole population of London looked on.
But for all these great powers he's wishful like me, To be back where the dark Mourne sweeps down to the sea.
There's beautiful girls here, oh never you mind, With beautiful shapes nature never designed, And lovely complexions all roses and cream, But let me remark with regard to the same: That if of those roses you venture to sip, The colours might all come away on your lip, So I'll wait for the wild rose that's waiting for me In the place where the dark Mourne sweeps down to the sea..
Quite moving...
Funny, songs and poems emerge in times of strife.
Trees, by Joyce Kilmer comes to mind.

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#20716 Dec 30, 2012
franko wrote:
<quoted text>Further to my last post ... fill a glass half full of water, then put in ice cubes so they float ... so the water reaches a line near the top of the glass .. then let the ice melt ... the water line will still be right where you drew the line on the glass.
Exactly. The only reason the level would increase is where ice is over land like the melt of a glacier. The amount of H2O is constant in the world whether it is in vapor or the ocean.http://www.iceagenow.com /Our_glaciers_are_growing_not_ melting.htm . Some areas are melting and some are growing. I hope this link went through. If you google you will see what I mean about to much information that contradict each other

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#20717 Dec 30, 2012
RMQuinn37 wrote:
<quoted text>
I have seen programs that suggest otherwise. Perhaps because of the colder temps in the arctic and their food chain.
Mighty Quinn there is so much hype out there is is very hard to find the truth. Google and you will see information both ways so you don't know who to believe

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#20718 Dec 30, 2012
tony1003 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Denny, ice is reducing EVERYWHERE - that is why yachts now sail the North West passage without having to use ice-breaking equipment. Here is one example:
http://www.openpassageexpedition.com/
It is a scientific impossibility for sea levels to rise without the melting of ice - the amount of water cannot remain the same.
Ozone holes over the arctic and antartic areas are very real, not bogus: here is one example of them:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/oc... .
I'm curious as to which castle you refer - in most cases, the silting up process is what causes a river to be less significant, not a drop in oceanic levels. Obviously, without knowing to which of the multitude of castles you refer, I can't make a comment.
Btw, research in UK universities is completely separate from the UK government and whilst they do provide some research funding, it would be paranoid to suggest this is for a political agenda - absolutely no evidence to substantiate that claim.
The castle was Bramber. The river was tidal and just west of Brighton. The amount of water is constant. It may be ice, vapor or liquid. The only increase in sea level would be ice that is over land melting and running into the sea

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#20719 Dec 30, 2012
tony1003 wrote:
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It also included housing for serving members of the US armed forces.
Even Romney backed off on the comment (which, given his dislike of ever admitting he was wrong, was unusual to say the least), yet it is still quoted as if it was accurate. It is clear that a proportion of the "47%" do vote Republican: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-575150... - so this was an epic political gaff he made.
Amusing little side comment - the quote is top of Yale's list of quotes of the year, poor ole Mitt even gets second place as well:
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/12/13/mitt-romn...
Tony his point was that people who don't pay federal tax are not very interested in the tax issue. Nothing wrong with people who don't pay tax it is just not their hot button issue. Just like guns is a hot botton issue for me people who don't have a gun background aren't interested in my hot button issue

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#20720 Dec 30, 2012
Boomer7 wrote:
Good morning and afternoon to all!
Lady El, we received a gift of smoked salmon for the holiday and forgot completely. We will dine on that New Years Eve with cream cheese and bagel bites. The leftovers will find their way to the pub on New Years Day!
We will give a toast that day to all of the kitchen goers.
Cold and snowy here in the Midwest, Ohio, anyway...
Enjoy your day folks.
Peace.
LOL I just finished a bagel with creme cheese salmon and onion with a honey and chive sauce. YUM

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#20721 Dec 30, 2012
eleanorigby wrote:
<quoted text>No benefits in those days Quincy, they did what they had to do to survive, to us in 2012 it is appalling what they were forced to endure.
And...they did it for us!

This always moves me...maybe you remember the tune..

Lyrics
"The Mountains of Mourne" by Percy French (1896)

Oh, Mary, this London's a wonderful sight, With people all working by day and by night. Sure they don't sow potatoes, nor barley, nor wheat, But there's gangs of them digging for gold in the street.

At least when I asked them that's what I was told, So I just took a hand at this digging for gold, But for all that I found there I might as well be Where the Mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea.

I believe that when writing a wish you expressed As to know how the fine ladies in London were dressed, Well if you'll believe me, when asked to a ball, They don't wear no top to their dresses at all, Oh I've seen them meself and you could not in truth, Say that if they were bound for a ball or a bath.

Don't be starting such fashions, now, Mary mo chroi, Where the Mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea.

I've seen England's king from the top of a bus And I've never known him, but he means to know us.
And tho' by the Saxon we once were oppressed, Still I cheered, God forgive me, I cheered with the rest.
And now that he's visited Erin's green shore We'll be much better friends than we've been heretofore When we've got all we want, we're as quiet as can be Where the mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea.

You remember young Peter O'Loughlin, of course, Well, now he is here at the head of the force.
I met him today, I was crossing the Strand, And he stopped the whole street with a wave of his hand.
And there we stood talkin' of days that are gone, While the whole population of London looked on.
But for all these great powers he's wishful like me, To be back where the dark Mourne sweeps down to the sea.
There's beautiful girls here, oh never you mind, With beautiful shapes nature never designed, And lovely complexions all roses and cream, But let me remark with regard to the same: That if of those roses you venture to sip, The colours might all come away on your lip, So I'll wait for the wild rose that's waiting for me In the place where the dark Mourne sweeps down to the sea..
Wow! Beautiful yet sorrowful at the same time.

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#20722 Dec 30, 2012
Boomer7 wrote:
<quoted text>
Quite moving...
Funny, songs and poems emerge in times of strife.
Trees, by Joyce Kilmer comes to mind.
'Trees' has a special place in my heart.
It was my Grandmother's favourite.....

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#20723 Dec 30, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>Mighty Quinn there is so much hype out there is is very hard to find the truth. Google and you will see information both ways so you don't know who to believe
Of anybody, I would take the word of WWF. jmo

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#20724 Dec 30, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>Mighty Quinn there is so much hype out there is is very hard to find the truth. Google and you will see information both ways so you don't know who to believe
True perhaps but that doesn't dismiss the fact that there are species of animals extinct by the hand of man; that corporate America isn't responsible for dumping toxic waste in the rivers and streams and ground water causing death & destruction; and is bulldozing rain forests which put oxygen in the atmosphere.

In Whiting Indiana underground oil tanks leaked into the ground water causing all manner of illness and cancer. I know this to be true -- I worked on litigation suits years ago.

In Blue Island Illinois, not far from where I currently live, several oil companies now finally closed, spewed oil and residue onto the homes & vehicles of the area to the point where the film could not be removed; oil continued to leak into the ground water causing consistent illness at the local area high school, businesses and homes; two of the oil companies had multiple explosions and fires over the years. U have no idea what was coming out of the smoke stacks, but the people in the area were irreparably harmed.

This has nothing to do with the climate per se, but it has everything to do with irresponsible business practices that harm people, animals, the food chain and the environment.

Believe me or don't. These two things happen to be in my area of the world. I have problems flipping between topix & google on my phone but feel free to search those two towns. Clark oil refinery was the biggest offender until I think it finally closed.

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#20725 Dec 30, 2012
eleanorigby wrote:
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Of anybody, I would take the word of WWF. jmo
What is that El? All I know is that exaggeration and plain lies are all around us. The media thrives on exaggerations. Just like the coverage of Katrina and Sandy is so different. The media is so bias and liberal they blamed Bush for Katrina and had nothing but praise for Obama and Sandy. People are still in terrible shape with no place to live months after Sandy but it is a non story. Do you think the press would have treated Bush the same way as they treated Obama on what happened in Libya? If Bush had put out a false story of what had happened and told those lies for weeks they would have called for his impeachment. Hillary hasn't testified in congress yet and it has been months since the attack

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#20726 Dec 30, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>Tony his point was that people who don't pay federal tax are not very interested in the tax issue. Nothing wrong with people who don't pay tax it is just not their hot button issue. Just like guns is a hot botton issue for me people who don't have a gun background aren't interested in my hot button issue
Alas dear Denny you did not respond to my points on the 47% issue. And BTW while you and they (the repubs) gripe about those below poverty level not paying taxes, it is my general understanding big corps like Shell don't either. Care to explain why no one criticizes that? Scr*w the lower/no taxes on speaking engagement fees or gains/losses on investments --- income is income and it should ALL be taxed.

Last time I checked, the threshold for "miscellaneous" deductions is 2% while the threshold for medical is 7%. That is fricking outrageous -- unless you're terminally ill and near death you can't catch a break.

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