Government affected by shutdown: Just...

Government affected by shutdown: Just 17%

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“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

Chicago, IL

#1 Oct 5, 2013

Everyone knows the phrase "government shutdown" doesn't mean the entire U.S. government is shut down. So in a partial government shutdown, like the one underway at the moment, how much of the government is actually shut down, and how much is not?

One way to measure that is in how much money the government spends. In a conversation Thursday, a Republican member of Congress mentioned that the military pay act, passed by Congress and signed by President Obama at the beginning of the shutdown, is actually a huge percentage of the government's discretionary spending in any given year. And that is still flowing. So if you took that money, and added it to all the entitlement spending that is unaffected by a shutdown, plus all the areas of spending that are exempted from a shutdown, and added it all together, how much of the federal government's total spending is still underway even though the government is technically shut down?

I asked a Republican source on the Senate Budget Committee for an estimate. This was the answer: "Based on estimates drawn from CBO and OMB data, 83 percent of government operations will continue. This figure assumes that the government pays amounts due on appropriations obligated before the shutdown ($512 billion), spends $225 billion on exempted military and civilian personnel, pays entitlement benefits for those found eligible before the shutdown (about $2 trillion), and pays interest costs when due ($237 billion). This is about 83 percent of projected 2014 spending of $3.6 trillion."

So the government shutdown, at least as measured by money spent, is really a 17 percent government shutdown. Perhaps that is why the effects of the shutdown, beyond some of the most visible problems, like at the monuments and memorials on the Washington Mall, don't seem to have the expected intensity. Seventeen percent of federal expenditures is still a huge amount of money, and the shutdown is affecting many people. But many more who are dependent on federal dollars are still receiving their money, either as salary, transfer payment, or in some other form. Viewed that way, it's no wonder both Republicans and Democrats appear to believe they can last the shutdown out, at least for a couple of weeks until they try to resolve the debt limit crisis due to arrive October 17.
And still, it's 'necessary' to shutdown open air war memorials and a multitude of locales, common areas, that normally have no paid staff running them.

Huh. Smell the vindictiveness yet? Obama reeks of it.

“"*" Always Thinking "*"”

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Since: Nov 12

Greensburg, IN

#2 Oct 6, 2013
Uh Clem wrote:

Huh. Smell the vindictiveness yet? Obama reeks of it.
Clem that was a very informative article and as for Barry that smell was strong before he was elected for his second term.

What's your take on this?

The Republican-led House passed a bill Saturday to give thousands of furloughed federal workers back pay when the government reopens, but Democrats promptly characterized it as a signal the GOP doesn’t want the partial shutdown to end.

“Now we're saying to federal employees: We're going to pay you when this is all over with,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, said minutes after the 407-to-0 House vote.“But right now, you just stay home … watch TV, play chess, whatever you’re going to do, because we won't let you work.”

As the fifth day of the federal government shutdown began, members of the House came together in a moment of rare bipartisanship to pass a bill, by a vote of 407 to 0, approving back pay for furloughed government workers.
Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid supports the measure, but said Saturday that if furloughed workers are guaranteed back pay, there’s no reason to keep them out of work.
“It’s really cruel to tell workers they’ll receive back pay once the government opens and then refuse to open the government,” Reid said on the Senate floor, suggesting that House Republicans have authorized a “paid vacation” for furloughed workers.

=*=So why not pass a bill that puts all the government back to work?
Does Harry have a twisted mind or is it 'me'?
Did anyone tell them they must stay home?
I'll bet 'i' can beat Harry playing chess!

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