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#2527 Feb 1, 2013
REDNECK HIPPIE wrote:
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Ever watched American guns, or Suns of guns. They have a small operation and can turn out some fine weapons. There are plenty of people with the expertise to manufacture firearms and lots of territory in the United States to do it in.
Just like American Chopper - they may build 2 or 3 bikes every month, but that isn't going to make a huge difference in the motorcycle industry when Harley's shipping 1,000's each day.

No doubt there may be a few scant machine shops scattered in around the US, but to believe that any discernable amount of illegal firearms come from private machine shops is a stretch. Now I'll believe that there are "bunches" more that originate from illegal transactions under the counter at gun shows or from dealers on the side. That, I would guess, the NRA doesn't buy into or hasn't.

What would be your guess at the total amount of illegal firearms right now on the street?

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#2528 Feb 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>Racist.
Race card played when nothing involving race was posted.
It's definitely getting old.

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#2529 Feb 1, 2013
The Last True Liberal wrote:
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Using victims of shootings to achieve a political goal by the socialists in the Brady Campaign and their gullible members is nothing new.
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my AR-15 has.
Very true. Their straw men are always easy to knock down.

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#2531 Feb 1, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Race card played when nothing involving race was posted.
It's definitely getting old.
It wasn't directed at you.

However, if the shoe fits...

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#2532 Feb 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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No doubt there may be a few scant machine shops scattered in around the US, but to believe that any discernable amount of illegal firearms come from private machine shops is a stretch. Now I'll believe that there are "bunches" more that originate from illegal transactions under the counter at gun shows or from dealers on the side. That, I would guess, the NRA doesn't buy into or hasn't.
What would be your guess at the total amount of illegal firearms right now on the street?
Ok, now, you admit that there might be a few machine shops making illegal firearms, instead of your earlier statement
Any criminal enterprise, such as a drug cartel, etc. can set up a machine shop to manufacture guns. It is not that difficult.

(Maybe in South America, but in the United States?

That's X-files territory. Crap, in Virginia it's hard enough to hide an illegal still let alone hide a machine shop in a metropolitan area. I've been in manufacturing for a long time - I know what goes into setting up a machine shop - to supply that many guns would require a pretty large operation. Besides, a lathe, Bridgeport mill and a barrel hone isn't going to make a really accurate firearm, IMO)

I didn't imply that they illegal gun trade came strictly from there, but it is a pretty safe bet that the cartels and other criminal enterprises have shops set up in multiple locations, to manufacture and/or modify firearms.

As to the number of illegal firearms in the U. S., I would not hazard a guess, but I would imagine it is at least as many as are legally owned and probably much more.

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#2533 Feb 1, 2013
The Last True Liberal wrote:
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Using victims of shootings to achieve a political goal by the socialists in the Brady Campaign and their gullible members is nothing new.
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my AR-15 has.

so why do you have an ar-15 to look at ???

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#2534 Feb 1, 2013
REDNECK HIPPIE wrote:
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Ok, now, you admit that there might be a few machine shops making illegal firearms, instead of your earlier statement
Any criminal enterprise, such as a drug cartel, etc. can set up a machine shop to manufacture guns. It is not that difficult.
(Maybe in South America, but in the United States?
That's X-files territory. Crap, in Virginia it's hard enough to hide an illegal still let alone hide a machine shop in a metropolitan area. I've been in manufacturing for a long time - I know what goes into setting up a machine shop - to supply that many guns would require a pretty large operation. Besides, a lathe, Bridgeport mill and a barrel hone isn't going to make a really accurate firearm, IMO)
I didn't imply that they illegal gun trade came strictly from there, but it is a pretty safe bet that the cartels and other criminal enterprises have shops set up in multiple locations, to manufacture and/or modify firearms.
As to the number of illegal firearms in the U. S., I would not hazard a guess, but I would imagine it is at least as many as are legally owned and probably much more.
I wouldn't be so eager bet on something that is not a sure thing. Without any "real" legislation out there, how can we be sure that the any illegal weapons on American streets come from illegal machine shops?

And the shortest path to the most dangerous city in the world is our border with Mexico. A scant 2 miles is all that separates a quiet Texas town and Juarez, Mexico. Without any real kind of enforcement, where do you think those weapons originate from?

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#2535 Feb 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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I wouldn't be so eager bet on something that is not a sure thing. Without any "real" legislation out there, how can we be sure that the any illegal weapons on American streets come from illegal machine shops?
And the shortest path to the most dangerous city in the world is our border with Mexico. A scant 2 miles is all that separates a quiet Texas town and Juarez, Mexico. Without any real kind of enforcement, where do you think those weapons originate from?
How can we be sure that they are not being manufactured. That has been one of my premises from the beginning. If by some miraculous waving of a magic wand, we were able to eliminate every firearm and all ammunition from the entire planet, we still would not be able to put the genie back in the bottle. We cannot unlearn how to manufacture firearms an ammunition. Some one somewhere would immediately begin manufacturing firearms and my guess would be that the person doing so would be a predator.
Many of ours originate from them IMO and many of theirs originate from us, even our own government got into the act and fed them weapons illegally.

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#2536 Feb 1, 2013
REDNECK HIPPIE wrote:
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Ok, now, you admit that there might be a few machine shops making illegal firearms, instead of your earlier statement
Any criminal enterprise, such as a drug cartel, etc. can set up a machine shop to manufacture guns. It is not that difficult.
(Maybe in South America, but in the United States?
That's X-files territory. Crap, in Virginia it's hard enough to hide an illegal still let alone hide a machine shop in a metropolitan area. I've been in manufacturing for a long time - I know what goes into setting up a machine shop - to supply that many guns would require a pretty large operation. Besides, a lathe, Bridgeport mill and a barrel hone isn't going to make a really accurate firearm, IMO)
I didn't imply that they illegal gun trade came strictly from there, but it is a pretty safe bet that the cartels and other criminal enterprises have shops set up in multiple locations, to manufacture and/or modify firearms.
As to the number of illegal firearms in the U. S., I would not hazard a guess, but I would imagine it is at least as many as are legally owned and probably much more.
Sorry, that last post was all over the place...my mind is elsewhere right now.

Let's revisit this on Tuesday - have a good weekend.

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#2537 Feb 1, 2013
tallyho wrote:
The Last True Liberal wrote:
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Using victims of shootings to achieve a political goal by the socialists in the Brady Campaign and their gullible members is nothing new.
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my AR-15 has.
so why do you have an ar-15 to look at ???
Because they can, because it's legal and because smart people plan ahead.

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#2538 Feb 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>It wasn't directed at you.

However, if the shoe fits...
Neither was the comment I replied to Ferrerman that you replied to about taxing the hell out of guns and ammo. Then you get diarrhea of the mouth, trying to put words in mine.

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#2539 Feb 1, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Because they can, because it's legal and because smart people plan ahead.
not wise to threaten the us

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#2540 Feb 1, 2013
HA,HA, HA, HA, WHAT A STUPID TOPIC.
BECAUSE THEY DO.

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#2541 Feb 1, 2013
Why in the world would you expect someone who was attacking me to fight fair? That's why people carry.

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#2542 Feb 1, 2013
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh yes Texas...

good thing he was exercising his 2nd..

(CNN)-- The Texas prosecutor shot to death in broad daylight outside a courthouse had feared for his life and carried a gun to work, according to a Dallas attorney describing herself as his friend.

Colleen A. Dunbar told CNN that she spoke with Kaufman County Assistant District Attorney Mark Hasse on January 24, and he told her he began carrying a gun in and out of the county courthouse on a daily basis.

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#2543 Feb 1, 2013
tallyho wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh yes Texas...
good thing he was exercising his 2nd..
(CNN)-- The Texas prosecutor shot to death in broad daylight outside a courthouse had feared for his life and carried a gun to work, according to a Dallas attorney describing herself as his friend.
Colleen A. Dunbar told CNN that she spoke with Kaufman County Assistant District Attorney Mark Hasse on January 24, and he told her he began carrying a gun in and out of the county courthouse on a daily basis.
Isn't it illegal to carry a gun into a government building?

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#2544 Feb 1, 2013
Copperhead Roan wrote:
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Isn't it illegal to carry a gun into a government building?
state building , I do believe TEXAS allows, so they won't get shot ... bad joke , Texas allows even into churches and schools
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#2545 Feb 1, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Sorry, that last post was all over the place...my mind is elsewhere right now.
Let's revisit this on Tuesday - have a good weekend.
Run Shitbird Run...you always seem to disappear on the weekends...

BTW does your employer know you spend every waking moment of the work week on Topix?
Texas

Frisco, TX

#2546 Feb 1, 2013
tallyho wrote:
<quoted text>state building , I do believe TEXAS allows, so they won't get shot ... bad joke , Texas allows even into churches and schools
A concealed handgun cannot be carried while the person is intoxicated.
At an amusement park if a proper TPC §30.06 warning is given.
In a place of religious worship if a proper TPC §30.06 warning is given.
In a hospital or nursing home if a proper TPC §30.06 warning is given.
At any correctional facility or within 1000 feet of a correctional facility designated as a place of execution on a day of execution if proper notice is posted.
In any court or offices used by a court unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization from the court.
At any polling place on Election Day.
At any meeting of any governmental body if proper notice is posted pursuant to Texas Penal Code §30.06.
At any high school, collegiate, professional sporting event or interscholastic event, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used in the event.
At any racetrack.
Inside any building or passenger transportation vehicle of a public or private school or educational institution.
In the premises of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which derives 51% or more of its income from the sale of alcoholic beverages and has a conspicuous warning prohibiting firearms, if posted.
Inside the secured area of any airport, however a person may carry any legal firearm into the terminal that is encased for shipment purposes and checked as baggage to be lawfully transported on an aircraft pursuant to airline and TSA regulations.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#2547 Feb 1, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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It's a damn good thing being a stubborn idiot isn't illegal..... it kinda makes my point that you liberal progressives miss that.
Accusing me of "being a stubborn idiot" then yourself using a term like "liberal progressive" to describe me is an interesting choice. You're bonkers. Certifiably bonkers.
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Keep ignoring the constitution. Maybe it will just go away.
Keep ignoring the plight of your masses of illiterate, uneducated, unemployed, mentally under-nourished countrymen. Maybe they'll give up crime and the gun and just wither away to die without a fight.

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