Federal report: Warming is disrupting...

Federal report: Warming is disrupting America with weird weather, rising pollen, more costs

There are 1084 comments on the Cape Breton Post story from May 6, 2014, titled Federal report: Warming is disrupting America with weird weather, rising pollen, more costs. In it, Cape Breton Post reports that:

Global warming is rapidly turning America into a stormy and dangerous place, with rising seas and disasters costing citizens from flood-stricken Florida to the wildfire-ravaged West, according to a new U.S. federal scientific report.

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litesong

Everett, WA

#381 May 12, 2014
[QUOTE who="william shatner's poop plop"] now call it climate change?????[/QUOTE]

re-pubic-lick-un advisor Frank Luntz told candidates to use the term "climate change" to make themselves more electable....... didn't work.
Christsharia Law

Philadelphia, PA

#382 May 12, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
<quoted text>
It is natural.
It also makes no sense to continue to hamstring American commerce with dopey liberal laws.
It's too fast to be unrelated to human activity, Jethro. By a factor of about a hundred.

Also, you tipped your hand by again moving from your shaky idea of a discussion of the merits to what is really bothering - economic ideology, not any dispute over science.

“BET DAP”

Level 4

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#383 May 13, 2014
Christsharia Law wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey cretin, there's no content in your post or in your mind.
sure there is,'genius'! you just fail to understand the message.

try again.
Mechanic

Marthaville, LA

#384 May 13, 2014
Christsharia Law wrote:
<quoted text>
The effects of climate change are not consistent over the globe. The warming is more concentrated in some areas. And some of the effects are not drought - some are unusual seasonal or geographic storms of varying kinds. The temperature differential between ocean and air can lead to more extreme weather.
So it's climate change to be accurate. The overall trend is warming, of course.
Everyone knows this. And the average global temperature has been increasing over the past two decades. There was a slowdown in the increase for awhile.
Lastly, you confuse next week's weather with climate..
Hey "Sharia", are you a "Community Organizer"?
Because this all sounds very familiar!!!

“If it ain't broke don't fix it”

Level 9

Since: Jul 09

Arcadia, LA.

#385 May 13, 2014
justaguess wrote:
PA really needs a library..ya know the place they keep books that have facts in them..
But enough about the gray box know it nothing..
Anybody wants to know about the revised global warming which has been revised to climate change revised to climate disruption..it will continue with the ol' trickle down in metaphors as it goes...but that isn't the interesting part...the carbon credit exchange is where the real action is...that is where the truth is.
go look for yourselves..it's as if the dollar has been taken off the gold standard X100
And the idot from PA and his 2 numberskull tag alongs (exlcuding the graybox from KY, of course) claim the globull warming hoax has nothing to do with Al Gore. He's been making money off the carbon credit scam for years.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/11...

“"*" Always Thinking "*"”

Level 8

Since: Nov 12

Hoosierville

#386 May 13, 2014
(excluding the graybox from KY, of course)
Owensboro seems somewhat to be copying DILF.
Did you notice?

Where is Patch anyway?
litesong

Everett, WA

#387 May 13, 2014
[QUOTE who="william shatner's poop plop"]In 1973 the Times headline was we are on the brink of a coming ice age :)[/QUOTE]

In the '70's, seven papers were written on global cooling. However, 44 science papers were published in Science Journals about global warming.
litesong

Everett, WA

#388 May 13, 2014
[QUOTE who="william shatner's poop plop"].....TV weather man who said that global warming would cause more tornadoes. If this were true that heat caused tornadoes the August would be the most active tornado month.[/QUOTE]

Presently, fewer days have tornadoes, indicating that the excess AGW energy & warmth in the atmosphere, may have more difficulties organizing into tornado systems. However, days with 30+ tornadoes are more common, indicating that once organized, excess AGW energy in the atmosphere readily creates tornadoes.

“BET DAP”

Level 4

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#389 May 13, 2014
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Presently, fewer days have tornadoes, indicating that the excess AGW energy & warmth in the atmosphere, may have more difficulties organizing into tornado systems. However, days with 30+ tornadoes are more common, indicating that once organized, excess AGW energy in the atmosphere readily creates tornadoes.
B.S.!!
provide a link!

1. population growth has resulted in more tornadoes being reported.
2. advances in radar. over 100 doppler systems have been deployed since the mid 1990's.
3. tornado damage surveys have grown more sophisticated to where multiple tornadoes are commonly classed along a path....where in the past only one tornado would be attributed to a damage area.

or.....do you have any scientific evidence that proves your claim, son?
SpaceBlues

Desoto, TX

#390 May 13, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>to another poster:

B.S.!!
provide a link!
1. population growth has resulted in more tornadoes being reported.
2. advances in radar. over 100 doppler systems have been deployed since the mid 1990's.
3. tornado damage surveys have grown more sophisticated to where multiple tornadoes are commonly classed along a path....where in the past only one tornado would be attributed to a damage area.
or.....do you have any scientific evidence that proves your claim, son?
Warming powers winds

The team reconstructed Antarctic temperatures over the past 1000 years, using an ice core from James Ross Island near the Antarctic Peninsula. The temperatures correlated with how strong and tight the winds are, so they could construct a record of wind strength.

They found that the current strength of the winds is unprecedented over the past millennium. But the surge in strength started in the 1940s, decades before the ozone hole.

So Abram's team simulated the last millennium using eight climate models, driven by actual greenhouse gas levels previously reconstructed from ice cores. All the models predicted that the winds would pick up by the 1940s, suggesting greenhouse gases were playing a role. That may be because the northern hemisphere is warming faster than the south – because it has more continents – creating a strong temperature gradient that boosts the winds.

Such historical data is vital, says Wenju Cai from the CSIRO, Australia's national research agency, in Melbourne. In as-yet-unpublished work, he estimates that ozone depletion has caused two-thirds of the impact on the Antarctic winds, with greenhouse gases responsible for the rest.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25547-a...

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#391 May 13, 2014
Christsharia Law wrote:
<quoted text>
It's too fast to be unrelated to human activity, Jethro. By a factor of about a hundred.
Also, you tipped your hand by again moving from your shaky idea of a discussion of the merits to what is really bothering - economic ideology, not any dispute over science.
It could be related to the sun or the moon's proximity.

Right now, the moon is farther away in it's orbit than usual. The moon protects earth like a shield.

dopey liberals want to screw up the American economy more than they already to get more power.

We should drill for more oil, and become energy independent.

WARNING: EPA regs will devastate economy...
Survey Sez

Owensboro, KY

#392 May 13, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
<quoted text>
dopey liberals want to screw up the American economy more than they already to get more power.
We should drill for more oil, and become energy independent.
WARNING: EPA regs will devastate economy...
I support Democrats 90% of the time, but I agree we should get all the oil and gas we can here in the US. Or at least Canada. We're not going to stop burning oil coal and natural gas any time soon
Survey Sez

Owensboro, KY

#393 May 13, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
<quoted text>
We should drill for more oil, and become energy independent.
WARNING: EPA regs will devastate economy...
I think we should be able to get the oil gas coal without poisoning the water air and soil, Might me more expensive.

“BET DAP”

Level 4

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#394 May 13, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Warming powers winds
The team reconstructed Antarctic temperatures over the past 1000 years, using an ice core from James Ross Island near the Antarctic Peninsula. The temperatures correlated with how strong and tight the winds are, so they could construct a record of wind strength.
They found that the current strength of the winds is unprecedented over the past millennium. But the surge in strength started in the 1940s, decades before the ozone hole.
So Abram's team simulated the last millennium using eight climate models, driven by actual greenhouse gas levels previously reconstructed from ice cores. All the models predicted that the winds would pick up by the 1940s, suggesting greenhouse gases were playing a role. That may be because the northern hemisphere is warming faster than the south – because it has more continents – creating a strong temperature gradient that boosts the winds.
Such historical data is vital, says Wenju Cai from the CSIRO, Australia's national research agency, in Melbourne. In as-yet-unpublished work, he estimates that ozone depletion has caused two-thirds of the impact on the Antarctic winds, with greenhouse gases responsible for the rest.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25547-a...
you people sure place a lot of faith in models (which btw are notoriously wrong) that go against real observations.

you people seem to cling to the worst possible outcomes, too, for some reason. why is that?

read the latest....
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/se...
FundieMentally ill

Philadelphia, PA

#395 May 13, 2014
dragoon70056 wrote:
<quoted text>
claim the globull warming hoax has nothing to do with Al Gore
You people can't be honest about even the simplest thing.

No one claimed Al Gore didn't sound the alarm. The claim was that climate change is not Al Gore, that is, reducible to Al Gore, as your inane rhetoric would like to have it.

No, it's about every qualified scientist on the globe. The scientific consensus on this question is just about unprecedented. You have completely ignorant, stu pid, or promoting an ideology of "freedom" over scientific facts not to recognize this.

And the repeated attempts to reduce climate change just to a peccadillo of Al Gore reveals the extreme, purposeful intellectual dishonesty.

“BET DAP”

Level 4

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#396 May 13, 2014
Survey Sez wrote:
<quoted text>
I think we should be able to get the oil gas coal without poisoning the water air and soil, Might me more expensive.
forget the hype, son.

learn the facts.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/05/1...
FundieMentally ill

Philadelphia, PA

#397 May 13, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
<quoted text>
It could be related to the sun or the moon's proximity.
Right now, the moon is farther away in it's orbit than usual.
Where'd you make this up from, Cletus?

Other planets have moons, too. Similar effects are not noted on other planets. It's not solar. It's not lunar. Fluctuations they cause do not have effects over such short periods of time as a century. If there were cataclysmic effects in that short a period of time they would be measurable.

No scientist is at all confused about the mechanism of greenhouse gases trapping heat. None. There are some scientists - like borderline senile F. Dyson until recently - who quibble with the projections, but none questions the basic mechanisms at work here.

Only tee baggrz and those who think the earth is under 10000 years old question the known basics. Because those people are completely anti rational in whatever context you can name.
Qualified Scientist

Virginia Beach, VA

#398 May 13, 2014
FundieMentally ill wrote:
<quoted text>
You people can't be honest about even the simplest thing.
No one claimed Al Gore didn't sound the alarm. The claim was that climate change is not Al Gore, that is, reducible to Al Gore, as your inane rhetoric would like to have it.
No, it's about every qualified scientist on the globe. The scientific consensus on this question is just about unprecedented. You have completely ignorant, stu pid, or promoting an ideology of "freedom" over scientific facts not to recognize this.
And the repeated attempts to reduce climate change just to a peccadillo of Al Gore reveals the extreme, purposeful intellectual dishonesty.
After you're done cleaning my goo out of your hair, you may kneel down and worship me some more.
Qualified Scientist

Portsmouth, VA

#399 May 13, 2014
Correction; you WILL kneel down and worship me some more.
litesong

Everett, WA

#400 May 13, 2014
itesong wrote:
Presently, fewer days have tornadoes, indicating that the excess AGW energy & warmth in the atmosphere, may have more difficulties organizing into tornado systems. However, days with 30+ tornadoes are more common, indicating that once organized, excess AGW energy in the atmosphere readily creates tornadoes.
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"ratdownthemiddledownwron ggully" gushed:
B.S.!!
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litesong wrote:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/0...

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