Three Americans Killed in Kabul

Three Americans Killed in Kabul

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#1 Apr 24, 2014
This is such a shame and there is suppose to be a new Al Qaida making threats towards the US!
Earthling

Boise, ID

#2 Apr 24, 2014
This must be your first visit to our planet. Hang around awhile, it gets worse.
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#3 Apr 24, 2014
Earthling wrote:
This must be your first visit to our planet. Hang around awhile, it gets worse.
No, No, No....I was born and raised in the USA and regardless of what terrorists do, it's still a shame to me!

Signed, US Citizen!
Earthling

Boise, ID

#4 Apr 24, 2014
If you think the "terrorists" are bad, wait till you get a load of the political system around here.
You've got the Left, right, centrists, tea bag, libertarians, constitutionalist, greens, communists, socialists, nationalists and worst of all, the willfully ignorant citizens. Around here, they make the "terrorists" look like a bunch of sleepy kindergarteners.
The only difference between "terrorists" and our "elected officials", is the name. Getting killed for any ideology is a shame, but that's the price you must be willing to pay in order to play. And make no mistake, this is a game. And if you're not the king, prepare to be sacrificed at his whim.
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#5 Apr 24, 2014
Earthling wrote:
If you think the "terrorists" are bad, wait till you get a load of the political system around here.
You've got the Left, right, centrists, tea bag, libertarians, constitutionalist, greens, communists, socialists, nationalists and worst of all, the willfully ignorant citizens. Around here, they make the "terrorists" look like a bunch of sleepy kindergarteners.
The only difference between "terrorists" and our "elected officials", is the name. Getting killed for any ideology is a shame, but that's the price you must be willing to pay in order to play. And make no mistake, this is a game. And if you're not the king, prepare to be sacrificed at his whim.
I am aware of what goes on in the world! Did you not see where I said, I am a US citizen. born and raised???
Earthling

Kansas City, MO

#6 Apr 25, 2014
Spirit67_ wrote:
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I am aware of what goes on in the world! Did you not see where I said, I am a US citizen. born and raised???
WGAS where you were born and raised? I was born here also. Doesn't mean a daymn bit where we were born. The point is, just because three "Americans" were killed, it doesn't make it any worse than if three Chinese, three Russians, three British, etc etc etc were killed. Life and death are a part of the game. Don't like it? Change the rules to forbid killing. And don't try bringing up the "There are laws against killing" bit. Those laws are for you and I.(The game pieces) They're not for the players. They have their own set of rules about that. The only thing that you and I can do is, stay out of the players way. Get in their path and you'll become the "fourth". It's as easy as that. Let them play their games, and you'll get thru life unscathed.
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#7 Apr 25, 2014
Earthling wrote:
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WGAS where you were born and raised? I was born here also. Doesn't mean a daymn bit where we were born. The point is, just because three "Americans" were killed, it doesn't make it any worse than if three Chinese, three Russians, three British, etc etc etc were killed. Life and death are a part of the game. Don't like it? Change the rules to forbid killing. And don't try bringing up the "There are laws against killing" bit. Those laws are for you and I.(The game pieces) They're not for the players. They have their own set of rules about that. The only thing that you and I can do is, stay out of the players way. Get in their path and you'll become the "fourth". It's as easy as that. Let them play their games, and you'll get thru life unscathed.
OMGosh, please put me out of my misery! All I was doing was looking at the news and saw what they were talking about and I thought it was a shame!
Earthling

Kansas City, MO

#8 Apr 25, 2014
Spirit67_ wrote:
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OMGosh, please put me out of my misery! All I was doing was looking at the news and saw what they were talking about and I thought it was a shame!
Why is it a "shame"? How are their deaths any different than you stepping on a bug? The bug was just trying to live out its life and you decided to kill it. In the insect world, you'd be the terrorist.
But anyway, I wonder if it would be a "shame" if it had been anyone other than "Americans"? I bet it would have been perfectly acceptable if they had been North Korean. Or Chinese, Iranian, Pakistanis, you know, one of those evil foreigners that "Americans" just love to hate.
You want to know what the "shame" really is? The shame is that ""humans" have forgotten that they're human. Why wasn't it a shame that 17 children were killed on their way to school? Could it be that it's because they were Iraqi and therefor don't warrant it being considered a "shame" that they died? But three Americans, now that's a different story.
I'd bet they all bled the same color when they were killed.
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#9 Apr 25, 2014
Earthling wrote:
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Why is it a "shame"? How are their deaths any different than you stepping on a bug? The bug was just trying to live out its life and you decided to kill it. In the insect world, you'd be the terrorist.
But anyway, I wonder if it would be a "shame" if it had been anyone other than "Americans"? I bet it would have been perfectly acceptable if they had been North Korean. Or Chinese, Iranian, Pakistanis, you know, one of those evil foreigners that "Americans" just love to hate.
You want to know what the "shame" really is? The shame is that ""humans" have forgotten that they're human. Why wasn't it a shame that 17 children were killed on their way to school? Could it be that it's because they were Iraqi and therefor don't warrant it being considered a "shame" that they died? But three Americans, now that's a different story.
I'd bet they all bled the same color when they were killed.
Say what now??? Yes, but I just thought it was a shame that more Americans are killed in other Countries is all!
Earthling

Chicago, IL

#10 Apr 25, 2014
Spirit67_ wrote:
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Say what now??? Yes, but I just thought it was a shame that more Americans are killed in other Countries is all!
Would it have been "ok" if they had been killed right here in the states? Would it not be a shame then? What does location have to do with anything? Death is death. Where it happens doesn't matter.
Seems to me that the shameful part is in putting importance on the deceased persons country of origin when determining wether or not their death is considered a shame or not.
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#11 Apr 25, 2014
Earthling wrote:
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Would it have been "ok" if they had been killed right here in the states? Would it not be a shame then? What does location have to do with anything? Death is death. Where it happens doesn't matter.
Seems to me that the shameful part is in putting importance on the deceased persons country of origin when determining wether or not their death is considered a shame or not.
What the hell is it with you people??? Get off my back.....
Earthling

Kansas City, MO

#12 Apr 25, 2014
Spirit67_ wrote:
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What the hell is it with you people??? Get off my back.....
Wasn't trying to be on your back. Just trying to get a handle on why it was such a "shame" merely because they were "American". Death doesn't discriminate. It takes anyone. No matter too your nationality. But some seem to think that since it happens to Americans, it is somehow far worse than if it happened to someone from another country.

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Chicago, IL

#13 Apr 26, 2014
an 'and' is a conjunction. That's a device in the English language which joins two concepts into a single sentence.

a. 3 dead is a shame

b. There's a new al Qaida making threats against the US.
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#14 Apr 26, 2014
Earthling wrote:
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Wasn't trying to be on your back. Just trying to get a handle on why it was such a "shame" merely because they were "American". Death doesn't discriminate. It takes anyone. No matter too your nationality. But some seem to think that since it happens to Americans, it is somehow far worse than if it happened to someone from another country.
It's just really a shame, don't you think!
Earthling

Tulsa, OK

#15 Apr 26, 2014
Spirit67_ wrote:
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It's just really a shame, don't you think!
Before you read this entire post, you have to agree to sitting and thinking about it logically for a minute or two. If so, continue on.

I don't see their deaths as a "shame". I see them as a possible foreseeable outcome. Much as a parachutist jumps with the knowledge that his/her chute might malfunction, going into a country that is torn by strife and turmoil, the consequence of death is ever present.
On the other hand, if they were taken there against their will, then their deaths would be a tragedy.
The difference being in the way that they were put in harms way.
It sounds cold to some to think of it that way, but human beings put themselves in some stupid predicaments all the time. Thinking of their deaths, when they know that that could be the outcome of their actions, doesn't phase me one bit. I see it more of an "I told you so" moment. It doesn't matter the reason that they decided to undertake the action that got them killed either. If they did it willingly, then they only have themselves to blame. Now, I'm going to find something sturdy to hunker down behind.:)
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#16 Apr 26, 2014
Earthling wrote:
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Before you read this entire post, you have to agree to sitting and thinking about it logically for a minute or two. If so, continue on.
I don't see their deaths as a "shame". I see them as a possible foreseeable outcome. Much as a parachutist jumps with the knowledge that his/her chute might malfunction, going into a country that is torn by strife and turmoil, the consequence of death is ever present.
On the other hand, if they were taken there against their will, then their deaths would be a tragedy.
The difference being in the way that they were put in harms way.
It sounds cold to some to think of it that way, but human beings put themselves in some stupid predicaments all the time. Thinking of their deaths, when they know that that could be the outcome of their actions, doesn't phase me one bit. I see it more of an "I told you so" moment. It doesn't matter the reason that they decided to undertake the action that got them killed either. If they did it willingly, then they only have themselves to blame. Now, I'm going to find something sturdy to hunker down behind.:)
It's not the Americans fault who go over to other Countries to help out! This was a medical person helping a clinic in Kabul when he got killed.....how is that his fault! People don't like Americans and we have the biggest 'target' on our backs, no matter where we go! Look at North Korea, what in sam's hill have we done to them???
Earthling

Tulsa, OK

#17 Apr 26, 2014
By putting theirselves in the situation, they accepted the fact that they might be killed. Do I feel that it was a "shame"? No. I do however feel it is a "shame" that others feel the need to kill someone just trying to help. But as far as feeling "shame" that someone died doing something that could kill them, no.
As for North Korea, the better question would be, "What 'haven't' we done to them"? The U.S. has a tendency to stick its nose in where it doesn't belong. If you take a good long look at the countries that we supposedly "helped", you'll notice that the vast majority of them are worse off than they were.
The population of this floating rock we call home, is getting tired of our sh*t. It's too the point that even our closest allies are telling us to back off. But will we listen? Hell no. We seem to think we're more important than everyone else and that gets us into these messes that we're in at the moment.
I guess it's just life on this rock. There can never be peace here. It's not in us to be peaceful. We long for conflict. It's called human nature. There's no changing. It's a part of us. It's been passed on from the dawn of man through our genetic makeup. I wish I could see it some other way, but I can't. I've watched this whole thing for too many years now. For good to triumph over evil, there must first be "good". As I see it now, good doesn't exist, so we do what we can with what's left.
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#18 Apr 26, 2014
Earthling wrote:
By putting theirselves in the situation, they accepted the fact that they might be killed. Do I feel that it was a "shame"? No. I do however feel it is a "shame" that others feel the need to kill someone just trying to help. But as far as feeling "shame" that someone died doing something that could kill them, no.
As for North Korea, the better question would be, "What 'haven't' we done to them"? The U.S. has a tendency to stick its nose in where it doesn't belong. If you take a good long look at the countries that we supposedly "helped", you'll notice that the vast majority of them are worse off than they were.
The population of this floating rock we call home, is getting tired of our sh*t. It's too the point that even our closest allies are telling us to back off. But will we listen? Hell no. We seem to think we're more important than everyone else and that gets us into these messes that we're in at the moment.
I guess it's just life on this rock. There can never be peace here. It's not in us to be peaceful. We long for conflict. It's called human nature. There's no changing. It's a part of us. It's been passed on from the dawn of man through our genetic makeup. I wish I could see it some other way, but I can't. I've watched this whole thing for too many years now. For good to triumph over evil, there must first be "good". As I see it now, good doesn't exist, so we do what we can with what's left.
I'm not inferring the word 'shame' as shame on them! Could you pour me a glass of wine, thank you!
Earthling

Tulsa, OK

#19 Apr 26, 2014
Spirit67_ wrote:
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I'm not inferring the word 'shame' as shame on them! Could you pour me a glass of wine, thank you!
I understood your meaning of "shame" completely. I just don't see it that way is all. If you decided to jump off a building, why would I think it was a "shame" that you died? You knew (or should have) what the outcome of such an action could cause. So, why should I think that it's a shame that Americans died in a place that is known for being hostile towards Americans?

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