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Should Americans be limited to two children per family?

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arctic wrote:
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For yrs that is exactly what the medical
and scientific communities said.
Now they say research shows absolutely no
difference b/t the two...
So who really knows.
I think the increase in type 2 diabetes
has a lot to do w/our overeating in this
country. Also not eating balanced meals
with lots of fruits, veggies, and grains
One word- Lobbyists. Corn is big business now. The biggest risk to our health now is all of the GMO sh!t. That and doctors putting people on prescription drugs for everything under the sun, many of which are unsafe. Just about every single diabetes medication has been recalled or pulled from shelves.

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Diabetes is a health condition causing high sugar content in the bloodstream because the pancreas
genetic .....
There is an epidemic of type 2 diabetes. It is being fueled by refined carbohydrates and sugar in the form of high fructose corn syrup. As to genetics, blacks, Hispanics, American Indians and Asian-Americans are more likely to develop type 2 diabetes than whites are.

"Corn syrup largely consists of the monosaccharide fructose, in contrast with sucrose—which is a disaccharide of fructose and glucose. Fructose, unlike sucrose, has been directly linked to insulin resistance in small human and animal studies and has been implicated in every metabolic abnormality associated with the metabolic syndrome (66-69). Corn syrup is now endemic in the US food supply, which places an unprecedented biochemical evolutionary pressure for processing fructose."

"Our analysis confirmed that during the past century, especially the past 20 y, the American diet has undergone a dramatic change. Furthermore, our data indicate that, during the same period, type 2 diabetes has reached epidemic proportions, exerting a substantial health burden on society. These population-level data are consistent with findings from metabolic and prospective studies of individual persons, which suggest that the intake of refined carbohydrates increases the risk of obesity, glucose intolerance, dyslipidemia, and type 2 diabetes. The risk of type 2 diabetes may be reduced by replacing refined carbohydrates with low-GI carbohydrate sources and whole-grain, high-fiber products."

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/79/5/774.lo...

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arctic wrote:
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For yrs that is exactly what the medical
and scientific communities said.
Now they say research shows absolutely no
difference b/t the two...
So who really knows.
I think the increase in type 2 diabetes
has a lot to do w/our overeating in this
country. Also not eating balanced meals
with lots of fruits, veggies, and grains
Study finds link between high fructose corn syrup, Type 2 diabetes
November 27, 2012
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/27/news/...

High Fructose Corn Syrup Fuelling Type 2 Diabetes Epidemic
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/2534...

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that is why we have DOC, instead of midwifes ,
opiod isn't a medical condition ... it was induced
LOL You haven't given birth lately, have you?

Welcome to the American College of Nurse-Midwives
http://www.midwife.org/

What do opiods have to do with the subject at hand?

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arctic wrote:
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Women had been having babies, all on
their own, for millions of yrs b/f drs
got involved in it.
Sure, sometimes it can be dangerous.
So can having a bowel movement but ppl don't
rush to the dr each time they feel the urge
to sh1t. Being found dead on the toilet is
more common than you'd think.
Evidently that's how Elvis left the building.

Democrats and their fancy schmancy doctors are what's killing America. Poor people die. Laws can't change that- especially communist socialist laws like Obummerkkkare. Only money can and, since they don't have that, why bother keeping them alive past their expiration date? What does SS pay- maybe $1200 a month? Who can live on that? This is why we need to give that money to Wall Streeters who know what to do with it!
just saying

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Pregnancy is a natural condition.
I've never seen a squirrel rushed into the
ER after her water broke w/nurses yelling "STAT!"
Then I guess you don't mind that the U.S. is 50th in the world for maternal mortality rate..

"With 99% of maternal deaths occurring in developing countries, it is too often assumed that maternal mortality is not a problem in wealthier countries. Yet, statistics released in September of 2010 by the United Nations place the United States 50th in the world for maternal mortality — with maternal mortality ratios higher than almost all European countries, as well as several countries in Asia and the Middle East.1, 2

Even more troubling, the United Nations data show that between 1990 and 2008, while the vast majority of countries reduced their maternal mortality ratios for a global decrease of 34%, MATERNAL MORTALITY NEARLY DOUBLED IN THE UNITED STATES.
http://www.arhp.org/publications-and-resource...

Graph of the day: The United States has a really high infant mortality rate

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...

DOESN'T MATTER IF PREGNANCY IS "NATURAL"...IT'S ALSO DANGEROUS.

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Too bad some can't be returned to the cabbage patch they hatched from ..... just saying.
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Too bad some can't be returned to the cabbage patch they hatched from ..... just saying.
I can think of a few, offhand, I'd suggest for returning.

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Then I guess you don't mind that the U.S. is 50th in the world for maternal mortality rate..
"With 99% of maternal deaths occurring in developing countries, it is too often assumed that maternal mortality is not a problem in wealthier countries. Yet, statistics released in September of 2010 by the United Nations place the United States 50th in the world for maternal mortality — with maternal mortality ratios higher than almost all European countries, as well as several countries in Asia and the Middle East.1, 2
Even more troubling, the United Nations data show that between 1990 and 2008, while the vast majority of countries reduced their maternal mortality ratios for a global decrease of 34%, MATERNAL MORTALITY NEARLY DOUBLED IN THE UNITED STATES.
http://www.arhp.org/publications-and-resource...
Graph of the day: The United States has a really high infant mortality rate
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...
DOESN'T MATTER IF PREGNANCY IS "NATURAL"...IT'S ALSO DANGEROUS.
So.. in countries w/less prenatal care the
mortality rate is lower?
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So.. in countries w/less prenatal care the
mortality rate is lower?
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-...

Nothing to be proud of but not quite the picture your friend is painting, either.

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Nancy Botwin wrote:
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Then I guess you don't mind that the U.S. is 50th in the world for maternal mortality rate.
Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge of infant mortality rates with all the fine folks on Offbeat this morning.

You might want to change your sources.

136th on a list of 183 countries:

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx...

116th out of 135 countries:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_mat_mor...

And 122nd out of 172 countries (the NA's were taken off):

http://www.photius.com/rankings/population/ma...

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*oops, maternal mortality rates.

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EraserX wrote:
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https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-...
Nothing to be proud of but not quite the picture your friend is painting, either.
Shows the positive effect of universal
health care.

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Nancy Botwin wrote:
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There is an epidemic of type 2 diabetes. It is being fueled by refined carbohydrates and sugar in the form of high fructose corn syrup. As to genetics, blacks, Hispanics, American Indians and Asian-Americans are more likely to develop type 2 diabetes than whites are.
"Corn syrup largely consists of the monosaccharide fructose, in contrast with sucrose—which is a disaccharide of fructose and glucose. Fructose, unlike sucrose, has been directly linked to insulin resistance in small human and animal studies and has been implicated in every metabolic abnormality associated with the metabolic syndrome (66-69). Corn syrup is now endemic in the US food supply, which places an unprecedented biochemical evolutionary pressure for processing fructose."
"Our analysis confirmed that during the past century, especially the past 20 y, the American diet has undergone a dramatic change. Furthermore, our data indicate that, during the same period, type 2 diabetes has reached epidemic proportions, exerting a substantial health burden on society. These population-level data are consistent with findings from metabolic and prospective studies of individual persons, which suggest that the intake of refined carbohydrates increases the risk of obesity, glucose intolerance, dyslipidemia, and type 2 diabetes. The risk of type 2 diabetes may be reduced by replacing refined carbohydrates with low-GI carbohydrate sources and whole-grain, high-fiber products."
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/79/5/774.lo...
I know what diabetes is , I have it.... it is a genetic trait not an epidemic

not a transmission ... affecting many persons at the same time, and spreading from person to person in a locality ..... can be held in check by medications

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Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge of infant mortality rates with all the fine folks on Offbeat this morning.
You might want to change your sources.
136th on a list of 183 countries:
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx...
116th out of 135 countries:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_mat_mor...
And 122nd out of 172 countries (the NA's were taken off):
http://www.photius.com/rankings/population/ma...
And thank you for posting different sources using the same CIA stats and out dated information.

Photius...
"NOTE: The information regarding Maternal mortality rate 2012 on this page is re-published from the CIA World Factbook 2012. No claims are made regarding theaccuracy of Maternal mortality rate 2012 information contained here. All suggestions for corrections of any errors about Maternal mortality rate 2012 should be addressed to the CIA."

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Nationmaster...
SOURCE: UNICEF (United Nations Children?s Fund). 2002.

My source...Look at the references/sources
http://www.arhp.org/publications-and-resource...

I wonder where the CIA gets it's information?

"More disturbing still, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention stopped publishing U.S. maternal mortality statistics after 2007."
http://womensenews.org/story/sisterspace/1207...

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Shows the positive effect of universal
health care.
Where's the obscene profit in that, commie?

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tallyho wrote:
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I know what diabetes is , I have it.... it is a genetic trait not an epidemic
not a transmission ... affecting many persons at the same time, and spreading from person to person in a locality ..... can be held in check by medications
I, too, have diabetes, type 2. Type 1 is purely genetic..not type two.

Definition of EPIDEMIC
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: affecting or tending to affect a disproportionately large number of individuals within a population, community, or region at the same time

An epidemic doesn't have to be communicable.

Are you suggesting that the rise in diabetes in the past 20 years is due to purely genetics?

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Nancy Botwin wrote:
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I wonder where the CIA gets it's information?
"More disturbing still, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention stopped publishing U.S. maternal mortality statistics after 2007."
http://womensenews.org/story/sisterspace/1207...
Thanks for giving me a good laugh.

2012 statistics, regardless of the source, is outdated?

It's a government agency - probably the same source of information the CDC used.

Government agencies often shake hands with one another - kinda' like you do with all your sista' sock "friends."

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milwaukee69 wrote:
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Thanks for giving me a good laugh.
2012 statistics, regardless of the source, is outdated?
It's a government agency - probably the same source of information the CDC used.
Government agencies often shake hands with one another - kinda' like you do with all your sista' sock "friends."
Na.. it's you, Tally and Artic that have been entertaining the hell out of me. Thanks so much for encouraging me to post the correct information. For all your name calling and silly, inane posts, you have yet to answer any of my questions or actually refute anything anything I've posted. Right now we are arguing about sources. You have one, the CIA. Where DO they get their information? There are at least 10 sources listed at the bottom of the article I posted to support the stats in that article. Be that as it may...the whole point I was making is that in the "richest" country in the world, where health care costs more than anywhere in the world, has more maternal mortality. That is certainly reflected in either set of stats.

This is outdated...

Nationmaster...
SOURCE: UNICEF (United Nations Children?s Fund). 2002.

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