Should Americans be limited to two ch...

Should Americans be limited to two children per family?

Created by Illustrated Man on May 25, 2012

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Camilla

San Diego, CA

#503 Mar 21, 2013
OMG -- your posts are mean spirited !

Whats up with the cat in a most unnatural pose,
either terrified or in pain - hope its an example of photo shop and not real.

If its real, its very not nice, not nice at all.

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#504 Mar 21, 2013
Hunglo wrote:
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Really, you are going to use the guardian as a source, a publication admittedly more leftist than Ferrerman's blog?!
Have you ever passed out in a dog's dish?

Level 6

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#505 Mar 21, 2013
arctic wrote:
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I got into a serious debate w/a group
of kiwis and aussies about mandatory
sterilization for women who have a drug
addicted baby.
The effects are devastating and lifelong.
It's a crime in itself. Child abuse in utero.
They should be prosecuted. But it rarely
happens and instead of being more careful
9 out of 10 of them have a second (and a
third).
But I was argued down on the premise that
mandatory sterilization would violate their
civil rights.
Tough discussion. INo surprise but I agree with you.
beatlesinthebog

Palmerston North, New Zealand

#506 Mar 21, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
I got into a serious debate w/a group
of kiwis and aussies about mandatory
sterilization for women who have a drug
addicted baby.
The effects are devastating and lifelong.
It's a crime in itself. Child abuse in utero.
They should be prosecuted. But it rarely
happens and instead of being more careful
9 out of 10 of them have a second (and a
third).
But I was argued down on the premise that
mandatory sterilization would violate their
civil rights.
You were probably conversing with the clowns that keep punching out children to help support their lifestyle....at govt payments of around $80 per child per week it soon mounts up. It's not uncommon for some of these shitheads to be seen carting round 5 or 6 droogs,who learn the welfare life and continue it on themselves! It could also suit successive govts in their aim of dumbing down the general population....?

“To contract new debts...”

Level 6

Since: Apr 08

is not the way to pay old ones

#507 Mar 21, 2013
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever passed out in a dog's dish?
Not that I'm admitting too
contraindication s

United States

#508 Mar 21, 2013
Nancy Botwin wrote:
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I'm not complaining .
Then why don't you go over and take up arms with your hamas buddies? And take a couple valium. You need them, as do we, who actually read your propaganda. Sweet dreams, Nan-PIE...
George Soros

United States

#509 Mar 21, 2013
EraserX wrote:
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"You libs" LOLOLOL Too funny.
Don't know what you are talking about. Who, specifically, wants your .45?
I do! What do you think this "Hope & Change" shit's all about, you cad? I want POWER OVER ALL OF YOU!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Co'mon, it's about POWER & MONEY! Or didn't you know?

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#510 Mar 21, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
I got into a serious debate w/a group
of kiwis and aussies about mandatory
sterilization for women who have a drug
addicted baby.
The effects are devastating and lifelong.
It's a crime in itself. Child abuse in utero.
They should be prosecuted. But it rarely
happens and instead of being more careful
9 out of 10 of them have a second (and a
third).
But I was argued down on the premise that
mandatory sterilization would violate their
civil rights.
As a new republican, I can answer this! We repub's believe in small government. It should be exactly small enough to fit in a woman's uterus so's one can conduct business from there. People have a natural right as INDIVIDUALS to do exactly what a small, republican government tells them to do! Democrats believe in HUGE government that lets people do what they want even if they don't have millions of dollars. Who the hell ever said America was free? Well, the first nine months are free, After that, you're on your own.
Jack Lew

United States

#511 Mar 21, 2013
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever passed out in a dog's dish?
Geno's Secret Service code name is DOG DISH???? I was wondering why I called him a different name and he wouldn't come under my desk!!! Thanks for the info!
The Eternal Question

United States

#512 Mar 21, 2013
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>As a new republican, I can answer this! We repub's believe in small government. It should be exactly small enough to fit in a woman's uterus so's one can conduct business from there. People have a natural right as INDIVIDUALS to do exactly what a small, republican government tells them to do! Democrats believe in HUGE government that lets people do what they want even if they don't have millions of dollars. Who the hell ever said America was free? Well, the first nine months are free, After that, you're on your own.
Which came first, your stupidity or your dumbness? Your dumbness or your stupidity? There could be "debates" for ages to come. Move over chicken vs egg!

65007noogard

“Geaux Tigers!”

Level 9

Since: Jun 12

Down on the bayou

#513 Mar 21, 2013
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>As a new republican, I can answer this! We repub's believe in small government. It should be exactly small enough to fit in a woman's uterus so's one can conduct business from there. People have a natural right as INDIVIDUALS to do exactly what a small, republican government tells them to do! Democrats believe in HUGE government that lets people do what they want even if they don't have millions of dollars. Who the hell ever said America was free? Well, the first nine months are free, After that, you're on your own.
What is it with you and shoving things in your uterus in public lately? Did Geno slip you one too many roofies?
Chicago PD Captain

United States

#514 Mar 21, 2013
65007noogard wrote:
<quoted text>
What is it with you and shoving things in your uterus in public lately? Did Geno slip you one too many roofies?
You see the kind of stuff we have to deal with??? I retire tomorrow with 30+ years, and I'm moving to Arizona. F**k this!!!

Level 9

Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#515 Mar 21, 2013
beatlesinthebog wrote:
<quoted text>You were probably conversing with the clowns that keep punching out children to help support their lifestyle....at govt payments of around $80 per child per week it soon mounts up. It's not uncommon for some of these shitheads to be seen carting round 5 or 6 droogs,who learn the welfare life and continue it on themselves! It could also suit successive govts in their aim of dumbing down the general population....?
You would think so ...maybe at the thread
title but after a long period of talking w/
these ppl they turned out to be so open minded,
educated, compassionate ppl that I've ever met.

In the end it didn't change my opinion but I
did come around to seeing their points of view.
They felt that those women were drug abusers due
to a past that was not of their own making and
that is a mitigating circumstance. That they
should get the benefit of the doubt that they
would want to go straight at some point and have
a family.

And while I do feel bad for those women and
wish they didn't have the pain that they have...
I still prefer to speak for the child who has
no choice in any of this.

Level 6

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#516 Mar 21, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
You would think so ...maybe at the thread
title but after a long period of talking w/
these ppl they turned out to be so open minded,
educated, compassionate ppl that I've ever met.
In the end it didn't change my opinion but I
did come around to seeing their points of view.
They felt that those women were drug abusers due
to a past that was not of their own making and
that is a mitigating circumstance. That they
should get the benefit of the doubt that they
would want to go straight at some point and have
a family.
And while I do feel bad for those women and
wish they didn't have the pain that they have...
I still prefer to speak for the child who has
no choice in any of this.
Then harvest some eggs first. If they go straight and prove it, they can be implanted.

“Cat got your tongue?”

Level 7

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#517 Mar 21, 2013
Maverick 808 wrote:
<quoted text>Western Roman Empire died in 476 AD the Eastern Roman Empire died in 1453 AD.
Nero died in 68 AD and Caligula died before Nero.
They had little or no effect on the outcome of Ancient Rome.
<quoted text>
I don't believe I have seen any church official physically barring women from having birth control or going to have an abortion.
There is no denying that the Catholic Church is against abortion and birth control and they are very good at having their lobbyists and supporters fight tooth and nail for their interests in the political arenas around the country.
<quoted text>Typically when a violent change of government occurs the first people to get put out are politicians, generals, teachers, and scientists.
When the leadership of the military gets bounced the esprit de corps fractures and the loyalists (usually the best troops) get tossed along with the leaders leaving the dregs to take over.
Not shaking in his turban? If the arabs are so brave and dedicated to their god, how is it that none of the countries surrounding Isreal has launched an invasion since 1967?
Did Rome fall? Why yes it did...and it was years of one corrupt leader after another and wars that caused Rome to fall. Sound familiar? I gave Nero and Caligula as examples of the corruption that cause the decline of Rome.
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"I don't believe I have seen any church official physically barring women from having birth control or going to have an abortion."

I've seen "Pastor"Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church block entrance to clinics, waving signs in women's faces about how God hate fags and abortion. I've had an old man stick a sign in my face for going to see my Dr. for a medical condition that had nothing to do with reproductive rights. Pharmacists are refusing to fill prescriptions for birth control under church direction. You were saying?
~~~~~
"If the arabs are so brave and dedicated to their god, how is it that none of the countries surrounding Isreal has launched an invasion since 1967?"

Why would the Arabs attack Israel? This isn't about God. It's about the grab of Palestinian land by Israel. Israel has nukes... and is a major arms dealer with the U.S. as an ally. The Palestinians have been fighting back which is hard to do when Israel blockades shipments of the most basic human needs. The Pals throw rocks and Israel throws rockets. No one wants war with Israel...it's Israel that is invading and killing Palestinians claiming the land is theirs. IT'S NOT! Israel was given land under the UN agreement in 1948. But that's not good enough for the Israelis. They think they should have the whole region according to the Torah. That puts them in the position of having to STEAL the land. The U.S. is Israel's ally...why then does Israel hide how many nukes they possess from the U.S.?

Level 9

Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#518 Mar 21, 2013
EraserX wrote:
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Then harvest some eggs first. If they go straight and prove it, they can be implanted.
And in comes X with a perfectly logical conclusion.

Now why didn't I think of that? lol

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#519 Mar 21, 2013
Interesting how republicans want the children born at any or all costs yet, almost at the moment of birth, they couldn't care less about the child from there on out.

“Cat got your tongue?”

Level 7

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#520 Mar 21, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
You would think so ...maybe at the thread
title but after a long period of talking w/
these ppl they turned out to be so open minded,
educated, compassionate ppl that I've ever met.
In the end it didn't change my opinion but I
did come around to seeing their points of view.
They felt that those women were drug abusers due
to a past that was not of their own making and
that is a mitigating circumstance. That they
should get the benefit of the doubt that they
would want to go straight at some point and have
a family.
And while I do feel bad for those women and
wish they didn't have the pain that they have...
I still prefer to speak for the child who has
no choice in any of this.
Pregnancy and drug addiction are both medical issues and should be treated as such. They can be managed if the women aren't afraid to come in. If they are too afraid to seek help because of totalitarian authoritarians, babies and lives will continue to be lost.

“Cat got your tongue?”

Level 7

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#521 Mar 21, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
And in comes X with a perfectly logical conclusion.
Now why didn't I think of that? lol
Do you know how much storing eggs and in vitro fertilisation costs? Who's going to pay for that?

Level 9

Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#522 Mar 21, 2013
Nancy Botwin wrote:
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Pregnancy and drug addiction are both medical issues and should be treated as such. They can be managed if the women aren't afraid to come in. If they are too afraid to seek help because of totalitarian authoritarians, babies and lives will continue to be lost.
They don't come in b/c they don't Want our help.
Never have.
They only go to rehab or counseling when it's court
ordered and even then many just say screw it and go
back to jail.
They come out, hit the streets, and start the whole
thing again.
It takes an average of 4 tries to successfully complete
rehab and not use again. And it's hard as hell.
Most just don't have it (or can't find it)in themselves.

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