Man Sues Church After Botched "Exorcism"

Man Sues Church After Botched "Exorcism"

There are 20 comments on the NBC Chicago story from Mar 11, 2013, titled Man Sues Church After Botched "Exorcism". In it, NBC Chicago reports that:

According to the lawsuit, the defendants, Rev. Joel Arwood, his wife Theresa Arwood and deacon Charles Shields, asked Byrd on Feb.

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#1 Mar 11, 2013
Did he get repossessed?

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#2 Mar 11, 2013
I believe there is a time and a place for this sort of thing, but here, nobody knew what they were doing. Too bad he has lasting injuries from it. But why blame the church if the "Devil" caused it?
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#3 Mar 11, 2013
Spotted Girl wrote:
I believe there is a time and a place for this sort of thing, but here, nobody knew what they were doing. Too bad he has lasting injuries from it. But why blame the church if the "Devil" caused it?
If the devil caused it,,then sue the devil,,,sheshhhhh

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#4 Mar 11, 2013
Parden pard wrote:
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If the devil caused it,,then sue the devil,,,sheshhhhh
Yeah, I agree,

he 'should' try to sue the devil......

just for the hell of it(:

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#5 Mar 11, 2013
Turn the other cheek, dammit!

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#6 Mar 11, 2013
SirPrize wrote:
Turn the other cheek, dammit!
Yes, but he got cold cocked in the mouth.
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#7 Mar 11, 2013
Spotted Girl wrote:
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Yes, but he got cold cocked in the mouth.
That's soound like something I like actually......

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#8 Mar 11, 2013
Spotted Girl wrote:
I believe there is a time and a place for this sort of thing, but here, nobody knew what they were doing. Too bad he has lasting injuries from it. But why blame the church if the "Devil" caused it?
For your sake, I hope you're kidding.

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#9 Mar 11, 2013
To think, there are still such mindless creatures walking among us.

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#11 Mar 11, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>For your sake, I hope you're kidding.
Why? Because I believe in the spirit world? Spirit extraction is sometimes necessary, but folks like this give it a bad name. The preacher didn't know what he was doing. This is not something to play with and must be taken seriously. It takes preparation and precautions. Then the pastor bragging about knocking the "Devil's tooth out," that shows he wasn't of the right spirit to do this. And the man for going to the pastor with this to begin with... Most who think they are possessed are not. Usually, there is a loss of control along with it. So maybe it was the pastor with the spirit...

If you believe in this sort of thing, then you have to believe in all the consequences. So if there are "spirits" out there, then not all are good, and if you don't know what you are doing,

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#12 Mar 11, 2013
"Satisfaction guaranteed or double your demons back"

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#13 Mar 11, 2013
Uh Clem wrote:
"Satisfaction guaranteed or double your demons back"
"Satisfaction guaranteed to make your head spin"...
Getting With The Times

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#14 Mar 12, 2013
Nice to see the Church venturing into the MMA arena......

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#15 Mar 12, 2013
OMG! The photo of the guy looks like Robert Plant on crack. Lots of crack that is.

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#17 Mar 12, 2013
Because the promise was one of being presumptous.
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#18 Mar 12, 2013
I dont feel sorry for the church..they are protected under amendments..etc...and only rake in money..
but lord the paperwork..and signs posted around the church now are gonna be crazy..
Signed release forms, waiving suit, if your head spins,,but only comes back halfway, now your lookin down at your ass..
signs around the church,,
Warning, our coffee wont burn you, but you may lose teeth when exorcised..
honestly,, this is limitless..

Warning, snake may bite.......

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#19 Mar 12, 2013
Spotted Girl wrote:
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Why? Because I believe in the spirit world? Spirit extraction is sometimes necessary, but folks like this give it a bad name. The preacher didn't know what he was doing. This is not something to play with and must be taken seriously. It takes preparation and precautions. Then the pastor bragging about knocking the "Devil's tooth out," that shows he wasn't of the right spirit to do this. And the man for going to the pastor with this to begin with... Most who think they are possessed are not. Usually, there is a loss of control along with it. So maybe it was the pastor with the spirit...
If you believe in this sort of thing, then you have to believe in all the consequences. So if there are "spirits" out there, then not all are good, and if you don't know what you are doing,
There are spirits out there alright. And I think you drink too many of them.

More seriously, even if you believe in spirituality, you cando so without the nonsense of crystal balls, tea leaves, exorcisms, and other cuckoo superstitions.

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#20 Mar 12, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>There are spirits out there alright. And I think you drink too many of them.
More seriously, even if you believe in spirituality, you cando so without the nonsense of crystal balls, tea leaves, exorcisms, and other cuckoo superstitions.
Exorcisms is not nonsense. I believe in literal spirits, and people do that attachments. Exorcism is a ritual to get them out of you. As for the other stuff, you don't need props. The power is in you. The paraphernalia is just to remind you to stay in the frame of mind needed and to focus the energy. There are other names for exorcisms, and intrusive spirits that infect you like a computer virus are in nearly every religious system. The big thing now is Shamanic spirit release therapy. That is the same thing, under a different name, and some of the practitioners are also licensed psychotherapists with doctorate degrees.

If you want, I can point you to two doctors with this type of experience. In one case, there was a misbehaving child. He was very normal and good until age 4, then it was non-stop lying, stealing, violence, etc. Someone sought spirit release therapy, and examined his aura. There were some attachments, and the main one was Earthbound (meaning someone who was once alive). You might not believe this, and that is fine, and even I am skeptical. They spoke with the main attachment. It said it was a person around the time of the Revolutionary war. He said the spirit of the other other person spread lies on him and causes a mob to beat him to death, and that he wanted payback. He attached to the person through several incarnations as revenge and caused him to do bad things to get him punished. Once the healer convinced this spirit to forgive and leave, the child didn't seem like the same child. All antisocial conduct stopped instantly to never return, and he was much more obedient. I've contacted the authors of the book. They don't come across as liars, but I've seen no corroborating evidence either.

There was one situation 3 different people told me about who had all stayed in a particular apartment. One had no occult experience, one was a dabbler, and the other claimed to be a witch and possessed herself. Not the most reliable witnesses, but their stories matched up, and without collusion on their parts. They all reported a girl coming into their apartments. She was polite, sweet, and offered them water, among other things. There was no way she could have gotten in. The fire escape was not by the windows, and they all locked the door. The self-described witch said she talked to her and may have helped her the rest of the way into the afterlife. The story was that she was thrown out of her home in the late 1800's. Times were bad and her parents didn't want her. So she fell into the oldest profession and got murdered on the job. The way religion was back then, that was probably why she became an earthbound spirit. Everyone was probably telling her she would go to Hell, and she probably believed it. So why go into the "light" or whatever if you have Hell to face next?

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#21 Mar 12, 2013
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Exorcisms is not nonsense. I believe in literal spirits, and people do that attachments. Exorcism is a ritual to get them out of you. As for the other stuff, you don't need props. The power is in you. The paraphernalia is just to remind you to stay in the frame of mind needed and to focus the energy. There are other names for exorcisms, and intrusive spirits that infect you like a computer virus are in nearly every religious system. The big thing now is Shamanic spirit release therapy. That is the same thing, under a different name, and some of the practitioners are also licensed psychotherapists with doctorate degrees.
If you want, I can point you to two doctors with this type of experience. In one case, there was a misbehaving child. He was very normal and good until age 4, then it was non-stop lying, stealing, violence, etc. Someone sought spirit release therapy, and examined his aura. There were some attachments, and the main one was Earthbound (meaning someone who was once alive). You might not believe this, and that is fine, and even I am skeptical. They spoke with the main attachment. It said it was a person around the time of the Revolutionary war. He said the spirit of the other other person spread lies on him and causes a mob to beat him to death, and that he wanted payback. He attached to the person through several incarnations as revenge and caused him to do bad things to get him punished. Once the healer convinced this spirit to forgive and leave, the child didn't seem like the same child. All antisocial conduct stopped instantly to never return, and he was much more obedient. I've contacted the authors of the book. They don't come across as liars, but I've seen no corroborating evidence either.
There was one situation 3 different people told me about who had all stayed in a particular apartment. One had no occult experience, one was a dabbler, and the other claimed to be a witch and possessed herself. Not the most reliable witnesses, but their stories matched up, and without collusion on their parts. They all reported a girl coming into their apartments. She was polite, sweet, and offered them water, among other things. There was no way she could have gotten in. The fire escape was not by the windows, and they all locked the door. The self-described witch said she talked to her and may have helped her the rest of the way into the afterlife. The story was that she was thrown out of her home in the late 1800's. Times were bad and her parents didn't want her. So she fell into the oldest profession and got murdered on the job. The way religion was back then, that was probably why she became an earthbound spirit. Everyone was probably telling her she would go to Hell, and she probably believed it. So why go into the "light" or whatever if you have Hell to face next?
You are of course free to believe anything you wish. I too have had what you might call psychic experiences. Yet both me and my previous incarnations are skeptical.

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#22 Mar 12, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>You are of course free to believe anything you wish. I too have had what you might call psychic experiences. Yet both me and my previous incarnations are skeptical.
I've experienced some paranormal things. For instance, I was applying makeup or something, and my regimen took 8 minutes usually. I looked at the clock before and after I did it that time, and yes the clock was working properly. Only 2-3 minutes had elapsed, and I knew I was not that fast. Sure, that could be dismissed. Then I went out in the hallway. An orange light or whatever passed me rapidly. Perhaps that was just the setting sun. Then I went somewhere, and on the way back on a bicycle, I hit something, and when I went to investigate, there was nothing there. Oh, and I was subject to a lot of name-calling and bullying in my community, and for a couple of weeks, it stopped cold. It was like there was this protective wall around me. It started after befriending the 3rd person to tell the story about the "ghost" or whatever in the apartment, and stopped after we had an angry disagreement and went our own ways.

There were a couple of times I've had "psychic" moments too. One was where I had a sudden flash that I was being burglarized. When I went home, that was not the case. But a couple of months later, that happened. Coincidence? Maybe. Then there were times where I had mental flashes telling me an abusive Topix poster said things about me, and sure enough, they had. Could be called just an educated guess and good odds. Or when I get the urge to call a friend as they are walking into their door or on the way back from the toilet.

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