Petition to deport Piers Morgan hits 31,400

Dec 24, 2012 Full story: KSDK-TV Saint Louis 666

More than 31,400 people have signed a petition calling for British CNN host Piers Morgan to be deported from the U.S. over his gun-control views.

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Santa Fe, NM

#431 Jan 9, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>He's hosting a petition to deport Piers Morgan on his official White House website; that's support. He's more interested in venting against free speech than actual free speech and civil discourse.
Shame on Obama for demagogy; that petition has no place on a .gov website.
are insane.
so gun nuts

Santa Fe, NM

#432 Jan 9, 2013
after watching alex jonestown the other night and being schooled on the constitution by the president, do you want to unsign your stupid petition?
Press

Saltillo, MS

#433 Jan 9, 2013
News: Gun makers prepare to counter gun bans with refusal to do business with the military, law enforcement or any government entity. If their civilian products are banned then no sales to the government either.
Press

Saltillo, MS

#434 Jan 9, 2013
News: Secret Service prepares sharp sticks.
Mid Term 2014

Canton, GA

#435 Jan 9, 2013
If the law abiding citizens are disarmed.

The criminals will always be able to get guns on the black market.

I cannot think of one thing that has ever been banned, that cannot be obtained on the black market.

Firearms are incredibly easy to manufacture, all it takes is some basic machine shop skills.

The AK 47 is one of the easiest weapons to produce, the receiver is made entirely of 4140 steel plate, that is stamped then drilled, formed and hardened, the rest of the parts are very basic. A revolver is even easier to produce in a small foundry.

YOU CANNOT UN-INVENT THE GUN.

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#436 Jan 9, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>My point was that in homes where there is a gun, the risk of injury or death is 22 times greater than in homes without guns.
Maybe the cost of ammo has been driven up so much the gun owners can't afford to salt their walks?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#437 Jan 10, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>My point was that in homes where there is a gun, the risk of injury or death is 22 times greater than in homes without guns. You responded with a somewhat fatuous alleged analogy that in homes with stairs, the risk of falling down the stairs to one's death is greater. Assuming this is an apt comparison, it makes the case that homes without guns or stairs are safer.
I agree that there is no shame in asking for help. I also believe that the grass is green. But I don't see what either of these propositions has to do with the subject under discussion.
This directly counters your claim http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fact-sheets... 's-f.aspx

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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Wesley Chapel, FL

#438 Jan 10, 2013
Copy/paste the link below. Topix doesn't like the single quote in the link.

www.nraila.org/news-issues/fact-sheets/2001/2... 's-f.aspx

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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Wesley Chapel, FL

#439 Jan 10, 2013

Since: Jun 09

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#440 Jan 10, 2013

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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Wesley Chapel, FL

#441 Jan 10, 2013
Ferrerman wrote:
You mean the parole officer had easy access? You now want to restrict firearms for law enforcement as well?

“I know where you are,”

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Right here under my thumb

#442 Jan 10, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean the parole officer had easy access? You now want to restrict firearms for law enforcement as well?
Not all states require their parole officers to be armed - and very few want to be armed. They are not what one would consider "law enforcement." They are in reality, felon supervisors. If they have a felon that skips parole, meetings or court dates, they will contact the local law enforcement authorities.

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#443 Jan 10, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
Do you really believe Obama is the all power Oz? His powers are very limited.
The President's powers are limited by the Constitution, threatening a political commentator with deportation by hosting a petition on the President's White House website pushes against our Bill of Rights.

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eternal cynic wrote:
Thereís little heís done I approve of. Adding petitions to the White House website, Iím all for it.
So, in the first sentence you oppose Obama's agenda and in the second, you support it. That's not very consistent.

I oppose using the White House website to petition the government; it can be abused just like when Obama tacitly threatened Piers Morgan's political speech with the threat of deportation.

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eternal cynic wrote:
Let the people vent, allow them to post petitions seeking signatures.
Not on the government's website; petition through your own political alliances.

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eternal cynic wrote:
Where does it state the free press is to host the peopleís petitions? Do point that out.
Article one of the Bill of Rights restricts government from controlling speech; Obama's petition website abuses that right.

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eternal cynic wrote:
I direct you here. http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/ Awesome site, complete US Constitution with annotations. Great place to learn what our constitution says and actually means.
I direct you here:
http://www.heritage.org/constitution

Universities often shade their teaching with their own political agenda.

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eternal cynic wrote:
First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
How did you manage to conclude itís up to the free press to petition the government?
I wrote the people petition the government and the press is just one of many ways. Note, the Constitution says Obama's White House Terms of Participation:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/how-why/term...
is an explicit abridgment of freedom of speech.

Obama is stretching the limits of his powers to see if he can shred the Constitution without making you cry.

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eternal cynic wrote:
When in fact part of what the first amendment does is protect the right of the people to peaceably assemble and petition the government for a redress of grievances. What a great document. Read the related annotations http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/amdt1t...
You have it right in your quote above; the people's right to petition is protected, the White House shouldn't be moderating; but they are!

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eternal cynic wrote:
What abuse of power are you talking about? Giving the people the ability to petition is no abuse of power. Now, we would be in agreement on abuse of power if action was taken on the petition in question.
Take a look at the fine print in the Terms of Participation; Obama's White House has already threatened Piers Morgan's free speech.

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Right here under my thumb

#444 Jan 10, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Note, the Constitution says Obama's White House Terms of Participation:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/how-why/term...
is an explicit abridgment of freedom of speech.
Show me that part of the Constitution that says, "Obama's White House Terms of Participation is an explicit abridgement of freedom of speech."

I really want to see that word-for-word.
it is

Santa Fe, NM

#445 Jan 10, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The President's powers are limited by the Constitution, threatening a political commentator with deportation by hosting a petition on the President's White House website pushes against our Bill of Rights.
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<quoted text>So, in the first sentence you oppose Obama's agenda and in the second, you support it. That's not very consistent.
I oppose using the White House website to petition the government; it can be abused just like when Obama tacitly threatened Piers Morgan's political speech with the threat of deportation.
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<quoted text>Not on the government's website; petition through your own political alliances.
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<quoted text>Article one of the Bill of Rights restricts government from controlling speech; Obama's petition website abuses that right.
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<quoted text>I direct you here:
http://www.heritage.org/constitution
Universities often shade their teaching with their own political agenda.
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<quoted text>I wrote the people petition the government and the press is just one of many ways. Note, the Constitution says Obama's White House Terms of Participation:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/how-why/term...
is an explicit abridgment of freedom of speech.
Obama is stretching the limits of his powers to see if he can shred the Constitution without making you cry.
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<quoted text>You have it right in your quote above; the people's right to petition is protected, the White House shouldn't be moderating; but they are!
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<quoted text>Take a look at the fine print in the Terms of Participation; Obama's White House has already threatened Piers Morgan's free speech.
not the president's petition, moron. It was put up by right wing gun nuts. And he told them to suck rocks.

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Wesley Chapel, FL

#446 Jan 10, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
Not all states require their parole officers to be armed - and very few want to be armed. They are not what one would consider "law enforcement." They are in reality, felon supervisors. If they have a felon that skips parole, meetings or court dates, they will contact the local law enforcement authorities.
Pennsylvania law? As a parole officer he is indeed law enforcement. Does Fairyman support regulating guns in the hands of law enforcement?

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#447 Jan 10, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
Which petitions have they removed?
I don't know, they've been removed and the press isn't investigating.

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eternal cynic wrote:
Free speech has been infringed?
Piers Morgans free speech has been infringed by an official White House petition calling for his deportation because of his political speech.

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eternal cynic wrote:
Who has been deported?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/08/us/us-depor...
Record Number of Foreigners Were Deported in 2011, Officials Say
By JULIA PRESTON
Published: September 7, 2012

Immigration enforcement authorities detained and deported record numbers of illegal immigrants in 2011 and are on track for similar figures this year, even as the numbers of migrants crossing the border illegally dropped to a 40-year low, according to data published Friday by the Department of Homeland Security...

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eternal cynic wrote:
You couldnít initially locate the petition to impeach Obama. I donít think youíre qualified to determine which petitions may have been removed.
I say, remove them all! The people should moderate petitions; not the White House.

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eternal cynic wrote:
Itís in fact you with a desire to quash free speech.
^^^You would call Pravda,'free speech'.

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eternal cynic wrote:
The person that posted the petition has a first amendment right to petition the government. Those that sign the petition are also exercising their rights.
The President is restricted from moderation petitions but that's exactly what the Terms of Participation do.

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eternal cynic wrote:
I donít like the petition, I donít agree with it and I wonít sign it. But, I absolutely support the rights of those that disagree with me. Why canít you?
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eternal cynic wrote:
If the White House of government were to act on the petition then you and I would be closer to agreement.
They already act on the petitions, they publish them and respond if they gather enough interest. We could be closer to agreement if Bush's White House was hosting these petitions.

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Since: Nov 09

defeats BS

#448 Jan 10, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The President's powers are limited by the Constitution, threatening a political commentator with deportation by hosting a petition on the President's White House website pushes against our Bill of Rights.
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<quoted text>So, in the first sentence you oppose Obama's agenda and in the second, you support it. That's not very consistent.
I oppose using the White House website to petition the government; it can be abused just like when Obama tacitly threatened Piers Morgan's political speech with the threat of deportation.
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<quoted text>Not on the government's website; petition through your own political alliances.
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<quoted text>Article one of the Bill of Rights restricts government from controlling speech; Obama's petition website abuses that right.
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<quoted text>I direct you here:
http://www.heritage.org/constitution
Universities often shade their teaching with their own political agenda.
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<quoted text>I wrote the people petition the government and the press is just one of many ways. Note, the Constitution says Obama's White House Terms of Participation:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/how-why/term...
is an explicit abridgment of freedom of speech.
Obama is stretching the limits of his powers to see if he can shred the Constitution without making you cry.
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<quoted text>You have it right in your quote above; the people's right to petition is protected, the White House shouldn't be moderating; but they are!
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<quoted text>Take a look at the fine print in the Terms of Participation; Obama's White House has already threatened Piers Morgan's free speech.
Once you've eaten in excess of the threshold of waffle-fries tolerance, it's irreversible.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#449 Jan 10, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know, they've been removed and the press isn't investigating.
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<quoted text>Piers Morgans free speech has been infringed by an official White House petition calling for his deportation because of his political speech.
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<quoted text>
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/08/us/us-depor...
Record Number of Foreigners Were Deported in 2011, Officials Say
By JULIA PRESTON
Published: September 7, 2012
Immigration enforcement authorities detained and deported record numbers of illegal immigrants in 2011 and are on track for similar figures this year, even as the numbers of migrants crossing the border illegally dropped to a 40-year low, according to data published Friday by the Department of Homeland Security...
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<quoted text>I say, remove them all! The people should moderate petitions; not the White House.
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<quoted text>^^^You would call Pravda,'free speech'.
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<quoted text>The President is restricted from moderation petitions but that's exactly what the Terms of Participation do.
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<quoted text>
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<quoted text>They already act on the petitions, they publish them and respond if they gather enough interest. We could be closer to agreement if Bush's White House was hosting these petitions.
The president absolutely is not threating a commentator with deportation. Itís your twisted view of the world believing that.

You have a serious reading comprehension problem. I stated thereís little heís done I approve of. Then I stated I do approve of the petitions on the White House website. Do you believe itís an all or nothing?

Why not on the government website?

How is having the petitions on the website infringing freedom of speech?

Youíre an idiot if you believe Cornell altered the US Constitution. Did you visit the link? Likely not. Even using your link illustrate how the petitions violate anyoneís rights.

Did you read the responses? Petitions the White House actually addressed?

Why would it make a difference if the Bush Administration was hosting the petitions?

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#450 Jan 10, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Pennsylvania law? As a parole officer he is indeed law enforcement. Does Fairyman support regulating guns in the hands of law enforcement?
"Parole officers and probation officers play a role in criminal justice systems by supervising offenders released from incarceration or sentenced to non-custodial sanctions such as community service. In some jurisdictions parole or probation officers are involved in presenting reports on offenders and making sentencing recommendation to courts of law."

In some smaller communities, to save money, police officers have duel responsibilities and will fill the job as parole officer.

"May be armed"
All Pennsylvania probation departments require mandatory training for new officers. Each county conducts trainings at locations throughout the state. Some of the topics covered include officer safety, caseload management, report writing, testifying in court and domestic violence issues. For juvenile probation officers, initial, formal training takes 40 hours to complete. Pennsylvania probation officers may be armed, depending on the specific need, and these officers will complete a seven-day, 49-hour training course specific to firearm handling.

http://www.ehow.com/facts_6937207_training-re...

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