Petition to deport Piers Morgan hits ...

Petition to deport Piers Morgan hits 31,400

There are 666 comments on the KSDK-TV Saint Louis story from Dec 24, 2012, titled Petition to deport Piers Morgan hits 31,400. In it, KSDK-TV Saint Louis reports that:

More than 31,400 people have signed a petition calling for British CNN host Piers Morgan to be deported from the U.S. over his gun-control views.

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#410 Jan 9, 2013
Igloos are blue wrote:
M69, please tell we are not heading into the Obama isn't a citizen zone?
Cause I don't think the CIA and FBI are bumbling idiots, at the very least five in total have to be intelligent if you underestimate them at all....
Sorry, your question was lost in translation. Hard for me to understand.

Try typing it again and proof-reading it before posting.

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#411 Jan 9, 2013
Kkk wrote:
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he's waiting for you to go to hell, so he can drill you up the anal canal, and take your butt-buddy donald kaul with you!
You talk to Gacy? You and Donald Kaul would enjoy a threesome with Gacy, wouldn't you? You could even suck each others gun off.

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#412 Jan 9, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
Did I mention it was difficult to petition the government? You added that. I stated having the petitions on the website made it easier. Again, I do not like Obama. But, where has he supported deporting Piers?
He's hosting a petition to deport Piers Morgan on his official White House website; that's support. He's more interested in venting against free speech than actual free speech and civil discourse.

Shame on Obama for demagogy; that petition has no place on a .gov website.

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#413 Jan 9, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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The 14th Ammendment addresses citizenship - specifically "jus soli," or "right of the territory." In other words, if you're born on US soil you are declared a US citizen - no other country has this provision for citizens.
In addition, loss of 14th-Amendment-based U.S. citizenship is possible only under the following circumstances:
Fraud in the naturalization process. Technically this is not loss of citizenship, but rather a voiding of the purported naturalization and a declaration that the immigrant never was a U.S. citizen.
Voluntary relinquishment of citizenship. This may be accomplished either through renunciation procedures specially established by the State Department or through other actions (e.g., treason) which demonstrate an intention to give up U.S. citizenship. Such an act of expatriation must be accompanied by an intent to terminate United States citizenship.
Also, Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution requires that a candidate for President of the United States be a "natural-born citizen".
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_Clau...
Youíre expanding scope in an attempt to prove youíre correct. Address Richardís question.

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#414 Jan 9, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>He's hosting a petition to deport Piers Morgan on his official White House website; that's support. He's more interested in venting against free speech than actual free speech and civil discourse.
Shame on Obama for demagogy; that petition has no place on a .gov website.
By use of your logic he would also be supporting his own impeachment.

The site is hosting a method for people to post petitions. The White House is neither against or in support of any of the petitions due to their presence on the site. Why canít you grasp that?

Iím not for deporting Piers; Iíve stated that on this thread. I absolutely support his right to free speech on our soil despite fact I disagree with him.

Shall the petitions be censored? Would that make you happier?

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#415 Jan 9, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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Youíre expanding scope in an attempt to prove youíre correct. Address Richardís question.
I did already.

This was in answer to your's.

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#416 Jan 9, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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By use of your logic he would also be supporting his own impeachment.
The site is hosting a method for people to post petitions. The White House is neither against or in support of any of the petitions due to their presence on the site. Why canít you grasp that?
Iím not for deporting Piers; Iíve stated that on this thread. I absolutely support his right to free speech on our soil despite fact I disagree with him.
Shall the petitions be censored? Would that make you happier?
Dude/dudette, Brain will only come back with the same ***yawn*** answer.

He's a waste of time, IMO.

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#417 Jan 9, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> But your statistic includes drug and criminal activity. Yes drug dealers are more likely to be involved in violence the fact a gun was in their home does not mean the gun played any part but it is counted because it's there. Criminals prefer Nikes but they don't play any part of the criminals activity. Suicides are usually more likely to succeed with a gun but the facts are guns have no impact of suicide in general. Some people attempt several times before being successful so the ATTEMPTS are not counted even though injury occurred it is not counted as accident or a death. are you more likely to be injured by a gun if one is in the house? Of course but to imply these injuries are gun related and not owner incompetence is the same as grouping drunk drivers with ordinary drivers. It's no so much the car as the operator. Years ago a murder happened at a local college. A girl was beaten to death with a fake rifle from the band, the police ruled it gun related.
Nice try, but not a real answer.

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#418 Jan 9, 2013
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>Do you mean in a home with a gun someone is more likely to be injured or injured with a gun ?
This sounds like in a home with steps people are more likely to fall down steps.
Too dumb to earn a serious reply. You just made my point for me.

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#419 Jan 9, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Basically, your statement said that homes with guns are more accident prone than other homes, you cannot back that statement up at all, ever. In fact, I'd bet you'd find that homes where guns are not present are more likely to be homes where accidents occur by simple logic that firearms owners are typically people who follow safety rules, they know cause and effect and more likely persons who live a life of personal responsibility. Therefore, it is more likely that homes where gun ownership is not a part of the family culture, are more likely to suffer injuries from accidents.
As I said, my statistic is verifiable. But from your perspective, I wouldn't want to know the truth either.

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#420 Jan 9, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
Is it my imagination that those of the left, the ones that consider themselves more enlightened and educated are actually the bo-bos talking out of their 8th grade educated a$$?
It is your imagination. Do you know what projecting means?

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#421 Jan 9, 2013
65007noogard wrote:
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I'd tell ya to suck it Larry, but I see someone else has already shut you up. LoL.
I'd tell you to bend over, but I see your clients have already lined up.

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#422 Jan 9, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
By use of your logic he would also be supporting his own impeachment.
In a sense; that's almost true. When the President knows only Congress can impeach a President; and then only in accordance with Section 4 of Article Two of the United States Constitution: "The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."

So, Obama isn't supporting actual impeachment, but instead is misdirecting the people from the true court of impeachment, Congress; and offering a show trial of impeachment. This way, Obama distracts low information voters by offering White House Pravda governance.

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eternal cynic wrote:
The site is hosting a method for people to post petitions.
The free press has that responsibility under our Constitution. The people's job is petitioning Congress; the White House's job is to carry out the policy of the President.

Since our press has become the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party; you'll hardly hear a word in protest of Obama's unconstitutional misdeeds.

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eternal cynic wrote:
The White House is neither against or in support of any of the petitions due to their presence on the site. Why canít you grasp that?
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eternal cynic wrote:
Iím not for deporting Piers; Iíve stated that on this thread. I absolutely support his right to free speech on our soil despite fact I disagree with him.
I disagree with him too; but it's disgusting to see an official White House website hosting a petition for his deportation for his political speech. That's an abuse of power.

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eternal cynic wrote:
Shall the petitions be censored? Would that make you happier?
I think I'd like to see it heavily censored to allow only petitions that are Constitutional. That way, we'll know our president understands his responsibilities under the law and know he isn't playing hate politic games.

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#423 Jan 9, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
The White House is neither against or in support of any of the petitions due to their presence on the site. Why canít you grasp that?
The White House hosts all the petitions on its website; they have the power to remove any petition they wish to. Instead of directing people to free speech, they host petitions to shut down free speech by deporting political commentators.

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#424 Jan 9, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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I did already.
This was in answer to your's.
Ah yes, you mean where I asked you to point out exactly where ďunalienable rightsĒ was in the US Constitution?

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#425 Jan 9, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>In a sense; that's almost true. When the President knows only Congress can impeach a President; and then only in accordance with Section 4 of Article Two of the United States Constitution: "The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."
So, Obama isn't supporting actual impeachment, but instead is misdirecting the people from the true court of impeachment, Congress; and offering a show trial of impeachment. This way, Obama distracts low information voters by offering White House Pravda governance.
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<quoted text>The free press has that responsibility under our Constitution. The people's job is petitioning Congress; the White House's job is to carry out the policy of the President.
Since our press has become the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party; you'll hardly hear a word in protest of Obama's unconstitutional misdeeds.
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<quoted text>I disagree with him too; but it's disgusting to see an official White House website hosting a petition for his deportation for his political speech. That's an abuse of power.
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<quoted text>I think I'd like to see it heavily censored to allow only petitions that are Constitutional. That way, we'll know our president understands his responsibilities under the law and know he isn't playing hate politic games.
Do you really believe Obama is the all power Oz? His powers are very limited. Thereís little heís done I approve of. Adding petitions to the White House website, Iím all for it. Let the people vent, allow them to post petitions seeking signatures.

Where does it state the free press is to host the peopleís petitions? Do point that out.

I direct you here. http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/ Awesome site, complete US Constitution with annotations. Great place to learn what our constitution says and actually means.

First Amendment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

How did you manage to conclude itís up to the free press to petition the government? When in fact part of what the first amendment does is protect the right of the people to peaceably assemble and petition the government for a redress of grievances. What a great document. Read the related annotations http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/amdt1t...


What abuse of power are you talking about? Giving the people the ability to petition is no abuse of power. Now, we would be in agreement on abuse of power if action was taken on the petition in question.

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#426 Jan 9, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The White House hosts all the petitions on its website; they have the power to remove any petition they wish to. Instead of directing people to free speech, they host petitions to shut down free speech by deporting political commentators.
Which petitions have they removed? Free speech has been infringed? Who has been deported? You couldnít initially locate the petition to impeach Obama. I donít think youíre qualified to determine which petitions may have been removed.

Itís in fact you with a desire to quash free speech. The person that posted the petition has a first amendment right to petition the government. Those that sign the petition are also exercising their rights.

I donít like the petition, I donít agree with it and I wonít sign it. But, I absolutely support the rights of those that disagree with me. Why canít you?

If the White House of government were to act on the petition then you and I would be closer to agreement.

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#427 Jan 9, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Too dumb to earn a serious reply. You just made my point for me.
If you don't understand the point I will explain it.

There is no shame in asking for help.

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#428 Jan 9, 2013
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>If you don't understand the point I will explain it.
There is no shame in asking for help.
My point was that in homes where there is a gun, the risk of injury or death is 22 times greater than in homes without guns. You responded with a somewhat fatuous alleged analogy that in homes with stairs, the risk of falling down the stairs to one's death is greater. Assuming this is an apt comparison, it makes the case that homes without guns or stairs are safer.

I agree that there is no shame in asking for help. I also believe that the grass is green. But I don't see what either of these propositions has to do with the subject under discussion.

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#429 Jan 9, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Sorry, your question was lost in translation. Hard for me to understand.
Try typing it again and proof-reading it before posting.
:o)
Honestly.
You think they're idiots?!

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