Petition to deport Piers Morgan hits 31,400

Dec 24, 2012 Full story: KSDK-TV Saint Louis 666

More than 31,400 people have signed a petition calling for British CNN host Piers Morgan to be deported from the U.S. over his gun-control views.

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#390 Jan 8, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
14th Ammendment (first paragraph):
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
No mention of “unalienable rights” in the fourteenth amendment. Try again.

Read the First Amendment, did you see mention of the right being reserved to citizens?

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#391 Jan 8, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Actually no...The Constitution doesn't apply to Americans, it doesn't apply to citizens, it doesn't even apply to "people," foreign or domestic. It applies to the federal government.
The body of the Constitution tells the federal government what it is allowed to do, and in some places it explains how to do it (election procedures and such). The Bill of Rights tells the federal government what it is not allowed to do.
So, yeah - I guess you could call yourself an "internet scholar."
You would be correct until the addition of the Fourteenth Amendment. It was the fourteenth used to apply the full impact of the second amendment to the City of Chicago.

Spend a few minutes, read the McDonald v. Chicago decision. Then read the Fourteenth Amendment again. You may see the light. The US Constitution is no longer a burden solely on the federal government, states and local municipalities now share that burden.

You are indeed correct the US citizens do not bear the burden of the US Constitution. You can eject someone legally from your property simply for the things they say.

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#392 Jan 8, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Oh, that's right - that's controlled by the Geneva Convention.
And what would the definition (per the Constitution) a "resident alien" be?
Just trying to learn something from the "internet scholar".
Wrong again, the Geneva Convention is a *treaty* or more accurately several treaties which we’ve agreed to. It’s in no way law in the US.

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#393 Jan 8, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>You're seriously wrong, the only right in the US constitution that hinges on citizenship is the right to vote.
It also limits the eligibility to become president to natural born citizens.

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#394 Jan 8, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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In general, non-immigrant aliens are forbidden to possess any firearms or ammunition.
But there is a big exception for a legal alien who is in possession of a hunting license or permit lawfully issued in the United States
(See Title 18, USC Chapter 44, Section 922, part (y)(2) for details.)
Green-card holders and immigrant aliens who do not yet have their green card are both okay under federal law to own a hunting license, although many people (including gun dealers, law enforcement officers, etc.) are not aware of the distinction or the hunting license exception, and erroneously think that either you have a green card, or you can't have guns.
Also, a non-citizen cannot purchase a firearm from a federally licensed firerams dealer unless they have been a resident of their state for 90 days. So, no, tourists on short visits cannot walk into guns stores to get "protection" during their trip.
Now you’re attempting to substitute law for what the US Constitution states.

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#395 Jan 8, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I attack demagogy; hate politics is bad for everyone.
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<quoted text>I'd prefer the President didn't try to appeal to populism and low information voters; ignorance isn't bliss.
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<quoted text>Here you admit; the point of the website is demagogy, not political discourse.
Down with the Obama administration for hosting antiAmerican petitions.
I don’t have to admit anything of the sort. I do not like Obama; chances are good I’ll never like Obama. However, I do applaud his administration for making it easier to petition the government.

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#396 Jan 8, 2013
When was it ever hard to petition the government? You admit, the purpose of the website is to let the people vent: that's populism. If that venting is directed against free speech: that's demagogy.

The Obama administration is willing to promote limiting free speech (deporting a political commentator for political speech) in order to gain public approval. Down with Obama!
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60s chic

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#399 Jan 8, 2013
Piers didn't say that all guns should be taken away; only the military style assault weapons or the ones very similar to it. He said there are at least 3 million firearms in the U.S and admitted that it would be impossible to get them all out of circulation. He has nothing against citizens owning a pistol or handgun for protection. Maybe I missed something as I didn't follow the complete story, but why is he being dissed so badly and why do people think he should be deported? Ok, I suppose it's about interfering with America's right to firearms and the 2nd amendment, but has he started a crusade of some sort?
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#400 Jan 8, 2013
60s chic wrote:
Piers didn't say that all guns should be taken away; only the military style assault weapons or the ones very similar to it. He said there are at least 3 million firearms in the U.S and admitted that it would be impossible to get them all out of circulation. He has nothing against citizens owning a pistol or handgun for protection. Maybe I missed something as I didn't follow the complete story, but why is he being dissed so badly and why do people think he should be deported? Ok, I suppose it's about interfering with America's right to firearms and the 2nd amendment, but has he started a crusade of some sort?
Millions of people own semi auto versions of military style firearms. Most are in safe and sane hands. Just because someone owns this type gun, does not mean they intend to harm someone. Most use them for target shooting, and competition shoots.

The majority of firearm related crimes are committed by people who are not legal to own any gun.

Don't be tricked, the gun grabbers want all guns, they are just starting with this type because they LOOK SCARY. If they can get these guns banned they will find another type to go after, until they have completely disarmed the civilian population.

Remember many lives have been saved by armed citizens, the police cannot be everywhere all the time.

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#401 Jan 9, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
When was it ever hard to petition the government? You admit, the purpose of the website is to let the people vent: that's populism. If that venting is directed against free speech: that's demagogy.
The Obama administration is willing to promote limiting free speech (deporting a political commentator for political speech) in order to gain public approval. Down with Obama!
Did I mention it was difficult to petition the government? You added that. I stated having the petitions on the website made it easier.

Again, I do not like Obama. But, where has he supported deporting Piers?

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#402 Jan 9, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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Now you’re attempting to substitute law for what the US Constitution states.
I'm not attempting to substitute anything. The statement by the guy with the chick avatar is that if you're not a citizen of the United States, you do not have the same "freedoms" under the Constitution as US citizens do.

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#403 Jan 9, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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I'm not attempting to substitute anything. The statement by the guy with the chick avatar is that if you're not a citizen of the United States, you do not have the same "freedoms" under the Constitution as US citizens do.
The Bill of Rights is silent on citizenship. What you posted was title 18.

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#404 Jan 9, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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The Bill of Rights is silent on citizenship. What you posted was title 18.
The 14th Ammendment addresses citizenship - specifically "jus soli," or "right of the territory." In other words, if you're born on US soil you are declared a US citizen - no other country has this provision for citizens.

In addition, loss of 14th-Amendment-based U.S. citizenship is possible only under the following circumstances:

Fraud in the naturalization process. Technically this is not loss of citizenship, but rather a voiding of the purported naturalization and a declaration that the immigrant never was a U.S. citizen.

Voluntary relinquishment of citizenship. This may be accomplished either through renunciation procedures specially established by the State Department or through other actions (e.g., treason) which demonstrate an intention to give up U.S. citizenship. Such an act of expatriation must be accompanied by an intent to terminate United States citizenship.

Also, Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution requires that a candidate for President of the United States be a "natural-born citizen".

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_Clau...
Igloos are blue

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#405 Jan 9, 2013
What is bloody wrong with Morgan!?!
A few years back he was attacking Brits for NOT having guns. He spat out stats about household invasions and assaults because Brits didn't have guns at home like in America. He was so moved about it he even brought up the point that criminals in England have gun but the police don't! Something is terribly wrong, it is unlike this man. There is more in the trunk and closet. And that MORON!!! They are purposely setting the scene for another shotting, he looks like a crazed Tea Party member,... mind you some of their points are valid but they make them look nuts. This guy with the petition, he's giving those responsible, self-controlled, respectable gun holding citizens a bad rap. This is insane...#*&$^%
At the end of the day, I pray and hope they don't take guns away from the citizens as to regulation, there should always be laws about who owns guns.
One thing that I am so confused about. I've always thought that gun running and guns went hand in hand, one forges dough to provide the protection to keep the dough,... but this seems to be a silent matter. CLOSE THE BORDER or something, idiots.
If drugs can't get in then neither can guns. It'll be easier for law enforcement to track a set then a constant flux.
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#406 Jan 9, 2013
gunning running and drugs DRUGS went hand in hand

correction, sorry
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#407 Jan 9, 2013
This was a disaster.
I don't think they the populace should pay for this man and his mother. What was she thinking, he son is practically ready to be institutionalized and she's gathering guns...

There are plenty of family members that do not believe in putting sick members away or medicate...

This is almost IMPOSSIBLE to "regulate".

I'd have to agree, put a cop in school or invest in metal detectors and automatic lock downs like they do in jail. We all know the inner city schools already look like it...
Igloos are blue

Quakertown, PA

#408 Jan 9, 2013
THIS is America, and todays America anyone can say anything! If people can say and do the things they do against our own soldiers when they return from war zones then darn it, Morgan can say anything he wants too..

I don't agree with idiots that talk down servicemen and women. Lets just have that straighten out.
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Quakertown, PA

#409 Jan 9, 2013
M69, please tell we are not heading into the Obama isn't a citizen zone?

Cause I don't think the CIA and FBI are bumbling idiots, at the very least five in total have to be intelligent if you underestimate them at all....

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