Petition to deport Piers Morgan hits 31,400

Dec 24, 2012 Full story: KSDK-TV Saint Louis 666

More than 31,400 people have signed a petition calling for British CNN host Piers Morgan to be deported from the U.S. over his gun-control views.

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#370 Jan 8, 2013
"...SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED..." clearly means that, yes, you CAN mount a chainsaw to a silenced AK47.

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#371 Jan 8, 2013
nope wrote:
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the Supreme Court has squarely stated that neither
the First Amendment nor the Fifth Amendment "acknowledges
any distinction between citizens and resident aliens.
These internet constitutional "scholars" prove daily they really don't know anything about the bill of rights.
Actually no...The Constitution doesn't apply to Americans, it doesn't apply to citizens, it doesn't even apply to "people," foreign or domestic. It applies to the federal government.

The body of the Constitution tells the federal government what it is allowed to do, and in some places it explains how to do it (election procedures and such). The Bill of Rights tells the federal government what it is not allowed to do.

So, yeah - I guess you could call yourself an "internet scholar."
uuh

Santa Fe, NM

#372 Jan 8, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Actually no...The Constitution doesn't apply to Americans, it doesn't apply to citizens, it doesn't even apply to "people," foreign or domestic. It applies to the federal government.
The body of the Constitution tells the federal government what it is allowed to do, and in some places it explains how to do it (election procedures and such). The Bill of Rights tells the federal government what it is not allowed to do.
So, yeah - I guess you could call yourself an "internet scholar."
in terms of what the federal government is not allowed to do, it makes no distinction between citizens and resident aliens.

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#373 Jan 8, 2013
uuh wrote:
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in terms of what the federal government is not allowed to do, it makes no distinction between citizens and resident aliens.
Oh, that's right - that's controlled by the Geneva Convention.

And what would the definition (per the Constitution) a "resident alien" be?

Just trying to learn something from the "internet scholar".
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#374 Jan 8, 2013
Deer Whisperer wrote:
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This tar and feather vigilante justice your obsessed with should be examined:
"In a typical tar-and-feathers attack, the mob's victim was stripped to his waist. Hot tar was either poured or painted onto the person while he was immobilized. Then the victim either had feathers thrown on him or was rolled around on a pile of feathers so they stuck to the tar. Often the victim was then paraded around town on a cart or wooden rail. The aim was to inflict enough pain and humiliation on a person to make him either conform his behavior to the mob's demands or be driven from town. The practice was never an official punishment in the United States, but rather a form of vigilante attack.
A more brutal derivation, called pitchcapping, was used by British forces against Irish rebels during the period of the Irish Rebellion of 1798. Sometimes only the head was shaven, tarred and feathered; at other times, a match was held to the feathers to light them and the tar on fire to inflict pain."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_and_feather#...
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Sometimes the politicians or local officials were "in on the game" and/or "the good citizens" of the community would mete out this less fatal lynch-mob justice. The target could be a duly appointed or elected official to whom 'the good citizens" would "teach a lesson". Federal tax agents were targets of citizens in the Whiskey Rebellion of the early days of our country under Geo. Washington.
Would be used as punishment in army and navy contexts to instill discipline. Used against prisoners of opposing sides in conflicts.
The clergy were favored targets occasionally including the Mormon leader Joseph Smith.
And lets highlight:
"In 1917, during an incident known as the Tulsa Outrage, a group of black-robed Knights of Liberty tarred and feathered seventeen members of the IWW in Oklahoma.[8]
In the 1920s, vigilantes opposed to IWW organizers at California's harbor of San Pedro, kidnapped at least one organizer, subjected him to tarring and feathering, and left him in a remote location.
This was a relatively rare form of mob punishment for Republican Negroes in the post-bellum U.S. South, as its goal is typically pain and humiliation rather than death (as in the more common lynching and burning alive).[9] There were several examples of tarring and feathering of Negroes in the lead-up to World War I in Vicksburg, Mississippi.[9]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_and_feather#...
I don't really care who came up with it or how it was use. It's still a great way if inspiring politicians to exercise ethics.
not

Santa Fe, NM

#375 Jan 8, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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addressed. So the government to deport him for exercising free speech violates the 1st.
Besara

Des Moines, IA

#376 Jan 8, 2013
not wrote:
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addressed. So the government to deport him for exercising free speech violates the 1st.
Are you still pining for your poster boy John Gacy?

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#377 Jan 8, 2013
not wrote:
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addressed. So the government to deport him for exercising free speech violates the 1st.
Wrong again, "internet scholar."

A petition has been filed and addressed to the White House by the "American" people with over 100,000 signatures to have him deported. The government has not (and probably will not) made a decision yet on any deportation action.

The government can deport anyone it feels is a threat to the freedom and sanctity of the United States, which in this case is highly unlikely - if he has a legal work visa.

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#378 Jan 8, 2013
Here, this is for all of our "internet scholars," including Brain.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/alex-jone...
Yeah

Santa Fe, NM

#379 Jan 8, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Wrong again, "internet scholar."
A petition has been filed and addressed to the White House by the "American" people with over 100,000 signatures to have him deported. The government has not (and probably will not) made a decision yet on any deportation action.
The government can deport anyone it feels is a threat to the freedom and sanctity of the United States, which in this case is highly unlikely - if he has a legal work visa.
right for exercising freedom of speech consistent with the views of most people in the country.

Yes, highly unlikely.
Yeah

Santa Fe, NM

#380 Jan 8, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
Here, this is for all of our "internet scholars," including Brain.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/alex-jone...
Alex Jonestown is ffin insane and a real threat, but he's still here.

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#381 Jan 8, 2013
Yeah wrote:
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right for exercising freedom of speech consistent with the views of most people in the country.
Yes, highly unlikely.
I'm not pro-gun, but I gotta' tell you - this guy's a nut.

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#382 Jan 8, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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He is a foreign citizen - he has no "unalienable rights" under the Constitution, including free speech, in this country, IMO.
You're seriously wrong, the only right in the US constitution that hinges on citizenship is the right to vote.

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#383 Jan 8, 2013
nope wrote:
<quoted text>
the Supreme Court has squarely stated that neither
the First Amendment nor the Fifth Amendment "acknowledges
any distinction between citizens and resident aliens.
These internet constitutional "scholars" prove daily they really don't know anything about the bill of rights.
A person doesn't need to be a citizen in order to legally keep and bear arms in the US, the wording is quite clear, "the right of the PEOPLE to bear arms shall not be infringed". People doesn't mean citizens.

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#384 Jan 8, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>A person doesn't need to be a citizen in order to legally keep and bear arms in the US, the wording is quite clear, "the right of the PEOPLE to bear arms shall not be infringed". People doesn't mean citizens.
In general, non-immigrant aliens are forbidden to possess any firearms or ammunition.

But there is a big exception for a legal alien who is in possession of a hunting license or permit lawfully issued in the United States

(See Title 18, USC Chapter 44, Section 922, part (y)(2) for details.)

Green-card holders and immigrant aliens who do not yet have their green card are both okay under federal law to own a hunting license, although many people (including gun dealers, law enforcement officers, etc.) are not aware of the distinction or the hunting license exception, and erroneously think that either you have a green card, or you can't have guns.

Also, a non-citizen cannot purchase a firearm from a federally licensed firerams dealer unless they have been a resident of their state for 90 days. So, no, tourists on short visits cannot walk into guns stores to get "protection" during their trip.

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#385 Jan 8, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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I'm not pro-gun, but I gotta' tell you - this guy's a nut.
Jones has always been a nut. He almost makes Morgan look sane.

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#386 Jan 8, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> I don't really care who came up with it or how it was use. It's still a great way if inspiring politicians to exercise ethics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =3oKwg6W05MUXX
You are experienced at this exercise in being a pillar of society?

Not content with the usual method of getting a rascal out of office? Rallying enough votes to boot out or voices to convince an appointing authority to make a change?

Just venting, right?!

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#387 Jan 8, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
Didn’t suggest there was a constitutional right to publish a petition on the White House website. I stated one of our rights protected by the first amendment is the right to petition the government. The website simply makes that easier. I applaud our government for making the petition process easier. You instead attack.
I attack demagogy; hate politics is bad for everyone.

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eternal cynic wrote:
Finally you got it right. Piers does indeed have the right to offer his opinion without fear of deportation. But, again you miss the point of the petitions on the website. Would you prefer the website be heavily censored?
I'd prefer the President didn't try to appeal to populism and low information voters; ignorance isn't bliss.

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eternal cynic wrote:
Do you really think the petition to deport would be taken seriously by the administration? Let the people vent, let them think they’re doing something.
Here you admit; the point of the website is demagogy, not political discourse.

Down with the Obama administration for hosting antiAmerican petitions.
Kkk

Fort Myers, FL

#388 Jan 8, 2013
Besara wrote:
<quoted text>Are you still pining for your poster boy John Gacy?
he's waiting for you to go to hell, so he can drill you up the anal canal, and take your butt-buddy donald kaul with you!

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#389 Jan 8, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Especially when they claim diplomatic immunity, right?
Piers wouldn’t have diplomatic immunity. Trying to move the goal post?

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