Petition to deport Piers Morgan hits 31,400

Dec 24, 2012 Full story: KSDK-TV Saint Louis 666

More than 31,400 people have signed a petition calling for British CNN host Piers Morgan to be deported from the U.S. over his gun-control views.

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#330 Jan 5, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Obama's official White House website is hosting the petition to deport Piers Morgan. They are playing off populist hate politics to silence a political opponent.
At this point youíre simply stuck on stupid. Youíve been told over and over anyone can start a petition on the site. I gave you several examples of current petitions Obama absolutely wouldnít support including his own impeachment.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#331 Jan 5, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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I would guess that no one on the internet - including you - would ever be in a position to defend the NRA. This is the internet pal - any freshman in high school can pull up data and information just as well or better than yourself. The NRA already has blood on their hands from Columbine - it's nothing they haven't danced around before.
I much better question would be, what has the NRA done to defend the lives of children, other than to suggest we spend lots of money and arm teachers?
The NRA is not a government or law enforcement agency and is in no way responsible for ANYONES safety. The NRA didn't write the Constitution. The NRA does not provide human rights or the right to self defense. The NRA is simply a group of citizens banding together to protect those already existing rights from government infringement. Perhaps this is where you blame the Connecticut Boating Club for not protecting those kids.

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#332 Jan 5, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
At this point youíre simply stuck on stupid. Youíve been told over and over anyone can start a petition on the site. I gave you several examples of current petitions Obama absolutely wouldnít support including his own impeachment.
I understand "anyone can start a petition on the site"; that's part of the problem. Obama is hosting a petition to deport a political commentator for his political speech on an official White House website.

I can't find a petition to impeach the President there; can you provide a URL?

What would you have said if Bush hosted a petition to deport his political opponents?

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#333 Jan 5, 2013
65007noogard wrote:
More murders are committed every year with clubs and hammers than with guns. Why isn't anyone going for more hammer and club control?
First of all, you are a liar. I'd like to see your pseudo-statistics.

Here's one for you. In homes where there are guns, the likelihood that someone will be injured or worse is 22 times greater than in homes without guns. My claim is verifiable. Yor claim is pure bullshit.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#334 Jan 5, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>First of all, you are a liar. I'd like to see your pseudo-statistics.
Here's one for you. In homes where there are guns, the likelihood that someone will be injured or worse is 22 times greater than in homes without guns. My claim is verifiable. Yor claim is pure bullshit.
Annual FBI crime statistics show that more people are killed with clubs and hammers each year than by rifles or shotguns.

In 2011, there were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs. There were 356 murders in which a shotgun was the deadly weapon of choice.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#335 Jan 5, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>First of all, you are a liar. I'd like to see your pseudo-statistics.
Here's one for you. In homes where there are guns, the likelihood that someone will be injured or worse is 22 times greater than in homes without guns. My claim is verifiable. Yor claim is pure bullshit.
Homicides include but not limited to, self defense, police, suicide, criminal on criminal, also where a gun was used as a blunt object to kill even without firing a shot. Murder on the other hand is the intentional illegal taking of another human life. Apples to apples remember. You want to know what criminals like then ask one. 57% of felons polled agreed that "criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police. Justice Department study:

* 3/5 of felons polled agreed that "a criminal is not going to mess around with a victim he knows is armed with a gun."(42)

* 74% of felons polled agreed that "one reason burglars avoid houses when people are at home is that they fear being shot during the crime.

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#336 Jan 5, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Homicides include but not limited to, self defense, police, suicide, criminal on criminal, also where a gun was used as a blunt object to kill even without firing a shot. Murder on the other hand is the intentional illegal taking of another human life. Apples to apples remember. You want to know what criminals like then ask one. 57% of felons polled agreed that "criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police. Justice Department study:
* 3/5 of felons polled agreed that "a criminal is not going to mess around with a victim he knows is armed with a gun."(42)
* 74% of felons polled agreed that "one reason burglars avoid houses when people are at home is that they fear being shot during the crime.
Fair enough. Now deal with my statistic.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#337 Jan 5, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Fair enough. Now deal with my statistic.
But your statistic includes drug and criminal activity. Yes drug dealers are more likely to be involved in violence the fact a gun was in their home does not mean the gun played any part but it is counted because it's there. Criminals prefer Nikes but they don't play any part of the criminals activity. Suicides are usually more likely to succeed with a gun but the facts are guns have no impact of suicide in general. Some people attempt several times before being successful so the ATTEMPTS are not counted even though injury occurred it is not counted as accident or a death. are you more likely to be injured by a gun if one is in the house? Of course but to imply these injuries are gun related and not owner incompetence is the same as grouping drunk drivers with ordinary drivers. It's no so much the car as the operator. Years ago a murder happened at a local college. A girl was beaten to death with a fake rifle from the band, the police ruled it gun related.

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#338 Jan 5, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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How exactly is the Columbine shooting the fault of the NRA?
Why would the NRA expand the scope of their mission? To meet your expectations?
LOL, the NRA didn't have anything to do with Columbine, it was big pharma that settled out of courts with the parents. Besides, the Columbine kids were illegal possessors of those firearms, they were the criminals from beginning to end.

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#339 Jan 5, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>LOL, the NRA didn't have anything to do with Columbine, it was big pharma that settled out of courts with the parents. Besides, the Columbine kids were illegal possessors of those firearms, they were the criminals from beginning to end.
Well said.

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#340 Jan 5, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>First of all, you are a liar. I'd like to see your pseudo-statistics.
Here's one for you. In homes where there are guns, the likelihood that someone will be injured or worse is 22 times greater than in homes without guns. My claim is verifiable. Your claim is pure bullshit.
Do you mean in a home with a gun someone is more likely to be injured or injured with a gun ?

This sounds like in a home with steps people are more likely to fall down steps.

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#341 Jan 5, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
In homes where there are guns, the likelihood that someone will be injured or worse is 22 times greater than in homes without guns. My claim is verifiable.
Basically, your statement said that homes with guns are more accident prone than other homes, you cannot back that statement up at all, ever. In fact, I'd bet you'd find that homes where guns are not present are more likely to be homes where accidents occur by simple logic that firearms owners are typically people who follow safety rules, they know cause and effect and more likely persons who live a life of personal responsibility. Therefore, it is more likely that homes where gun ownership is not a part of the family culture, are more likely to suffer injuries from accidents.

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#342 Jan 5, 2013
Is it my imagination that those of the left, the ones that consider themselves more enlightened and educated are actually the bo-bos talking out of their 8th grade educated a$$?

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#343 Jan 5, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>First of all, you are a liar. I'd like to see your pseudo-statistics.
Here's one for you. In homes where there are guns, the likelihood that someone will be injured or worse is 22 times greater than in homes without guns. My claim is verifiable. Yor claim is pure bullshit.
I'd tell ya to suck it Larry, but I see someone else has already shut you up. LoL.

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#344 Jan 5, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
Is it my imagination that those of the left, the ones that consider themselves more enlightened and educated are actually the bo-bos talking out of their 8th grade educated a$$?
No. It's not your imagination.
It is

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#345 Jan 5, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> The NRA
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an industry lobby, bonehead, promoting their products through fear and hiding behind the consitution. Out to take your money and influence the political process.

What industry benefits from putting an armed guard in every school?
nope

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#346 Jan 5, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
Is it my imagination that those of the left, the ones that consider themselves more enlightened and educated are actually the bo-bos talking out of their 8th grade educated a$$?
it is a delusion

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#347 Jan 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I understand "anyone can start a petition on the site"; that's part of the problem. Obama is hosting a petition to deport a political commentator for his political speech on an official White House website.
I can't find a petition to impeach the President there; can you provide a URL?
What would you have said if Bush hosted a petition to deport his political opponents?
The fact anyone can start a petition is part of the problem? Who should be allowed to start an opinion? One of our rights addressed by the first amendment is the right to petition the government. Shall we limit that?

Canít find it? Really? Did you try?

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-...

What does Bush have to do with any of this? I donít recall seeing petitions on the White House page when Bush was in office. That doesnít mean there were no petitions. I just donít know.

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#348 Jan 7, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>First of all, you are a liar. I'd like to see your pseudo-statistics.
Here's one for you. In homes where there are guns, the likelihood that someone will be injured or worse is 22 times greater than in homes without guns. My claim is verifiable. Yor claim is pure bullshit.
Provide evidence of your claim.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#349 Jan 7, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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Provide evidence of your claim.
After doing some research he's right. A criminal is 22x more likely to get hurt in a home with a gun than an unarmed home. Crawling in the window of defenseless victims is much much safer than the window of an armed victim.

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