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#22 Mar 6, 2014
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Undeniable Proof The U.S. State Department Puppet-masters Fueled and Orchestrated the Ukraine Regime Change?(AUDIO INCLUDED)
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1:42 pm March 5, 2014
Yesterday I wrote a story showing how Russia is being backed into a corner in the global game of power chess through the crises in Ukraine. I asked questions that virtually all mainstream media is refusing to ask. In fact, most media is projecting Russia’s Putin as a power hungry tyrant looking to confront the U.S. while it has a weak President in Barack Obama. My theory, as reported yesterday, is that the opposite is actually true. I’m finding evidence that suggests it was U.S. interests, in collaboration with the likes of George Soros, that orchestrated the “new coalition” to fuel riots and bring down the leadership in Ukraine.
I sent the article out to 80,000 LibertyNews.com subscribers and this morning found my inbox full of some very, very interesting responses. One included mention of audio recordings that came out about a month or so ago. Somehow I had initially missed the news of these recordings (mainstream media was silent) so had to catch up on what went on. Once I got into the dirty details, I was shocked at what I found.
In the call recording we hear an almost unbelievable discussion between the U.S. Assistant Secretary of State (Victoria Nuland) and the U.S. Envoy to the Ukraine (Geoffrey Pyatt) collaborating on who they want in control of Ukraine once the “protestors” succeed in toppling the existing government. Nuland even says “f**k the EU” when the European Union involvement comes into the conversation.
In the phone call audio we hear the Assistant Secretary of State directing the events from Washington as Pyatt is on the ground coordinating the new power structure the U.S. wants in place when the “new coalition” forces the Ukraine government out. We also hear Nuland and Pyatt discuss Russia’s opposition to the prospects for new leadership and we hear Nuland say Vice President Joe Biden is available to come in on the situation if needed.
Keep in mind this conversation took place BEFORE regime change happened in Ukraine!
It didn't take a genius to realize that the existing government was on its way out when that conversation took place. Anybody who understand the history of that region, understood that once he made his pact with russia his days were numbered. Ukrainians do not like Russia. The soviets had to fight a bloody resistance movement in the Ukraine after WWII to regain control of that region. Even most Russians in eastern Ukraine do not want to be apart of Russia.

Putin is just upset, because he has grand vision to create a Economic Bloc that includes many former soviet republics really needs the Ukraine. They strong armed the last government into turning away from the EU and towards Russia, but it blew up in their faces, because the Ukrainian people rightfully do not want to be under Russia's thumb.

These are facts.

The Russians are also lying about the troops in Crimea not being Russian troops. They are using Russian military vehicles with Russian tags on them. We don't even need to speculate about that or use harebrained conspiracy theories to know this is true. It's an invasion and an attempt to annex Crimea via referendum that will take place at the end of a gun barrel along with all sorts of bribes and promises of what will happen if that area leaves Crimea. It won't be a legitimate referendum, even if it favors the Russians.

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#23 Mar 6, 2014
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"World War II is the war to end all wars!" Yeah! Right! I can't keep track anymore.
Libya
Iraq
Iran
Afghanistan
Pakistan
Syria
Ukraine
Kuwait
What am I missing?
Somalia
Bosnia
Rwanda
Egypt
Panama

And Venezuela is starting to heat up.

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#24 Mar 6, 2014
Sublime1 you copied what I wrote but did you even read it?
Putin knew before Sochi what Obama had done, even after he had covered Obama's azz in Syria.
If we're going to play games I'm betting on Putin!
Soros is good but not that good!
*=* Home court means alot *=*

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#25 Mar 6, 2014
My worries @ present are Japan Islands and Philippines.
China's chance to move in!
Puss & Boots won't do noth'n about it - wait and see!
Hillary! Wave your magic wand!
Mrs. Secretary of State wonder bust!
"At this point, "What does it matter!"
LOL

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#26 Mar 6, 2014
*=* And "The Truth" surfaces!!!
A tell all by those involved!

http://rt.com/news/state-department-putin-lis...

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#27 Mar 6, 2014
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Sublime1 you copied what I wrote but did you even read it?
Putin knew before Sochi what Obama had done, even after he had covered Obama's azz in Syria.
If we're going to play games I'm betting on Putin!
Soros is good but not that good!
*=* Home court means alot *=*
I did read it and I also read about the conversation between Nuland and Pyatt at the time it was first leaked. The spoke about who they would like to see lead the Ukraine. BFD.

And actually, I read an article that discussed 3 potential outcomes if it came to military action. First was nuclear holocaust, which isn't going to happen. Send was a conventional war, which isn't going to happen. 3rd was Vietnam and Afghanistan (when the soviets invaded), which while unlikely was the most plausible.

With respect to this scenario, home court is bad ... as history as shown, it's not good to be an invading army under such a scenario. The Ukrainians have shown a willingness to resist Russia with much less support than they would receive under this scenario. With Poland bordering the Ukraine, it would be quite easy to get arms in, as well.

It's best to try gentle persuasion at first, but if not we should certain support an insurrection, until they leave. The Russian signed a treaty in the 90s promising to respect the Ukraine's territory, in exchange for them turning over their nuclear weapons. They have violated this treaty. They need to get out.

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#28 Mar 6, 2014
Maverick 808 wrote:
<quoted text>Somalia
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And Venezuela is starting to heat up.
Yes it is. Check VICE News if you want some good coverage of it

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#29 Mar 6, 2014
WHAT I Don't FREAKIN' get is...

HOW can Russia..Just go and SEIZE the Crimean Peninsula AFTER Khrushchev Gave it to Ukraine in 1954???

AND..WHY Would THEY want to do THAT??

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#30 Mar 6, 2014
Maverick 808 wrote:
<quoted text>Somalia
Bosnia
Rwanda
Egypt
Panama
And Venezuela is starting to heat up.
Grenada
Beirut
Panama
1753 Apt A Martin Luther King Blvd when the no knock warrant was for all residences of Martha's Vineyard.
Anyplace south of the Mason-Dixon Line circa 1860- 1865+.
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#31 Mar 7, 2014
greymouser wrote:
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Grenada
Beirut
Panama
1753 Apt A Martin Luther King Blvd when the no knock warrant was for all residences of Martha's Vineyard.
Anyplace south of the Mason-Dixon Line circa 1860- 1865+.
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The homicide crisis in the black community is overwhelmingly a gun violence problem. Nationwide, when the weapon used could be identified, 82 percent of black homicide victims were shot and killed with guns. Among the victims killed with guns, 77 percent were killed with handguns.

No Knock that,...

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#32 Mar 7, 2014
Big Time wrote:
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The homicide crisis in the black community is overwhelmingly a gun violence problem....
Please relate that comment to the Ukraine incident Big Time???

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#33 Mar 7, 2014
Hoosier Hillbilly wrote:
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Please relate that comment to the Ukraine incident Big Time???


1753 Apt A Martin Luther King Blvd when the no knock warrant was for all residences of Martha's Vineyard.

Hippo Crite Much, AXe him about his first you little Cry Baby

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#34 Mar 7, 2014
Cryptic Messages - considering your Avatar I understand.

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#35 Mar 7, 2014
considering you are stupid, How Cryptic do you need it,...

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#36 Mar 7, 2014
Big Time wrote:
considering you are stupid,
Yep! that's about as cryptic as you can get.
Again considering your Avatar - secret occult

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#37 Mar 7, 2014
Do you see the Mouth on the Pyrimad',


really have to wonder about the intelligence quotient of some Hicks,...

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#38 Mar 8, 2014
Getting a Bit STICKY...if ya ask me!!

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#39 Mar 9, 2014
Big Time wrote:
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1753 Apt A Martin Luther King Blvd when the no knock warrant was for all residences of Martha's Vineyard.
Hippo Crite Much, AXe him about his first you little Cry Baby
The underlying snark may be lost on you.

If your location is accurate, think back to pre-Apartheid times.
Martha's Vineyard is the white gated communities.
MLK Blvd is the non-white slums.

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#40 Mar 10, 2014
greymouser wrote:
<quoted text>
The underlying snark may be lost on you.
If your location is accurate, think back to pre-Apartheid times.
Martha's Vineyard is the white gated communities.
MLK Blvd is the non-white slums.


location is not accurate

So I don't have to think Back I guess,...

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#42 Mar 12, 2014
The momentum is certainly in Russia's direction, Crimea will certainly vote
for Russia, with a gun held to my head I would also, to live to fight another day. But Putin will not back off even after he wins Crimea. He'll keep the troops there and enter west Ukraine to replay his dominance.
Unless we do everything in our power sanction wise Ukraine will be totally Russian controlled- we all know that. All moves in this direction must be made immediately by the US, talking time is over. The only thing a 'bully' understands is being bullied! Reasoning with Russia never has and never will work, tell the dumbazz president that, as a Muslim he should know it but evidently he doesn't, maybe he should ask his Muslim Brotherhood friends how they've managed. LOL
Putin is no worse than Obama, if it's written on paper it doesn't mean anything unless you uphold it, and neither are doing that!
Obama will find out the 'power of the pen' has lost it's -FORCE!- come
November 2014.

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