12 killed in Washington Navy Yard shooting

Sep 16, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Kansas City Star

Over the next four days, some of the nation’s leading criminal justice experts will join law enforcement leaders and community activists here and in St. Louis to discuss ways to loosen the grip crime and gun violence have on the state’s largest urban centers.

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Dr Stinko

Hampton, VA

#1 Sep 16, 2013
My sincerest condolences to the families and friends of the fallen.

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#2 Sep 17, 2013
unfortunately these kinds of stories are becoming an event that occurs it seems every few months.

its a scary world we live in..

my heartfelt condolences to the familes..

“Pompous pontificator”

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#3 Sep 17, 2013
No lesson learned from Fort Hood. Insufficient security and response capability onsite and nearby.

“A *wink* and a smile!!”

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#4 Sep 17, 2013
My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families..

Another senseless act of violence against the innocent..

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#5 Sep 17, 2013
Just one guy. Started out with just a shotgun, acquired the pistol from the guard victim. The rifle acquired from a victim or the base gun safe. What happens when a group of well armed terrorists go after a "gun free zone" place like this? No one can defend themselves. Clinton signed off on disarming soldiers(including officers) and civilian contrators from carrying private arms on bases. But obviously there was no real increase in security measures, to offset depriving the law abiding folks of their 2nd Amendment Rights.

“A *wink* and a smile!!”

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#6 Sep 17, 2013
Naughtyrobot wrote:
Just one guy. Started out with just a shotgun, acquired the pistol from the guard victim. The rifle acquired from a victim or the base gun safe. What happens when a group of well armed terrorists go after a "gun free zone" place like this? No one can defend themselves. Clinton signed off on disarming soldiers(including officers) and civilian contrators from carrying private arms on bases. But obviously there was no real increase in security measures, to offset depriving the law abiding folks of their 2nd Amendment Rights.
His 2nd amendment rights gave him the right to go purchase a gun and kill and injure people.....

You know the bad guys have these rights also....

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#7 Sep 17, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families..
Another senseless act of violence against the innocent..
yep...
Ann Archy

Roselle, IL

#8 Sep 17, 2013
Naughtyrobot wrote:
Just one guy. Started out with just a shotgun, acquired the pistol from the guard victim. The rifle acquired from a victim or the base gun safe. What happens when a group of well armed terrorists go after a "gun free zone" place like this? No one can defend themselves. Clinton signed off on disarming soldiers(including officers) and civilian contrators from carrying private arms on bases. But obviously there was no real increase in security measures, to offset depriving the law abiding folks of their 2nd Amendment Rights.
Prior to Clinton "signing off on disarming the soldiers" had our military men and women been allowed to carry their own weapons on and off base? I bet a lot of veterans would say "no".

Look, if you want America to be a military dictatorship, just say so. I'n sure your small government, tea party friends will see it your way.

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Dump American Eagle

#9 Sep 17, 2013
Ann Archy wrote:
<quoted text>Prior to Clinton "signing off on disarming the soldiers" had our military men and women been allowed to carry their own weapons on and off base? I bet a lot of veterans would say "no".
Look, if you want America to be a military dictatorship, just say so. I'n sure your small government, tea party friends will see it your way.
Its sh1theel libs like you that keep squalling for more gun control. If history taught us(US),or those who bother to read it,is that control of a populace BEGINS with its disarmament.

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#10 Sep 18, 2013
This guy was never prosecuted for two prior shooting incidents. He had a history of mental health issues. How was he not flagged and barred from buying a firearm and also allowed back on base after being let go? The victims should have had the chance to fight back, instead of being disarmed. Gun free zones are victim zones.

“My Bad! Just hold me. ”

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Orion's Belt

#11 Sep 18, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>Its sh1theel libs like you that keep squalling for more gun control. If history taught us(US),or those who bother to read it,is that control of a populace BEGINS with its disarmament.
This was brought to my attention last eve. What do you think of it?
http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/29/obamas-new-...
Obama’s new executive order will kill the 110-year-old Civilian Marksmanship Program
A noted observer

Roselle, IL

#12 Sep 18, 2013
I remember when Ronny Reagan made the Marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon(!) a gun-free zone? Well, he let those kids have guns but NO BULLETS! What was he thinking?
A noted observer

Roselle, IL

#15 Sep 18, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
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From the news reports (and we know how some of that goes) he had a valid pass to get on base. He was never prosecuted for anything so there was no record. Thats why he had clearance. He did seek medical attention for the voices in his head, anger and not being able to sleep but the VA was not allowed by law to give out that info.
And we know the rest of this story.
Fox News seems to want to pass this one off to violent video games. Well, oh, OK....

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OMFUG

#18 Sep 18, 2013
13 died, not 12.

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#19 Sep 18, 2013
I must make a correction. It seems this murderer never even possessed an AR-15 or similar, at all during the incident, despite numerous media reports saying he did. Responding police did have AR-15 type rifles to counter the threat.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/offici...
A noted observer

Roselle, IL

#20 Sep 18, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
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I heard that and I'm not saying that wouldn't influence someone who is ( already) twisted but.....I know so many people who play all those shoot em up games and they don't go kill people.
Thats just an easy out so for the ones who don't want to deal with the real problem....
Yep. But, their thing is to disavow that guns are the problem, at all. Just imaginary guns on a game console- not real guns. Amazing!

But, that works on the 3 million or so people who watch Fox, most of which are over 65 and probably not gamers....
A noted observer

Roselle, IL

#22 Sep 18, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
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First mistake is to watch Fox News, they have been called out so many times for false reporting.
I agree.....
I get all my Fox news from Jon Stewart...who had a great piece last night about how all the cable news outlets got it wrong. They report EVERYTHING they hear in their quest to keep people watching. It's nothing resembling journalism.

The best we can do in any of these situations- especially with these monthly displays of our Second Amendment Wrongs, is to 24-48 hours until actual facts come in.

“Geologist [I'm Climate Change]”

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Nuneaton

#24 Sep 18, 2013
Watched this one with interest, but despite a lot of reportage it turns out that he was not delivering the mail.

Have a nice day: Ag

“"Always Thinking"”

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Greensburg, IN

#25 Sep 19, 2013
FOX News presents:

Three days later, Alexis told police in Newport, R.I., that he believed people he had gotten into an argument with at an airport were following him and laughing at him from another room.\\\ Newport police provided the report, along with their concerns about Alexis’ mental instability, to local Navy officials. The Navy has not commented on what steps were or were not taken.///

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/19/family-r...

PS: I like it!

“"Always Thinking"”

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Greensburg, IN

#26 Sep 19, 2013
This guy was a basket case, so anyone in contact with him would know this, yet he still had 'special
government passes', and was allowed to buy guns,
and walk free on American soil.
How many more are "OUT THERE" just like him?
Scared yet?

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