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We moved into this apt. 2 years ago. There are bedbugs in it !! Had to throw away our new couch and love seat and replace 3 beds. Used dia-earth everywhere. Landlord helped with regular exterminator visits.(Once a month.)

Our lease expires at the end of March.

The apt.s were sold at auction mid-January.
The new landlord came to visit, to tell of the sale and request that rent be sent to him.

The BB problem was brought to his attention then. 01-17-14. He said he would research and see what he could do about it.

Meanwhile, our roommate contacted the new guy and demanded he do something now about the pest control.

He replied with an email, that on the 28th of Jan. was the first he knew about the BB's.

He would "release us" from the lease without penalty if we moved out by Feb 28th, so he could address the bugs extermination without harm to us.

OR we could pay rent as usual AND pay for the BB treatment.

Note: We can not be in the apt. during this treatment and there is no guarantee that our furniture, clothes or household items will be cleaned and not damaged.

I asked Mr. Magnanimous if the offer to let us out of the lease could extend to the end of March.

We need at least that much time to find an affordable place to move to. To save enough for the deposit and first months rent and moving expenses.
He laughed and said no.

Here is the dilemma.
Roommate wants to get rid of the bugs at any cost. She is not on a fixed income like us.
She wants to pay her part of the rent and half the BB treatment.

I say to hell with it , we will move at the end of March, or sooner if we can find a place in that time frame.
I do not plan on paying rent.

I figure if he throws an eviction notice at us, so be it. The men who come to throw us out can load the moving van for us, lol.
After all we will be leaving behind most of our furniture and other items that may carry the BB's to the new place.

What do you think? How would you handle this situation?

Thanks for your input and for taking the time to read all this.

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Oh, SUJ I really feel for you and I don't have an answer, but a short story if I may.

Last year near Christmas time I had a flat tire outside a restaurant at closing time (midnight) 70 miles from my homeless camper. I called my brother and one other man I knew was close enough to the neighborhood he might help. I got no help.

So I walked two miles to a church (glorified nasty homeless shelter) and I snuck into one of the rooms I noticed was vacant. I found fresh linens and covered bed. I left early, but not before I brought my bags and clothes into my brothers room so he could help me with a ride back.

Later that day I was covered head to toe ... under my eyes .. in my ears with welts. I assumed they were spider bites, but when my brother told me I brought bed bugs into his place ... HOLY WHAT the heck!!!

I healed after a week or so without knowing what to do about it. He had to replace his bed and other furnishings. I forget what he told me he also did besides that. He did however, show me what they look like. I had no idea they were that visible. OMG !

Sorry for the short story and best of luck to you. I hope others are able to help ya out, but you know Google or one of them other search sites will help you out too. I've just discovered them and they are fantastic places to get info you need ... NOW. Haha

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PS, I'm not going back to proof. I'm actually quite busy at the moment, but ... when we are this close to the computer, well,... I"m addicted.

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Gnu Guy wrote:
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If you move and take anything with you at all, you will take the bedbugs with you.
Exterminate first, then move. Get bedbug covers for all pillows and mattresses. Use diatomaceous earth but don't get the crap with chemicals. You need "food grade".
My exterminator friend in Nashville told me to use what they do. It's a solution of 10% ammonia and water. It works as long as you can get every surface.
DO NOT HIRE A MOVING COMPANY!
Your liability for spreading your bedbugs to their equipment would cost you thousands, especially if they got into their warehouse.
The amount of blankets one truck carries would cost you about $2000 and if the warehouse got infested...
Eeeeesh...
Thank you very much for your answer!
No way could we afford a moving company.

We only have a couple of small dressers, desk, TV, clothes and dishes to move.
We are getting rid of the beds.
We replaced all our furniture with plastics.
These will be easy to clean with the ammonia solution you suggested and the Dia-earth.
Am taking all our linens and clothes to wash and dry with high heat ( and now, ammonia as you suggested ) Before we get there.
I will also be taking the earth to use generously in the new place before we carry anything inside.

My question was mostly about the landlords moral / legal obligation to eradicate the bugs or give us a break on the rent payments.

What it boils down to is he wants us to pay rent and the extermination fees or he will evict us. He has said he will not renew our lease at the end of March, even if we make all these payments. He said the rent will also be raised a hundred dollars a month at that time.:(

As I said our lease will expire in March anyway.

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AIias - Trish wrote:
Oh, SUJ I really feel for you and I don't have an answer, but a short story if I may.
Last year near Christmas time I had a flat tire outside a restaurant at closing time (midnight) 70 miles from my homeless camper. I called my brother and one other man I knew was close enough to the neighborhood he might help. I got no help.
So I walked two miles to a church (glorified nasty homeless shelter) and I snuck into one of the rooms I noticed was vacant. I found fresh linens and covered bed. I left early, but not before I brought my bags and clothes into my brothers room so he could help me with a ride back.
Later that day I was covered head to toe ... under my eyes .. in my ears with welts. I assumed they were spider bites, but when my brother told me I brought bed bugs into his place ... HOLY WHAT the heck!!!
I healed after a week or so without knowing what to do about it. He had to replace his bed and other furnishings. I forget what he told me he also did besides that. He did however, show me what they look like. I had no idea they were that visible. OMG !
Sorry for the short story and best of luck to you. I hope others are able to help ya out, but you know Google or one of them other search sites will help you out too. I've just discovered them and they are fantastic places to get info you need ... NOW. Haha
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PS, I'm not going back to proof. I'm actually quite busy at the moment, but ... when we are this close to the computer, well,... I"m addicted.
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Thank you sweetheart for taking time to reply.
I know that must have been a horrific experience! Not to mention the embarrassment of sharing the infestation with your brothers household.
I've been in situations very much like yours!
Yet never ever had a pest control problem.( Not even roaches in my homes )
It has been a nightmare. The cost of lost furniture and stress of dealing with the bloodsucking bites had near gave me a breakdown.
Thank you again for sharing your story.(Hugs)

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... lavendere,rosemary and eucalyptus oil or lavender scentd fabric softener sheets will drive them bed bugs away ... a mixture of the three oils works best mix with water or rubbing alcohol in a solution works and is non- toxic ...

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Gnu Guy wrote:
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Not knowing your state, in California, the tenant can withhold rent without fear of retribution until the problem is solved.
I wouldn't renew a lease. I'd find a new place and before moving in, use the Stericlean (ammonia solution) on everything you're taking.
If you're in Ohio, I would also keep a litter box or something big and deep to keep diatomaceous earth in and everyone MUST wipe their shoes in there before entering the home.
That will kill the eggs and any hitchhikers who may have come home with you.
I HATE bedbugs. I had my own run in with them a coupla years ago. I'd burn my house down and start over if I get them again...
Thank you Thank you!
I think it's a great idea about the box of dirt. I will certainly do that.
Bless you for your help. And I know what you mean about burning the place down.
Thanking goodness I never had this problem in a place I owned! Whew!
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call the department of health
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his expecting you to pay for extermination sounds illegal, the former owner has an obligation to inform buyer of any problems he is aware of

call a lawyer

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Your welcome dear one.

Stop paying rent ,... write out detailed letter (like a lawyer would if you're able). It will cost them more to get rid of you and the responsibility (morally speaking) does also fall upon him, if only ever so slightly.

Glad to hear you are moving and that Gnu Guy really knew what he was talking about.

I'm sure you will rest easier now that you feel a bit less helpless. That feeling is the pits on top of all the other aggravations you will endure.

Peace Out

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You people out there ... Don't go hatin' Peyton. It wasn't all his fault and Ms SUJ here hasn't ever been unkind to any of us that I've ever noticed.
Save your silent ill wishes and PO already now. We don't know this Gnu Guy either and your ridiculous icons don't fit.

Don't you get it ... when the icons are completely wrong we know the one you are judging deserves a second glance and benefit of or lack of doubt.

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Keep it reeeeel kids and go fishing if you are able.

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Gnu Guy wrote:
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I had it in my truck. I'm a household goods carrier. They call us bedbuggers and I swear until I got bedbugs I thought they were just some myth.
I hate that smell when you crush them.
Yikes.

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OK.
Landlord was pounding on the door, and we didn't answer it.
Talked to roommate and she has changed her mind too.
( Must be all that positive energy you all are sending here !)
She has already got in touch with a new apt. building and is arranging for us to rent there at the same price we pay here.

A nod of thanks to GMGMIKE and LOST IN MISSISSIPPI for your helpful reply's too.

I knew I could count on the Topix folks to help me through this.
You all are the best-est folks on earth!

Thank you all again, I will put all your advices to work and keep you appraised as the situation unfolds.
(HUGS!!)

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I wouldn't move shyte until you have killed all of them.

That is my wife's worse nightmare. Whenever we stay at a hotel she worries about it.

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I wouldn't move shyte until you have killed all of them.
That is my wife's worse nightmare. Whenever we stay at a hotel she worries about it.
I bring a sleeping bag. Not just for the bed bugs but all the other scum everywhere.
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Rent a dozen Guinea hens and leave them in the apartment for a week.

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Gnu Guy wrote:
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Try a black light. You'll never sleep on another hotel comforter ;)
I always take those off and throw them on the floor. I don't need a black light to know how filthy those things are.

I even bring my own towels.
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I can't believe you asked for help in this matter..Move out!!! What you spend in lawyer fees alone isn't worth it. Leave sorry that is a no brainer,
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LOST IN MISSISSIPPI wrote:
his expecting you to pay for extermination sounds illegal, the former owner has an obligation to inform buyer of any problems he is aware of
call a lawyer
Not always true! The place was sold at auction! The first question is what kind of auction?

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new landlord all prevailing contracts are null and void

marshals don't load vans your belongings go to the curb

bed bugs are transported they don't migrate ....

FINALLY: most states have adopted some form of a uniform landlord tenant law....you need to find out if,(and I think it may be), the failure to rid your apartment of these bed bugs is a denial of essential services

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