Is Legalized Marijuana Working ?

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#1 Mar 6, 2014
here are some opinions

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#2 Mar 6, 2014
Some journalists are reporting many residents canít afford the full retail price, and donít want to join a registry to get a medical marijuana card. This is keeping the black market alive and thriving.

that does not take into consideration state costs. Monitoring grow operations, retail stores and cracking down on the black market are all expensive services. In contrast, monitoring tobacco retail requires no interference in the growing, harvesting, storing and wholesale of the product.

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Izzs et werken.. hail yeah doode.....

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#4 Mar 6, 2014
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#5 Mar 6, 2014
perhaps you can specify why instead of yahooing

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#6 Mar 6, 2014
tallyho wrote:
perhaps you can specify why instead of yahooing
Actually I have little experience with the "evil" weed, but it's easy to see where any governmental regulations would involve considerable additional costs. Building regulatory fiefdoms for "20-and-outers" seems to be our specialty.

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#7 Mar 6, 2014
good point .... just seems to me that it will increase the black market
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#9 Mar 7, 2014
People would do better to have pot decriminalized as opposed to legalized.
Street dealers in Washington have already been dropping their prices. Washington will tax themselves out of business before they get started.
Washington has a 25% tax at 3 stages, at Growing, at packaging and at selling. A 75% tax! Then add to that the permit necessary for each of those stages. Unless the state puts some identifying marker in the pot, which wouldn't surprise me, cops won't know if it were purchased at a state run store or a street dealer. Like Dave says, "It is too early to tell."
Washington just issued its first grow permit a couple days ago.

If you like your street dealer, you can keep your street dealer.

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#10 Mar 7, 2014
Independent wrote:
If you like your street dealer, you can keep your street dealer.
Can I have a tax-payer subsidy if I sign on for an Obamadealer?
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#12 Mar 7, 2014
this just in wrote:
Ted Cruz is calling for drug testing medical marijuana recipients.
If true, that is just plain stupid. What do they expect to find? THC in their systems?

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#14 Mar 8, 2014
If it don't work, it will be because topbods don't want it to work. It's been working out fine in Amsterdam for years and years.

Generic brands? yeah, what's with the raspberry leaf concoction shyte. Why mess with it, why not just grow it as it wants to grow

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#15 Mar 8, 2014
Velvet MJK wrote:
If it don't work, it will be because topbods don't want it to work. It's been working out fine in Amsterdam for years and years.
Generic brands? yeah, what's with the raspberry leaf concoction shyte. Why mess with it, why not just grow it as it wants to grow
It's not really legal in the Netherlands, just tolerated when it comes to small amounts. You can actually be arrested for possession. it is also completely illegal and not tolerated for tourists to indulge ( many ignore the tourist ban though).
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#17 Mar 8, 2014
In 1975 the Ravin vs. Alaska decision allowed a person to possess personal amounts of marijuana without fear of prosecution. No increase in use, crime, or danger to the public was ever found in the 15 years this case was upheld. It was only in 1990 when their courts ( under much federal pressure) determined the ruling in the case was not Constitutional. It wasn't totally legal but it still provides some historical insight.
There may be some initial problems from legalization. Not because of pot itself , but more from the fact that it will have a novelty to it and some people may just recklessly consume without controlling themselves. In a short amount of time it will subside though as people learn. This is meant to say more about the dangers of prohibition than it is about legalizing marijuana.
Police in Colorado are learning to spot High driving and adapting patrolling to combat it. It seem's to be going well. By legalizing it, I fell the public and the police actually have more power and tools available to regulate irresponsible and reckless use and distribution. It also allows for taxes to be collected from it that in turn goes to enforcement of the regulations. That doesn't happen with complete prohibition. It can generate tax money to help combat underage sales and road enforcement.
Is legalized marijuana working? Too vague question to really answer. Working how? What does "working" mean in this context. What goal is it to work for? One thing I do know and can answer is that Marijuana prohibition has never worked. It has been and always will be a complete failure of the legal system. Unless you consider putting people in jail or giving them a criminal record while doing nothing to reducing use, availability, or negative consequences on society as success.

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#18 Mar 8, 2014
tallyho wrote:
good point .... just seems to me that it will increase the black market
How could the black market for marijuana get any bigger? There is huge customer demand for it across the nation and only a black market for it. One that supplies it quite well I might add. As is pretty common now, many regular users will probably choose to grow their own when they find legally available marijuana too expensive. I might also add that the price might actually stay the same in the face of heavy taxation. As it stands there is a hidden black market tax so to speak to offset the risks involved with dealing in it. If it were to be legalized the added costs to justify the risks that goes along with it will likely just be turned into state collected tax. Also it would be in the best interest for the legal market to help law enforcement stop any black market sales, as the black market would be hurting their profits and sales. The black market would the enemy of the legal market.

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#19 Mar 8, 2014
seems to me I have a legal right to possess pot .. then i can get it cheaper from the street than store ...

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#20 Mar 8, 2014
tallyho wrote:
seems to me I have a legal right to possess pot .. then i can get it cheaper from the street than store ...
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#22 Mar 8, 2014
Although its only legal for medical use, the state of Mi.has raked in about $11 million a year in extra revenue for the past 3 years, $4 million goes back into overseeing the program, leaving the state with a very handsome profit of $7 million a year, they have stock piled $23 and a half million since the law was implemented, seems to be working out pretty nice for the state, not so much for the big drug company pill pushers, seems the legal prescribing and sales for pain pills and other legal narcotics has leveled off and in some areas declined.

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