Are people taking advantage of welfare?

Created by realblogger on Dec 4, 2013

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“I'll just kick me down a wall,”

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And walk outa here!

#1 Dec 4, 2013
Does a bear shit in the woods?
Another thought

Wilmington, OH

#3 Dec 4, 2013
A thought wrote:
Raising the minimum wage would help a lot! Imagine if Walmart and McDonalds workers were making making a minimum wage that had kept pace with inflation! We the people wouldn't be paying taxes to supplement the labor costs of two of the largest employers in the US. Walmart is #1, BTW.
Why don't you go work for Walmart then instead of sitting on your ass all day making the rest of us work for your living? Novel idea, yes?

“If you're happy & you know it”

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#5 Dec 4, 2013
Another thought.... McDonalds is a job for beginners and not meant to be a career.

Another thought.... welfare pays too good for most people who are on it to want to get off it. I can't tell you how many times I've heard my sister in law say if I get a job then I'll lose my foodstamps, they'll cut my check, etc... never mind trying to pay your own way. That's for people with pride and morals.

“WE BECOME WHAT WE THINK ABOUT.”

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#6 Dec 4, 2013
ShadyBits wrote:
Another thought.... McDonalds is a job for beginners and not meant to be a career.
Another thought.... welfare pays too good for most people who are on it to want to get off it. I can't tell you how many times I've heard my sister in law say if I get a job then I'll lose my foodstamps, they'll cut my check, etc... never mind trying to pay your own way. That's for people with pride and morals.
I bet if they cut her welfare check she would find a job quick. Then again, maybe I'm dreaming.
Freeloaders never have the joy of knowing "I am worthy BECAUSE I earned it." When the system of handouts fails they are SOL.

“Right click Left click Yay!”

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Nehwon

#7 Dec 4, 2013
With any system, there will be people who will find a way to exploit the holes.

So the questions you have to ask -
Will you help the less fortunate at the risk it might be exploited by a few?

Or eliminate programs to help the less fortunate hoping you don't become one?

“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Dec 4, 2013
There has never been a program run by the government that was not overrun by corruption or waste.

“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Dec 4, 2013
A thought wrote:
<quoted text>HH may be on to something. Private enterprise- by design- is just supposed to get things done as cheaply and easily as possible. If there's a few billion left over at the end of the year, well, OK buy some yachts. Ya did good and all by yourself!
If only Steve Jobs had wised up and simply given away all those iPads, iPhones and iPods it would have been so much better.

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Rockin' USA ;)

#12 Dec 4, 2013
ShadyBits wrote:
Another thought.... McDonalds is a job for beginners and not meant to be a career.
Another thought.... welfare pays too good for most people who are on it to want to get off it. I can't tell you how many times I've heard my sister in law say if I get a job then I'll lose my foodstamps, they'll cut my check, etc... never mind trying to pay your own way. That's for people with pride and morals.
OH BITE ME!! Those on Unemployment WORKED for that!! Busted their butts for the Company Abd they got TOSSED aside...AND their TAXES helped support everyone else.. Now it's time for their share..NEVER SAY NEVER..it could happen to any one of else.. Sheesh!!

“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

Indianapolis, IN

#14 Dec 4, 2013
A thought wrote:
<quoted text>Like the free gas you reported on earlier? tee hee...
I did what?

“If you're happy & you know it”

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#15 Dec 4, 2013
Colorado Chick wrote:
<quoted text> OH BITE ME!! Those on Unemployment WORKED for that!! Busted their butts for the Company Abd they got TOSSED aside...AND their TAXES helped support everyone else.. Now it's time for their share..NEVER SAY NEVER..it could happen to any one of else.. Sheesh!!
Your reading comprehension is off. I never mentioned unemployment.

“If you're happy & you know it”

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#16 Dec 4, 2013
Saint Edward wrote:
<quoted text>
I bet if they cut her welfare check she would find a job quick. Then again, maybe I'm dreaming.
Freeloaders never have the joy of knowing "I am worthy BECAUSE I earned it." When the system of handouts fails they are SOL.
She's got a perfectly normal kid on disability and she's popping out another now that the one is in school. Gotta have a reason to stay home and not lose benefits. She says she's a stay at home mom. Says I'm jealous that I don't have what she has. Don't seem to understand I don't want to be on welfare and pop out babies to support me. I might not like my job but at least it pays my bills and I don't have to live off the hard work of others.

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#17 Dec 4, 2013
Wallstreet Journal:

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/08/19/wor...

Lets see, the top number is average welfare benefit (food, housing insurance, etc) and the bottom number is an "equivalent pretax wage".

In my state welfare recipients average $10,000 more a year than I earn yet I still get by without collecting. You think someone getting an average of $40,000 year free is going to give that up?

State

Total Potential Welfare Benefit

Equivalent Pretax Wage

Alabama
$26,638
$23,310

Alaska
$29,275
$26,400

Arizona
$21,364
$15,320

Arkansas
$17,423
$12,230

California
$35,287
$37,160

Colorado
$20,750
$14,750

Connecticut
$38,761
$44,370

Delaware
$30,375
$29,220

Dist. of Columbia
$43,099
$50,820

Florida
$18,121
$12,600

Georgia
$19,797
$14,060

Hawaii
$49,175
$60,590

Idaho
$17,766
$11,150

Illinois
$19,442
$13,580

Indiana
$26,891
$22,900

Iowa
$20,101
$14,200

Kansas
$29,396
$26,490

Kentucky
$18,763
$13,350

Louisiana
$26,538
$22,250

Maine
$19,871
$13,920

Maryland
$35,672
$38,160

Massachusetts
$42,515
$50,540

Michigan
$28,872
$26,430

Minnesota
$31,603
$29,350

Mississippi
$16,984
$11,830

Missouri
$26,837
$22,800

Montana
$29,123
$26,930

Nebraska
$20,798
$14,420

Nevada
$31,409
$29,820

New Hampshire
$37,160
$39,750

New Jersey
$38,728
$43,450

New Mexico
$30,435
$27,900

New York
$38,004
$43,700

North Carolina
$28,142
$25,760

North Dakota
$30,681
$28,830

Ohio
$28,723
$26,200

Oklahoma
$26,784
$22,480

Oregon
$31,674
$34,300

Pennsylvania
$29,817
$28,670

Rhode Island
$38,632
$43,330

South Carolina
$26,536
$21,910

South Dakota
$29,439
$26,610

Tennessee
$17,413
$12,120

Texas
$18,037
$12,550

Utah
$19,612
$13,950

Vermont
$37,705
$42,350

Virginia
$20,884
$14,870

Washington
$30,816
$28,840

West Virginia
$27,727
$24,900

Wisconsin
$21,483
$14,890

Wyoming
$33,119
$32,620

Source: Cato Institute

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#18 Dec 4, 2013
Too many able bodied people making a career out of the welfare program and passing values down to their children.
And the government is as much to blame for making it so easy to play the system.

“If you're happy & you know it”

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Since: Feb 13

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#20 Dec 4, 2013
A solution wrote:
<quoted text>DUDE! You need a better job!
What's your point? I'm not on welfare nor do I receive government services. I do just fine. Granted I'm not doing as fine as those living on welfare...at least I'm not a leach off society. If I can make it on less, so can so many other people.
Frosty

Arlington, TX

#23 Dec 4, 2013
Get educated, go to college, graduate. Plenty of programs available. Numerous on-line tech or degrees. Day, night and evenings. For all financial needs. Wish these were available when I went to college and had to actually show up in person. Yes, I also worked while attending college.

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#24 Dec 4, 2013
In all my years I have only met one person who would NOT take money if you handed it to him.

He also would not pick money up off the ground because it wasn't his.

But lazy people will grab and run.

Since: Feb 09

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#25 Dec 5, 2013
yes of course
that and a lot of other programs..

I see these people every day, most are a bunch of lazy bums..

IMO of course.
lol
realblogger

North Manchester, IN

#26 Dec 5, 2013
12/5/2013
Summary:
28 votes total, 23 yeses,(82%); 5 nos,(17%)
:: 1% margin of error ::

The posts represent (IMO) a cross-section of typical Americans, considering those on welfare didn't participate 'as much'.
Some suggestions made:
#raise minimum wage - It's always been my opinion wages {same as SS} should be based on the 'inflation rate'. When =things= cost more you should automatically get more. If the minimum wage was increased consumers would be paying more for many products, but it would be based on consumption and not welfare dollars, only those that benefited would pay.
#privatize welfare - the following quote is 100% correct.
Uh Clem wrote:
There has never been a program run by the government that was not overrun by corruption or waste.
If this government system was turned over to private enterprise it would run much more efficiently.
# completely change the Welfare system - welfare should be like 'unemployment' it only runs for _so long_, then you must either reapply are find work.
Welfare recipients must prove disabilities and any other reasons for getting government assistance.
[[ All welfare recipients should be drug tested ]]
Colorado Chick wrote:
<quoted text> OH BITE ME!! Those on Unemployment WORKED for that!! Sheesh!!
She does get confused sometimes??? But ShadyBits came to the rescue;
ShadyBits wrote:
<quoted text>Your reading comprehension is off. I never mentioned unemployment.
(IMO) prison sentences should be much more active in welfare fraud or exploiting the system. Media coverage should be mandatory.
realblogger

North Manchester, IN

#27 Dec 5, 2013
12/5/2013
Summary:
28 votes total, 23 yeses,(82%); 5 nos,(17%)
:: 1% margin of error ::

The posts represent (IMO) a cross-section of typical Americans, considering those on welfare didn't participate 'as much'.
Some suggestions made:
#raise minimum wage - It's always been my opinion wages {same as SS} should be based on the 'inflation rate'. When =things= cost more you should automatically get more. If the minimum wage was increased consumers would be paying more for many products, but it would be based on consumption and not welfare dollars, only those that benefited would pay.
#privatize welfare - the following quote is 100% correct.
Uh Clem wrote:
There has never been a program run by the government that was not overrun by corruption or waste.
If this government system was turned over to private enterprise it would run much more efficiently.
# completely change the Welfare system - welfare should be like 'unemployment' it only runs for _so long_, then you must either reapply are find work.
Welfare recipients must prove disabilities and any other reasons for getting government assistance.
[[ All welfare recipients should be drug tested ]]
Colorado Chick wrote:
<quoted text> OH BITE ME!! Those on Unemployment WORKED for that!! Sheesh!!
She does get confused sometimes??? But ShadyBits came to the rescue;
ShadyBits wrote:
<quoted text>Your reading comprehension is off. I never mentioned unemployment.
(IMO) prison sentences should be much more active in welfare fraud or exploiting the system. Media coverage should be mandatory.
realblogger

North Manchester, IN

#28 Dec 5, 2013
Explanation:
Topix didn't post it when I returned to the forum so I reposted it.
It's worth reading 'twice' anyhow! LOL

PS: I figured I forgot to write the 4 digit number in?

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