Cops: Jehovah's Witnesses Faced Bullet Barrage

Oct 1, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Smoking Gun

OCTOBER 1--Incensed that two Jehovah's Witnesses approached him in the front yard of his home, an Arkansas man allegedly had his wife retrieve his 9mm handgun from the residence and then fired 19 rounds at the pair's vehicle, police report.

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#245 Oct 8, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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Oh but there are teachers here today like back then, except the teachers today know more and reveal more. These are the anointed ones-- the ones who will be changed in the twinkling of an eye during the tribulation. Part of the little flock.
Aren't you up to date with the "new light"? The anointed ones are NOT the "teachers" of the JWs. The GB appointed themselves only as the Faithful and Discreet Slave who dispenses "truth" (cough, cough) to the JWs. The "anointed" don't have any part in it. Actually, they never did, but now it's official.

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#246 Oct 8, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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Ok Maraville, mixed media and whomever thinks that by asking for the HS to reveal deep hidden truths from Gods word to you all--all of you do this and answer these two simple questions----- Who or what is the 7 headed beast and the two horned beast?( rev 13)
There are various "truths" about these scriptures. JWs don't have it sewn up.
Commentator Albert Barnes saw the beast from the sea as the Roman Empire:
"The reference here is to Rome, or the one Roman power, contemplated as made up of ten subordinate kingdoms, and therefore subsequently to the invasion of the Northern hordes, and to the time when the Papacy was about to rise....Thus in Daniel (vii. 2-7) the lion is introduced as the symbol of the Babylonian power; the bear, as the symbol of the Medo-Persian; the leopard, as the symbol of the Macedonian; and a nondescript animal, fierce, cruel, and mighty, with two horns, as the symbol of the Roman. See Notes on that passage. In John there is one animal representing the Roman power, as if it were made up of all these: a leopard with the feet of a bear, and the mouth of a lion,...and with the general description of a fierce monster....the beast here represents the Roman power, as now broken up into the ten dominations which sprung up (see notes on Daniel as above) from the one original Roman power, and that became henceforward the supporters of the Papacy, and, therefore, properly represented here as having ten diadems. And upon his heads the name of blasphemy. That is, the whole power was blasphemous in its claims and pretensions." - Notes on the New Testament by Albert Barnes, 1884-1885
"This also designates the church of Rome. Fire coming down from heaven, seems to have reference to their excommunications, which were dreaded like fire from heaven." - A History of the Work of Redemption by Jonathan Edwards, 1703-1758

"Those who think the first beast signifies Rome pagan by this second beast would understand Rome papal, which promotes idolatry and tyranny, but in a more soft and lamb-like manner: those that understand the first beast of the secular power of the papacy take the second to intend its spiritual and ecclesiastical powers, which act under the disguise of religion and charity to the souls of men." - Commentary on the Whole Bible by Matthew Henry, 1721

"Here, then, are the two Beasts. The one is the Empire. The other, with the two horns, is the Papacy." - "Second Preface to the Revelation of St. John" in Works VI:484 by Martin Luther, c. 1540, translated by Dr. F. N. Lee
http://beastsofrevelation.com/

Check it out. Their interpretations are just as valid as yours.
debbie

Newnan, GA

#247 Oct 8, 2013
maybe they need some rattlesnakes to convince people

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#248 Oct 8, 2013
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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There are various "truths" about these scriptures. JWs don't have it sewn up.
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http://beastsofrevelation.com/
Check it out. Their interpretations are just as valid as yours.
The 7 heads are the 7 world powers of all time--with 10 horns( kingdoms) a place where (govt) kingdoms gather. the united nations. an 8th king in itself. the one that was( league of nations) yet is not( done away with after ww2)( death stroke) and is still-united nations.
Two horned beast-the final world power(#7)two kingdoms working together( Eagle-Lion) to exercise all authority of the first beast. cannot buy or sell ( sanctions) unless one receives the mark.---the JW teachers have it right.

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#249 Oct 8, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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The 7 heads are the 7 world powers of all time--with 10 horns( kingdoms) a place where (govt) kingdoms gather. the united nations. an 8th king in itself. the one that was( league of nations) yet is not( done away with after ww2)( death stroke) and is still-united nations.
Two horned beast-the final world power(#7)two kingdoms working together( Eagle-Lion) to exercise all authority of the first beast. cannot buy or sell ( sanctions) unless one receives the mark.---the JW teachers have it right.
who's the king of the north now? do tell seems the stupid prophets stuffed that one up as usual.

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#250 Oct 8, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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The 7 heads are the 7 world powers of all time--with 10 horns( kingdoms) a place where (govt) kingdoms gather. the united nations. an 8th king in itself. the one that was( league of nations) yet is not( done away with after ww2)( death stroke) and is still-united nations.
Two horned beast-the final world power(#7)two kingdoms working together( Eagle-Lion) to exercise all authority of the first beast. cannot buy or sell ( sanctions) unless one receives the mark.---the JW teachers have it right.
You believe they have it right. That does not MAKE it right. Other interpretations are just as valid (if not more so) as yours. In fact, the interpretations that relate to the Roman Empire at the time that Revelation was written are probably much closer to the actual meaning than the one the JWs created.

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#251 Oct 8, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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Oh but there are teachers here today like back then, except the teachers today know more and reveal more. These are the anointed ones-- the ones who will be changed in the twinkling of an eye during the tribulation. Part of the little flock.
well those teachers speak in Gods name and make stupid predictions that have made it hard for the flock, and of course no apology, just accept it or else, get out lose your family along the way they don't care, the emotional black mail is a wicked teaching.

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#252 Oct 8, 2013
array wrote:
<quoted text>well those teachers speak in Gods name and make stupid predictions that have made it hard for the flock, and of course no apology, just accept it or else, get out lose your family along the way they don't care, the emotional black mail is a wicked teaching.
Jesus taught ones own family members would be their enemies( spiritual)A true JW chooses with their own free will to listen to the JW teachers--they are the only teachers I have found that teach Jesus' truths. The world hated Jesus' truths back then enough to murder Jesus, apostles, Christians) they were going house to house with the good news of Gods kingdom, and truths exposing wickedness.

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#253 Oct 8, 2013
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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You believe they have it right. That does not MAKE it right. Other interpretations are just as valid (if not more so) as yours. In fact, the interpretations that relate to the Roman Empire at the time that Revelation was written are probably much closer to the actual meaning than the one the JWs created.
I believe the JW teachers are right and revelation-Daniel is passing before the worlds eyes now, Its just as Jesus taught--As in the days of Noah, the world took no note( of the prophecys passing before their eyes) that means time is very short and few have entered the ark-persay)Jesus taught few would find the road that leads to life( eternal)

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#255 Oct 8, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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trying to discern deep hidden truths for oneself is the cause of division. Gods will is for one to be submissive to teachers-Hebrews 13:17-- this means to listen to them and apply what they teach---- but with thousands to choose from the only way one can find Jesus' teachers is to learn all of Jesus' truths, apply Jesus' truths and compare Jesus' truths to what ones teachers are teaching.
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. There in lies your problem... God says for teaching.. reproving and setting things straight.. There is no hidden mystery..nor anything that you can not find with faith in God and his son..Where does it say you need teachers?? in first John 1:8-10 it says that we must love our fellowman in order to have light.. And he that does not.. is in the darkness.

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#256 Oct 8, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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I believe the JW teachers are right and revelation-Daniel is passing before the worlds eyes now, Its just as Jesus taught--As in the days of Noah, the world took no note( of the prophecys passing before their eyes) that means time is very short and few have entered the ark-persay)Jesus taught few would find the road that leads to life( eternal)
Obviously, you believe the JW teachers (leaders, oppressors, rulers) are right, but, then again, Revelation/Daniel has been thought to be passing before the world's eyes multiple times in the past.

I would suggest that you do not neglect saving for retirement...you'll need it.

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#257 Oct 8, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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I believe the JW teachers are right and revelation-Daniel is passing before the worlds eyes now, Its just as Jesus taught--As in the days of Noah, the world took no note( of the prophecys passing before their eyes) that means time is very short and few have entered the ark-persay)Jesus taught few would find the road that leads to life( eternal)
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. I believe that God is drawing people to him as we speak... and that people are a lot more aware of what's happening around them then you know.. I am aware that many people that have never been JW's are speaking out about God and his son. more freely then ever before.
debbie

Newnan, GA

#258 Oct 9, 2013
yes they work well .they will make a believer outta you instantly

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#259 Oct 9, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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Jesus taught ones own family members would be their enemies( spiritual)A true JW chooses with their own free will to listen to the JW teachers--they are the only teachers I have found that teach Jesus' truths. The world hated Jesus' truths back then enough to murder Jesus, apostles, Christians) they were going house to house with the good news of Gods kingdom, and truths exposing wickedness.
so because my family are not JW and they treat me well and do not interfer with my personal discisions then they are enemies are they.

what about kids being baptised at 9, 10, 11 b and in the bloom of youth make mistakes and get DF, they are shunned, so these kids are also ememies are they.

JW have this hirachal system within that is so judgmental, people are judged on what they do how many hours the do, missing meetings one is classified as weak, and the DEC WT study article brings out about being aware of those weak ones within, that would also be YOU for being here, in the GB eyes you are a borderline apostate, you are associating with apostates exJW, DF DA ones, what does that make you.

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Homefries

#260 Oct 9, 2013
Religion is a personal matter......period.

You can say what you want to whom you want, but once you start to judge others then you are less than holy.

Have a nice day!!!!!
beatlesinthebog

Auckland, New Zealand

#261 Oct 9, 2013
DILF wrote:
Religion is a personal matter......period.
You can say what you want to whom you want, but once you start to judge others then you are less than holy.
Have a nice day!!!!!
So what reasons would you opine why those of a different ilk would try to ram their version down others throats...or even kill them for the same,but different?

“My Bad! Just hold me. ”

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Orion's Belt

#262 Oct 9, 2013
Capping converts!

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Homefries

#263 Oct 9, 2013
beatlesinthebog wrote:
<quoted text>So what reasons would you opine why those of a different ilk would try to ram their version down others throats...or even kill them for the same,but different?
Control.
Some people feel the need to "be above" others.
Ironically they will be the ones "taking the elevator down" when the end comes......

8-)

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#265 Oct 9, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
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Down where ?
. Probably that Queenly throne you've raised yourself up to...

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Homefries

#266 Oct 9, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
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Down where ?
The lower lobby.

8-)

Praise the lord!!!

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