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#1 Dec 15, 2012
In view of the school massacres around the world, I've seen and heard a number of things that are just in bad taste.

First, I find it bad to use this time to fight for gun control. That just shows that the kids mean nothing, just a bunch of liberals exploiting the tragedy to get what they want.

Second, defending guns during this time is also tasteless.

Third, some of the store promotions tend to have unfortunate timing. If you were in certain Walmart stores, they had a promotion where a "master chef" was trying to sell a cutlery set. It is a similar deal to the Ginsu Knives which sold in the 80's, but for $40 (not $19.95 like on the RonCo commercials). But even if you don't buy, if you stand around and listen to the pitch and are at least 21 years of age, they give you a free paring knife. On the day of the Connecticut Massacre, there was a knife massacre near Beijing, also in a school, and still a substantial death toll. So you arm people with knives the day after a knife or machete massacre. That would be about like handing on free BB guns to Connecticut residents.
60s chic

Allentown, PA

#2 Dec 15, 2012
I was listening to Robbie Parker earlier this evening on the news with tears in my eyes. He is the father of one of the victims - emilie Parker - age 6. He gave a heart wrenching account of what he is having to endure, but mostly spoke of his beloved daughter. Mr. Parker grieves along with the other parents of the victims and had sympathy even for Adam Lanza's family. He also stated that something must be done about having access to firearms. Even Mr. Parker thought it was necessary to point that out.

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#3 Dec 15, 2012
Well, we don't need more gun control, just the laws we have enforced. China doesn't allow guns, yet 22 kids got hacked to death there on the same day. So what about the access to knives, machetes, axes, hammers, shovels, poison, bricks...?

Nobody's child is worth more than anyone else's.To take your emotions and loss use them as an excuse to take rights from others is just wrong. Banning guns won't bring children back nor prevent deaths from those determined to kill. It is just a feel good measure that amounts to becoming an aggressor and controlling others. No parent should exploit their child's memory to get to shove any partisan ideas on others. The worst school shooting was in the 40's, but everyone still had enough brains to not give into knee-jerk Communist pressure to destroy our 2nd Amendment right. If you hate the 2nd Amendment, leave our nation, don't take it from us.

Hey, want a gun when citizens cannot carry? The message that sends is to blitz attack a police officer and take their gun. Timothy McVeigh didn't even use a gun. In China, machete rampages are common. At least gun deaths are quicker and less painful than getting hacked to death.

Things like this happen from time to time. It is high time to get over it and move on. 9/11 was misused as a way to take our freedoms. Stuff like that happens, and we need to stop emotionalizing it and making BFDs out of them. They happen, that is life, grow up. Don't get calloused either, but never make decisions based on emotions.
60s chic

Allentown, PA

#4 Dec 15, 2012
Obviously I realize that there are other ways to kill someone without having to use a gun. A gun gives the opportunist a broader range. He/she can kill more people in a much shorter time. Loaded guns can go off unexpectedly by a careless owner. It's happened many times before. Having a small handgun in your home for protection I somewhat understand, although there are many cases where it fell into the wrong hands because of careless owners. I'm talking about the semi-automatics and assault weapons that people like Adam have had access to. Even with stricter laws, I also realize that wherever money can be made, firearms will be available to anyone. That's the disturbing part. Money always rules. As for being grown up, that's not what this is about. It's about having compassion for others and keeping ourselves and others just a bit safer, if that's at all possible. I can't imagine what the parents are going through. You say it's in bad taste to bring up gun control at a time like this; well so is saying that "stuff like this happens and we need to stop emotionalizing it." I don't think the parents of the victims could even relate to that considering they just lost a child who was shot more than once - some of the victims being shot numerous times. Don't worry though, I doubt the government is going to take guns away from American citizens. Sad to say but there'll probably will be more of these tragedies in our future. Whether we like it or not, guns are here to stay.
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#5 Dec 15, 2012
What is in bad taste is the platform any activist will use right now to further their agenda..
My heart breaks for all the parents/familes whose lives have changed forever.. I will not state my stand re guns, I will however say, when evil strikes in the heart of a madman, tragedy will happen. His choice of weapon is moot...

Would be nice to see ALL of America put down their agendas for just a sec, stand as one Nation and support those who have suffered loss.
60s chic

Allentown, PA

#6 Dec 15, 2012
reebie wrote:
What is in bad taste is the platform any activist will use right now to further their agenda..
My heart breaks for all the parents/familes whose lives have changed forever.. I will not state my stand re guns, I will however say, when evil strikes in the heart of a madman, tragedy will happen. His choice of weapon is moot...
Would be nice to see ALL of America put down their agendas for just a sec, stand as one Nation and support those who have suffered loss.
You apparently missed hearing the grief stricken Mr. Parker on the news earlier this evening. He is the father of 6 year old victim Emilie Parker. In his brief interview with reporters, he also mentioned about stricter laws concerning firearms. Anyone who is discussing this issue is obviously is saddened and horrified by what happened. How could anyone not be? The way in which these innocent small children and adults died cannot be ignored. This IS the way many people show their support because their hearts are broken over what happened to these victims. The parents and families of the victims are probably too grief stricken right now to fully absorb everything. In the coming weeks and months ahead, they'll also experience anger and frustration over what has happened, and I'll bet some of them will be getting on that "platform" too.
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#7 Dec 15, 2012
60s chic wrote:
<quoted text>
You apparently missed hearing the grief stricken Mr. Parker on the news earlier this evening. He is the father of 6 year old victim Emilie Parker. In his brief interview with reporters, he also mentioned about stricter laws concerning firearms. Anyone who is discussing this issue is obviously is saddened and horrified by what happened. How could anyone not be? The way in which these innocent small children and adults died cannot be ignored. This IS the way many people show their support because their hearts are broken over what happened to these victims. The parents and families of the victims are probably too grief stricken right now to fully absorb everything. In the coming weeks and months ahead, they'll also experience anger and frustration over what has happened, and I'll bet some of them will be getting on that "platform" too.
All due respect..I have been keeping up with this tragedy for 24 hrs plus, along with the rest of the nation. My comment was not in reference or regard to grief stricken parents/family members.

The debate on gun control will never be resolved. One of two things will occur, we will continue to be allowed the priveledge of our 2nd ammendment rights or we will not be.
I will say again, When evil strikes in the heart of a madman, tradgedy will occur. His weapon of choice is moot.

I will also clairify my point, it is Activists,on both sides, who need to come down from their platforms.. for a time, and embrace the grief our nation has faced. Now is not the time to argue agenda, maybe tomorrow, or next week...now is the time to be one nation . In a perfect world..........
The Good Son

Eugene, OR

#8 Dec 16, 2012
reebie wrote:
<quoted text>
I will say again, When evil strikes in the heart of a madman, tradgedy will occur. His weapon of choice is moot.
When I read this note of yours, I thought of this:

(Please note in the following narrative, only one round was fired.)

"The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, four other adults and the bomber himself; at least 58 people were injured. Most of the victims were children in the second to sixth grades (7–11 years of age) attending the Bath Consolidated School. Their deaths constitute the deadliest mass murder in a school in U.S. history and the third-deadliest non-military massacre in U.S. history, behind 9/11 and the Oklahoma City bombing.

The bomber was school board treasurer Andrew Kehoe, 55 who died in a car bomb he set off after he drove up to the school as the crowd gathered to rescue survivors from the burning school.

On the morning of May 18, Kehoe murdered his wife by beating her to death, then set his farm buildings afire. As fire fighters arrived at the farm, an explosion devastated the north wing of the school building, killing many schoolchildren. He used a detonator to ignite dynamite and hundreds of pounds of pyrotol which he had secretly planted inside the school over the course of many months. As rescuers started gathering at the school, Kehoe drove up, stopped, and detonated a bomb inside his fragmentation-filled vehicle with his Winchester rifle, killing himself and the school superintendent, and killing and injuring several others. During rescue efforts searchers discovered an additional 500 pounds (230 kg) of unexploded dynamite and pyrotol planted throughout the basement of the school's south wing. Kehoe apparently had intended to blow up and destroy the whole school."

These mass murders are heartbreaking, but not new. What's new is the liberal mass-media sensatonalism of them.
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#9 Dec 16, 2012
The Good Son wrote:
<quoted text>
When I read this note of yours, I thought of this:
(Please note in the following narrative, only one round was fired.)
"The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, four other adults and the bomber himself; at least 58 people were injured. Most of the victims were children in the second to sixth grades (7–11 years of age) attending the Bath Consolidated School. Their deaths constitute the deadliest mass murder in a school in U.S. history and the third-deadliest non-military massacre in U.S. history, behind 9/11 and the Oklahoma City bombing.
The bomber was school board treasurer Andrew Kehoe, 55 who died in a car bomb he set off after he drove up to the school as the crowd gathered to rescue survivors from the burning school.
On the morning of May 18, Kehoe murdered his wife by beating her to death, then set his farm buildings afire. As fire fighters arrived at the farm, an explosion devastated the north wing of the school building, killing many schoolchildren. He used a detonator to ignite dynamite and hundreds of pounds of pyrotol which he had secretly planted inside the school over the course of many months. As rescuers started gathering at the school, Kehoe drove up, stopped, and detonated a bomb inside his fragmentation-filled vehicle with his Winchester rifle, killing himself and the school superintendent, and killing and injuring several others. During rescue efforts searchers discovered an additional 500 pounds (230 kg) of unexploded dynamite and pyrotol planted throughout the basement of the school's south wing. Kehoe apparently had intended to blow up and destroy the whole school."
These mass murders are heartbreaking, but not new. What's new is the liberal mass-media sensatonalism of them.
Thank you. You are dead on in saying,

"What's new is the liberal mass-media sensatonalism of them."

The liberal mass-media sensationalism aides in producing the desired effect on said "platforms"

What concerns me in addition is , the use of these tragedies to further the cause .. While America sleeps, and/or grieves, we are giving away small pieces of our freedom without noticing. Its a slippery slope.
Thanks for your info :)
Grace Nerissa

Bray, Ireland

#10 Dec 16, 2012
It has been said here.

'Things like this happen, it is high time to get over it, move on, grow up'

'High time'!!!

The slaying of these innocence happened just 2days ago, on the threshold of Christmas,
Smiling happy faces of innocent 7 year old looking out at us
In beautiful photographs, from every newspaper
On every newstand , the very essence of innocence..
And ..

the adults who protected them, one lady amongst them
who hid the young in her care from the gunman..in cupboards and toilets,
then faced
The gunman alone..
He shot her in the face..

Yes things like this happen, you advise not to get caught up in
The emotion of it, that may be fine advice if one is
a robot that can be switched on and sent in to sort out
the aftermath,
But

WE ARE HUMAN!!!!! And ull of emotions.

EMOTION is what makes us tick.
And even when one 'of our kind'
slips off the rails and does 'what he did'
We are in turmoil of mind..

RIP
To the angels who died in this very new
and huge tragedy.
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Since: Apr 08

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#11 Dec 16, 2012
I will preface this by saying, it is not certain Morgan Freeman did, indeed say this. However the words spoken, by whomever are timely, and wise. IMHO. Perhaps, if not spoken by Mr Freeman, some individual felt by putting a "famous name" to the quote, some would stop, just for a moment, and "listen" with thier god given intelligence, while still reaching inside their hearts, and understanding the true "whole tragedy" of what is taking place. REMEMBER THE VICTIMS..

MORGAN FREEMAN ON THE SHOOTINGS YESTERDAY:

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations*, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem."

I remember a victim from Columbine, Rachel Scott, whose father spent years after that tragedy sweeping the states and speaking on behalf of his daughter. I was fortunate to see him speak.....He was inspirational in his love for America, his daughter, and bringing America to focus on such horrific tragedys. He did not carry his political views with him. Only a desire for healing, and awareness...

“Towards Spring”

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Since: Dec 06

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#12 Dec 16, 2012
reebie wrote:
I will preface this by saying, it is not certain Morgan Freeman did, indeed say this. However the words spoken, by whomever are timely, and wise. IMHO. Perhaps, if not spoken by Mr Freeman, some individual felt by putting a "famous name" to the quote, some would stop, just for a moment, and "listen" with thier god given intelligence, while still reaching inside their hearts, and understanding the true "whole tragedy" of what is taking place. REMEMBER THE VICTIMS..
MORGAN FREEMAN ON THE SHOOTINGS YESTERDAY:
"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.
It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.
CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations*, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.
You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem."
I remember a victim from Columbine, Rachel Scott, whose father spent years after that tragedy sweeping the states and speaking on behalf of his daughter. I was fortunate to see him speak.....He was inspirational in his love for America, his daughter, and bringing America to focus on such horrific tragedys. He did not carry his political views with him. Only a desire for healing, and awareness...
Yes Reebie,
Good post, but, unfortunately it is the way of the media,
whether we like it or not.,,

yes, I also recall 'when '9/11' happened and
our SKY NEWS over in these parts,
had the Twin Towers falling, literally on a roll,
we saw it over and over and over..

Having said that " SKY NEWS " in other ways gives
excellent up to date International news coverage.

Often times, it isn't as clear cut [I think]
as some disturbed person with a gun thinking

'The last guy only killed X amount,
I
can top that'

I feel it's more a combination of several factors of
a very disturbed mind that acts semi-spontaneously..
going on to produce the gravity of these happenings.

“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

South Bend, IN

#13 Dec 16, 2012
When someone shoots their own mother in the face, then 20 random children as many as 11 times each, it is NOT a problem that can be fixed by doing anything with guns. That much anger, or that little respect for human life, will find its outlet no matter the means.

“Towards Spring”

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Since: Dec 06

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#14 Dec 16, 2012
Uh Clem wrote:
When someone shoots their own mother in the face, then 20 random children as many as 11 times each, it is NOT a problem that can be fixed by doing anything with guns. That much anger, or that little respect for human life, will find its outlet no matter the means.
Yes,
a point, Clem,

but, has to be said.. HOW much more 'convenient' it was
for *him* in this particular case... to grab a gun,
in a household where guns were SO readily available..
and spray people away with the ease
of using a garden watering hose.

Since: Jun 09

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#15 Dec 16, 2012
The Good Son wrote:
<quoted text>
When I read this note of yours, I thought of this:
(Please note in the following narrative, only one round was fired.)
"The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, four other adults and the bomber himself; at least 58 people were injured. Most of the victims were children in the second to sixth grades (7–11 years of age) attending the Bath Consolidated School. Their deaths constitute the deadliest mass murder in a school in U.S. history and the third-deadliest non-military massacre in U.S. history, behind 9/11 and the Oklahoma City bombing.
The bomber was school board treasurer Andrew Kehoe, 55 who died in a car bomb he set off after he drove up to the school as the crowd gathered to rescue survivors from the burning school.
On the morning of May 18, Kehoe murdered his wife by beating her to death, then set his farm buildings afire. As fire fighters arrived at the farm, an explosion devastated the north wing of the school building, killing many schoolchildren. He used a detonator to ignite dynamite and hundreds of pounds of pyrotol which he had secretly planted inside the school over the course of many months. As rescuers started gathering at the school, Kehoe drove up, stopped, and detonated a bomb inside his fragmentation-filled vehicle with his Winchester rifle, killing himself and the school superintendent, and killing and injuring several others. During rescue efforts searchers discovered an additional 500 pounds (230 kg) of unexploded dynamite and pyrotol planted throughout the basement of the school's south wing. Kehoe apparently had intended to blow up and destroy the whole school."
These mass murders are heartbreaking, but not new. What's new is the liberal mass-media sensatonalism of them.
How sad that a sub-human like you sees the murder of children as "sensationalism". You are sick!

“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

South Bend, IN

#16 Dec 16, 2012
Grace Nerissa wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes,
a point, Clem,
but, has to be said.. HOW much more 'convenient' it was
for *him* in this particular case... to grab a gun,
in a household where guns were SO readily available..
and spray people away with the ease
of using a garden watering hose.
It might have been just as convenient to steal a gasoline tanker truck and drive it into the building. Or a truck full of ammonium nitrate and fuel oil, like the Oklahoma City bombing.

A mind like that doesn't care about the method or the difficulty of acquiring the means. People are trying to apply rational thinking to an irrational mind.
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Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#17 Dec 16, 2012
Grace Nerissa wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes Reebie,
Good post, but, unfortunately it is the way of the media,
whether we like it or not.,,
yes, I also recall 'when '9/11' happened and
our SKY NEWS over in these parts,
had the Twin Towers falling, literally on a roll,
we saw it over and over and over..
Having said that " SKY NEWS " in other ways gives
excellent up to date International news coverage.
Often times, it isn't as clear cut [I think]
as some disturbed person with a gun thinking
'The last guy only killed X amount,
I
can top that'
I feel it's more a combination of several factors of
a very disturbed mind that acts semi-spontaneously..
going on to produce the gravity of these happenings.
I agree :) but to say, it is the way of the media, whether we like it or not, to me is givng power to an offending force.
Or to speak of the "convenience" of a weapon. Prison murders happen every day, there are no guns, their convenience is makeshift weapons with intent to end life.
Media exacerbates emotion and frenzy, somewhere along the line, we as individuals MUST step back, emotionally, and use our intelligence. And, trust me Grace :) I am saying that, as a PAINFULLY, emotional woman. We cant simply sit back, and say thats the way it is...
I have my stand on the gun war, but as Ive said, today is not the day to discuss "guns" it is the day to lay aside our differences,and grieve with these families who have lost such precious life..
Friday, if guns were banned across America, first , this monster would still have completed his rampage , most likely armed with an arsenal, obtained underground... his intent was to devestate. If no guns.. he would have used spoons. the tragedy would remain,,, lives lost to a man with with evil intent.
REMEMBER THE VICTIMS..

Since: Jun 09

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#18 Dec 16, 2012
Uh Clem wrote:
<quoted text>
It might have been just as convenient to steal a gasoline tanker truck and drive it into the building. Or a truck full of ammonium nitrate and fuel oil, like the Oklahoma City bombing.
A mind like that doesn't care about the method or the difficulty of acquiring the means. People are trying to apply rational thinking to an irrational mind.
And, since we can't ban all those things, we MUST allow assault weapons?!

Urineidiot.

“Towards Spring”

Level 8

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#19 Dec 16, 2012
Uh Clem wrote:
<quoted text>
It might have been just as convenient to steal a gasoline tanker truck and drive it into the building. Or a truck full of ammonium nitrate and fuel oil, like the Oklahoma City bombing.
A mind like that doesn't care about the method or the difficulty of acquiring the means. People are trying to apply rational thinking to an irrational mind.
I see you point Clem,
and I always respect YOU and your
posts AND your fine wit in less serious times..

but..

to me .. at any rate, stealing a tanker or
putting your hand [or more correctly, in this particular case]
on a gun that obviously lay conveniently about,
are simply poles apart..

I'm not faulting his Mom,
it is sad she thought him how to use a gun..

perhaps, MOST unexpected factors came into play..

a confused, misunderstood mind..
being taught how to use a gun..

"never dreaming" ..........

and the rest UNFORTUNATELY is history..

An appropriate saying that applies...>

'Easy to be wise .. after the event'

“Towards Spring”

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Since: Dec 06

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#20 Dec 16, 2012
spelling correction> 'taught' him how to use a gun

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