Should the US intervene in Syria's ci...

Should the US intervene in Syria's civil war?

Created by Hoosier Hillbilly on Aug 29, 2013

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And how far should "WE" go

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#485 Sep 11, 2013
Dudedad wrote:
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what does the u.s. stand to gain??? since when does saving people from being exterminated have to have a monetary value to us?? you see someone drowning you try to help them... not walk away and say "oh, there's nothing to gain here... he'll be fine"
just saying
Apples and Oranges.
If I see someone drowning and I save him, then I gain the knowledge that I did a good thing. No man is that altruistic that he would do for another without some form of reward, even if it is only a warm fuzzy feeling for a few minutes.
If, in fact, the US were worried about saving lives in Syria, 100,000 deaths ago was the time to intervene. Bombing Assad is not about saving Syrians, it's not about punishing Assad, it is about Barry saving face. Fortunately for Barry, Putin was able to come up with a plan that not only keeps Assad in power with the bulk of his military intact, and it allows Comrade Barry to save face with a diplomatic solution and to top it off it also makes Assad and Putin look like the good guys.

Hooray for us!

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#486 Sep 11, 2013
Maybe the Congress and Senate wouldn't fight Obama, so much...if he wasn't such a Jellyfish...the man has NO backbone...

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#487 Sep 11, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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I've never met another person in my life who talks about the color of the President's skin more than this ^^^^ idiot.
That is because Ferret is hoping that some of the black stereotypes is true, well one of them anyway.

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#488 Sep 11, 2013
Somebody please let Hank Johnson know that this sudden flip-flop by the Obamanation will not cause the US to capsize.

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#489 Sep 11, 2013
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<quoted text>I missed Newt but, I can imagine!
I just shudder at the thought of a "President Romney" and how he would have mishandled this... Scary thought!
It get's worse, McCain would'nt have counseled Romney, and we'd be on the ground there, by now.....

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#490 Sep 11, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>It get's worse, McCain would'nt have counseled Romney, and we'd be on the ground there, by now.....
And to think that 48 hours ago you were all for haphazardly launching missiles.

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#492 Sep 11, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>It get's worse, McCain would'nt have counseled Romney, and we'd be on the ground there, by now.....
No matter what you say about McCain, Romney or any other Republican, it really doesn't matter...Obama is the President...he is the one who needs to STAND UP...and get a Backbone...
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#493 Sep 11, 2013
Marissa your political views are very elementary. It sounds like you're repeating what you hear your husband or father say. Backbone?

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#494 Sep 11, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>See there....let's just say, we use all those missiles and bombs, that have reached their, use-by dates....cull the herd of armnaments.....we aren't a people that can look the other way, on something like this....never have been.....then, in the next general election, a major issue is my desire to really pare down our monstrous defense spending.....
I read somewhere that before 1960 the USA and USSR each (EACH!!!) had twice as many nuclear bombs and missiles needed to destroy everything on earth .. and yet they kept on building ... makes no sense does it?

ANd then in the 1970's and 80's they spent milions supposedly dissmantling many of them???

was that all just to feed the war machine money?

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#495 Sep 11, 2013
tallyho wrote:
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Israel is a racist nation ?? never knew that always thought Judaism was a religious affair
The dictionary definetion says it can be a segregation based on race or other based on other contexts.

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#496 Sep 11, 2013
Uh Clem wrote:
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Frankly, the logic in trying to stop future terrorist from killing each other by bombing them escapes me.
the USA had a civil war once ... I wonder how they would have felt if outsiders started picking sides and fighting for one side or the other?

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#497 Sep 11, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>They left the light on.....that guy is from Sturgis, Michigan....God bless him....Did you see the history scholar here, that say's the German's did'nt kill their own people...beyond sad...
you can look at almost any country in the world and see oppresion that has occured or is occuring based on religious, racial or cultural differences.

I read a claim once that the salve trade, on a worldwide scale, resulted in well over 100 million deaths of African natives from the 14th to the 19th centuries.

This includes north and South American slave trading, so several European nations were involved, and the countries they formed.

I felt that was an exagerated number, but I would say 25 to 50 million is quite plausible.

Nearly half the slaves who got on a ship did not live to get off at the other end.

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#498 Sep 11, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>President Obama look's Brilliant, here....He demands the missile and bombing attack on Assad....Leading to mixed outrage, by Media, Congress and the Global Community....And, a shaky Assad, working through Putin and Kerry, offers to hand over his stockpile of Chemical Weapons.....And, without one shot fired....That's BRILLIANT.....
so you think that was the pan all along??

Or did Putin just manage to make Obamma/USA look pretty bad as the aggressors while RUssia looks like the peacemaker?

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#499 Sep 12, 2013
Marissa 2 wrote:
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No matter what you say about McCain, Romney or any other Republican, it really doesn't matter...Obama is the President...he is the one who needs to STAND UP...and get a Backbone...
Actually, i feel that with our asset's in that area....8 straight hours of blazing, bombardment.....would do wonders and Assad would be a memory.....

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#500 Sep 12, 2013
franko wrote:
<quoted text>so you think that was the pan all along??
Or did Putin just manage to make Obamma/USA look pretty bad as the aggressors while RUssia looks like the peacemaker?
I think something happened when Charlie Rose asked Assad about the chemical weapons being handed over....Assad acted shocked that Rose would presuppose that he was responsible for the gassing......After that, suddenly Putin and Assad are talking about possibly handing the chemical weapons over.....From here to there, in a flash....lol....

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#501 Sep 12, 2013
Any comments on Putin's op-ed in the New York Times?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/put...

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#502 Sep 12, 2013
Always Wary wrote:
Any comments on Putin's op-ed in the New York Times?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/put...
Pretty much the same thing Obama was telling anyone that would listen during his apology tour.

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#503 Sep 12, 2013
Always Wary wrote:
Any comments on Putin's op-ed in the New York Times?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/put...
Putin's just another obnoxious Dictator...stealing elections and jailing dissidents....Russia is only a fraction, of what the USSR was.....

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#504 Sep 12, 2013
dragoon70056 wrote:
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Pretty much the same thing Obama was telling anyone that would listen during his apology tour.
I didn't read it that way.
Putin is claiming the rebels did it.
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#505 Sep 12, 2013
Always Wary wrote:
Any comments on Putin's op-ed in the New York Times?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/put...
I'm embarrassed that Russia thought of this plan and we didn't. It wouldn't have taken great leadership on Obama's part or his teams part to say turn over the weapons or we will strike.

While I also don't know what the intel shows, since the incident first happened I thought all along that it was possible it was the rebels who did it, since they have the most to gain by doing so and pointing the finger at the regime. Assad has almost nothing to gain by using them, especially on such a limited scale (strategically it accomplished nothing), since it was sure to incur the wrath of the west. I'd also say if the intel does not conclusively prove that it was Assad (if it did, I think we'd all know of this), it is indeed more than just a nominal possibility that this in fact was the case.

Having said that I am no fan of Putin and I know the Russian position on Syria is motivated by self-interest. However, it doesn't change the fact that there is little to be gained by us getting involved and we should have been the ones who first suggested turning them over, such that we controlled the terms of how this would take place.

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