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Should the US intervene in Syria's civil war?

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I watched thatinterview here on Sky News....
the next fellow interviewed said "we have to do something, we cannot just sit back and do nothing".
Well, that's America. It's interesting that what's left of our current crop of republicans has been all over the place with 'solutions' for Syria. Historically they love war. Just a few years ago they were gleeful about invading any country in the Middle East that might have simply HEARD of the 9/11 attacks. But, if the black president seems to want war too, suddenly they are "isolationists".

Obama is handling this beautifully.

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<quoted text>Well, that's America. It's interesting that what's left of our current crop of republicans has been all over the place with 'solutions' for Syria. Historically they love war. Just a few years ago they were gleeful about invading any country in the Middle East that might have simply HEARD of the 9/11 attacks. But, if the black president seems to want war too, suddenly they are "isolationists".
Obama is handling this beautifully.
It's been kinda fun watching Fox, all befuddled and not knowing quite how to slam the President over this....lol....How uncomfortable did Newt look on CNN, lastnite?...lol...

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thanks am aware of the history , the US could not declare war upon Hitler.... we did Japan , but in a lucky way Hitler erred and declared war upon the USA [btw] the only country he did
"thanks am aware of the history"

I realise that but sometimes as well to enlarge the bigger
picture. As you have done here, as I was ignorant of the fact that Germany declared war upon the USA.

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Yes, Obama is handling this so beautifully. This was his plan all along. He knew it would work out like this. It had nothing to do with Russia stepping in and making the proposal, which basically allowed Obama to save face, because Americans nor Congress would have supported his decision to attack Syria.

Me thinks you some of you hacks would say he was f'ing genius if he bought a lotto ticket and won the lotto as if he knew he would win the lotto and it was all part of his master plan.

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This "few pointed or specific targeted attacks" that Obama speaks of is NOT good. Look what happened in Iraq when we CHOSE to bomb only selected areas (no places of worship). The places of worship were the EXACT places that the enemies were. In my opinion, when you attack someone you fricken attack them with a huge assault......Make them AFRAID to raise a hand back at you. If you nitpick small targets they will not get the massage. If they cut off a pinky, you have to come back and cut off both of their arms. These people only know rulership by fear, so you gotta fight fire with fire.....instill the fear of death in them. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but killing and war IS HARSH. If you do it, do it full force and make a huge impact/statement..... You have to send a message to ALL the neighboring areas that you will not be messed with, period.
IRAQ was a ground and air war, all along...it grew into Nation Building, which was the worst part.....cost the taxpayers an estimated $3 trillion plus.....

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<quoted text>Well, that's America. It's interesting that what's left of our current crop of republicans has been all over the place with 'solutions' for Syria. Historically they love war. Just a few years ago they were gleeful about invading any country in the Middle East that might have simply HEARD of the 9/11 attacks. But, if the black president seems to want war too, suddenly they are "isolationists".
Obama is handling this beautifully.
I've never met another person in my life who talks about the color of the President's skin more than this ^^^^ idiot.

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<quoted text>Looking the other way, has to be near impossible, for many Americans....especially those that know well, the history of the Holocaust....and Cambodia...
Absolutely. Histories which one would hope are on the
curricum in schools...so much has been brushed under the carpet.

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curriculum...sorry.

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viewing audience wrote:
<quoted text>Well, that's America. It's interesting that what's left of our current crop of republicans has been all over the place with 'solutions' for Syria. Historically they love war. Just a few years ago they were gleeful about invading any country in the Middle East that might have simply HEARD of the 9/11 attacks. But, if the black president seems to want war too, suddenly they are "isolationists".
Obama is handling this beautifully.
I can quite believe what you say, and how refreshing to hear
an American speak so highly of their President, with whom we
over here have the utmost confidence.
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Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>It's been kinda fun watching Fox, all befuddled and not knowing quite how to slam the President over this....lol....How uncomfortable did Newt look on CNN, lastnite?...lol...
I missed Newt but, I can imagine!

I just shudder at the thought of a "President Romney" and how he would have mishandled this... Scary thought!
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Yes, Obama is handling this so beautifully. This was his plan all along. He knew it would work out like this. It had nothing to do with Russia stepping in and making the proposal, which basically allowed Obama to save face, because Americans nor Congress would have supported his decision to attack Syria.
Me thinks you some of you hacks would say he was f'ing genius if he bought a lotto ticket and won the lotto as if he knew he would win the lotto and it was all part of his master plan.
Yea well, gamers like you tend to have a need for a quicker conflict resolution. Time expires and suddenly you're left holding your joystick? Who gets the luxury of knowing what other components will do in advance? How you react and adjust is as important as how you attack. I recall a guy in teh early 2000's who wanted to set up shop in the ME for 20+ years and "hacks" like you were OK with that.
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eleanorigby wrote:
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I can quite believe what you say, and how refreshing to hear
an American speak so highly of their President, with whom we
over here have the utmost confidence.
Well, despite what we read in these threads, he DID get elected twice so, he's well thought of here, too! I think that Europeans might get a better take on the US because they have the luxury of objectivity that we lose with the saturation of cable TV *news*. They can look at what the situation IS rather than what it can be spun to *be*.

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<quoted text>Yea well, gamers like you tend to have a need for a quicker conflict resolution. Time expires and suddenly you're left holding your joystick? Who gets the luxury of knowing what other components will do in advance? How you react and adjust is as important as how you attack.
Hey, nimrod, I'm not criticizing him for how he is reacting. Although, he really has no choice, because neither Congress nor the American public will support an attack on Syria.

So, I'm not criticizing him ... rather I'm criticizing you idiot cheerleaders who are going on and on about how brilliant he is, as if this was all part of his master plan. When something falls in your lap, it's called happenstance, not brilliance. There was no foresight involved in any of this. There was no brilliance. IF there was any brilliance, it was by Putin, because he saved his guy's a$s and thwarted Obama's ability to attack Syria.

Any such notion that this development is brilliance on Obama's part is just spin doctoring by a few Obama lover cheerleaders on here who should not be taken seriously on any political matter, because no matter what Obama does they will approve and cheer. Obama could kill someone while drunk, like Ted Kennedy, and you all would try to spin it into something positive. That's why you are hacks. You are not objective thinkers.
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<quoted text>I recall a guy in teh early 2000's who wanted to set up shop in the ME for 20+ years and "hacks" like you were OK with that.
Fail. I think the Iraq war was a huge blunder. I'm not a partisan hack like you, who ratifies every single thing a President who I voted for does as if acknowledging a poor decision by such a President is a poor reflection on me and will crush my fragile ego.

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<quoted text>Well, despite what we read in these threads, he DID get elected twice so, he's well thought of here, too! I think that Europeans might get a better take on the US because they have the luxury of objectivity that we lose with the saturation of cable TV *news*. They can look at what the situation IS rather than what it can be spun to *be*.
Second term, of course, speaks for itself.
But as for objectivity, I think not, although we don't have cable
tv in this particular area, being mountainous, we have the 'luxury'
of Fox; CNN...in fact 12 news channels courtesy of satellite tv.
And nobody more biased than the BBC!

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<quoted text>Yea well, gamers like you tend to have a need for a quicker conflict resolution. Time expires and suddenly you're left holding your joystick?
Furthermore, I'd rather be a gamer than a 60 year old lady, who gray boxes, switches IPs and follows folks around topix who have made her mad, rite.

My folks are in their 60s and they are travel the world. You are in your 60s and you sit on topix all day trolling:

http://www.despair.com/mistakes.html

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<quoted text>Well, despite what we read in these threads, he DID get elected twice so, he's well thought of here, too! I think that Europeans might get a better take on the US because they have the luxury of objectivity that we lose with the saturation of cable TV *news*. They can look at what the situation IS rather than what it can be spun to *be*.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/pres...

"Only 28% of Americans approve of the Presidentís handling of Syria, although foreign policy has traditionally been his strong point in polls. A majority of participants in the joint Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey also said they felt the U.S. should focus on domestic problems rather than promote democracy and freedom abroad."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obam...

Presidential approval: High 69%, low 38%, term average to date 49%,most recent average 44%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_conten...

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama's job performance. Fifty-four percent (54%) disapprove (see trends).

"The latest figures include 22% who Strongly Approve of the way Obama is performing as president and 42% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -20. "

Well thought of? Not so much. Lots of morons were still buying into the "Bush's Fault" talking point and mainly voted against Bush in 2012 even though he'd been out of office nearly 4 years by that time.

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"thanks am aware of the history"
I realise that but sometimes as well to enlarge the bigger
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eleanorigby wrote:
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Second term, of course, speaks for itself.
But as for objectivity, I think not, although we don't have cable
tv in this particular area, being mountainous, we have the 'luxury'
of Fox; CNN...in fact 12 news channels courtesy of satellite tv.
And nobody more biased than the BBC!
Work with me here! I'm trying to improve foreign relations!

I did not know you folks were so saturated with "our" news! How do you stay objective? I get all my Foxnews from Jon Stewart and I don't look at MSNBC except around presidential elections, just to see what the scores are. I just don't care to waste a lot of time watching news that (mostly) all comes out of the same spigot and, like water, gets repackaged and branded as fresh and unique for each audience. Five or six corporations own ALL the media. How different could they seriously be. News is business. The only thing more slanted and pathetic is opinion polls. It's amazing but, some people believe in them even though they are no different or more accurate than market research for detergent. Hard to believe but, people who buy "Tide" believe it is better than "ALL". Funny how that works out.

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<quoted text>Work with me here! I'm trying to improve foreign relations!
I did not know you folks were so saturated with "our" news! How do you stay objective? I get all my Foxnews from Jon Stewart and I don't look at MSNBC except around presidential elections, just to see what the scores are. I just don't care to waste a lot of time watching news that (mostly) all comes out of the same spigot and, like water, gets repackaged and branded as fresh and unique for each audience. Five or six corporations own ALL the media. How different could they seriously be. News is business. The only thing more slanted and pathetic is opinion polls. It's amazing but, some people believe in them even though they are no different or more accurate than market research for detergent. Hard to believe but, people who buy "Tide" believe it is better than "ALL". Funny how that works out.
According to the 'powers that be' relations between our countries is strong as ever!
I personally do not believe I am objective..world affairs concern me deeply, and remember, our military are as committed as those in your country in recent events. So what happens in the USA affects us ultimately.
Sensationalism is the name of the game in broadcasting, you just have to separate the wheat from the chaff.
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