George Zimmerman Verdict: Not Guilty
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La Grange, IL

#1483 Jul 24, 2013
DaveMC wrote:
LOL... Does being a liberal mean I have to jump on the Al Sharpton racism bandwagon??? I choose not to be brainwashed by the media and hold my own opinions. If you look at the facts of the case they are what they are...you can completely leave race out of the equation and the facts of the case don't change... Tell your children not to assault people...once Zimmerman ended up on the ground and Trayvon started his MMA style ground and pound your head into the concrete he was begging for what happened next. Its an unfortunate incident but hopefully other people learn from it.
EXACTLY! It could be a rapist, following a teenage girl. It doesn't matter what race. Frightened, she turns to confront the man. Frightened as well BUT, blessed with a gun AND a special right, he kills the girl. Based on the law, he is allowed to kill the girl without charges. She is not alive to tell her story.

Remember- under SYG Zimmerman was not arrested. It took public outrage just to get him charged and to trial.

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#1484 Jul 24, 2013
new persona same profile wrote:
<quoted text>EXACTLY! It could be a rapist, following a teenage girl. It doesn't matter what race. Frightened, she turns to confront the man. Frightened as well BUT, blessed with a gun AND a special right, he kills the girl. Based on the law, he is allowed to kill the girl without charges. She is not alive to tell her story.
Remember- under SYG Zimmerman was not arrested. It took public outrage just to get him charged and to trial.
^^^This repeat makes even less sense the second time around.

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#1486 Jul 24, 2013
new persona same profile wrote:
<quoted text>EXACTLY! It could be a rapist, following a teenage girl. It doesn't matter what race. Frightened, she turns to confront the man. Frightened as well BUT, blessed with a gun AND a special right, he kills the girl. Based on the law, he is allowed to kill the girl without charges. She is not alive to tell her story.
Remember- under SYG Zimmerman was not arrested. It took public outrage just to get him charged and to trial.
I hope you understand the difference between confronting someone and smashing someones head into the concrete multiple times. He was not arrested because there was no reason to believe he had done anything but defend himself...The state didn't want to prosecute because given the facts of the case they knew it would be impossible to get a conviction...Its unfortunate that a 17 year old lost his life but this is what happens when you assault someone to the point of smashing their head into the concrete while they have a firearm in their possession.

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#1487 Jul 24, 2013
Kathlene wrote:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...
Last I checked, that doesn't include the right to beat the chit out of someone for being a creepy cracka.

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#1488 Jul 24, 2013
Facts are facts wrote:
Moral of story part II
If you're minding your own business and stalked by a loser who misinterprets the situation, thinking you're a burglar and he starts a tussle, don't have the misfortune of gaining the upper hand in defending yourself in said fight if the stalker has a gun on his person.
Did anyone ask Trayvon if at any point he feared for his life before he defended himself?
Fact: Police had been called to this subdivision 402 times over the course of about thirteen months leading up to this incident...do the math...on average more than once a day for over a year

Fact: In that same reign of time there were 8 burglaries, 7 thefts, and 1 shooting

Fact: Zimmerman was coordinator of the neighborhood watch and was instructed by a police officer to get a permit to carry a firearm

Fact: Zimmermans eyewitness account to a robbery led to the arrest of someone in possession of a stolen laptop from this neighborhood

Calling Zimmerman a loser for looking out for the well being of his law-abiding neighbors is disingenuous. Im not claiming Martin was up to no good and Im not claiming Martin is a thug, Im saying Martin assaulted someone who thought his only defense was to end the other guys life...that is some real sh!t right there.

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#1489 Jul 24, 2013
Kathlene wrote:
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Just a Reminder...
Don't follow someone's child without permission.
Better yet, teach kid's to respect authority and their elders....not fighting technique......BTW, that is a Cripp's tattoo on Tracy Martin's neck....displaying paternal instincts?

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#1491 Jul 24, 2013
Kathlene wrote:
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"You know,on the liberal plantations where all good Blacks are expected to stay,right where the demoncrats pay them to stay. The smart,responsible and/or lucky ones escape. Make lives for themselves,away from the thugs who kill each other for sport and innocents by accident."
Speaking of plantations...are you aware that Monsanto holds a patent to potentially kill every living breathing being on earth?...regardless of race, color or creed?
Guess it worked, most all the good blacks are currently employed....We talking about those, lean on the system, criminally inspired, scream racism at every chance, blacks.....

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#1494 Jul 24, 2013
Yeah but wrote:
<quoted text>Trayvon belonged there, Trayvon wasn't burglarizing, and the Police were not there "though they were called 402 times to the subdivision"
I don't see how what you say constitutes taking the law in your own hands, stopping a perfectly innocent lad from proceeding home and ultimately killing him.
I don't know how much of the trial you watched, but Zimmerman never stopped Martin. Stop getting your facts from Sweetie Pie.
Interesting

La Grange, IL

#1495 Jul 24, 2013
Yeah but wrote:
<quoted text>Trayvon belonged there, Trayvon wasn't burglarizing, and the Police were not there "though they were called 402 times to the subdivision"
I don't see how what you say constitutes taking the law in your own hands, stopping a perfectly innocent lad from proceeding home and ultimately killing him.
I believe Zimmerman himself had made 47 calls to the police, none resulting in arrests. Cops prioritize calls. When some jackleg, mall security wannabe keeps bothering them crying "wolf" they are apt to NOT break speed records to answer yet another, "nothing" call. And, Zimmerman, tired of being a nuisance himself, decided to confront and kill the demon inside him.
Billy R

La Grange, IL

#1496 Jul 24, 2013
Show me where in the Stand Your Ground law where it says it CAN'T be applied to men who kill 17 year old white girls.

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#1498 Jul 24, 2013
Yeah but wrote:
So why was "the 911 Op told him to stand down but he did his thang anyway" even an issue that's been talked about on these very threads?
Are you saying Trayvon sought out Zimmerman? Spin it!
LOL!
Trial evidence and eye witness testimony proved it.....

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#1499 Jul 24, 2013
Yeah but wrote:
<quoted text>Trayvon belonged there, Trayvon wasn't burglarizing, and the Police were not there "though they were called 402 times to the subdivision"
I don't see how what you say constitutes taking the law in your own hands, stopping a perfectly innocent lad from proceeding home and ultimately killing him.
The community set up neighborhood watch and put Zimmerman in charge...thats not taking the law into your own hands, thats being elected by your neighbors to spot and report suspicious activity. With that being said, whether Trayvon had the right to be there or whether Zimmerman had the right to take the law into his own hands doesnt matter. Zimmerman was doing what everyone else in the neighborhood had asked him to do by observing behavior he thought to be suspicious. There was physical evidence that backed up Zimmermans testimony of assault and the fact is he had a permit for the firearm...The real issue is, out of the only two witnesses to this incident only one is alive. According to the law you cannot convict someone on what you believe to be true. There has to be evidence beyond the shadow of a doubt.

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#1500 Jul 24, 2013
Kathlene wrote:
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(Washington, DC)— Dan Gross, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence called the verdict,“part of a tragic event that could have easily been prevented.”
Gross said,“There is sharp disagreement over the verdict, but there can be no disagreement over the reason why Trayvon Martin is dead. George Zimmerman had a gun that night, and the state of Florida allowed him to carry it virtually anywhere despite a violent history. Virtually anybody roaming our neighborhoods with hidden handguns is the gun lobby's vision, but it is not the vision of the rest of the American public, truly committed to safer communities. We will work as long, and as hard as it takes to prevent more tragedies like Trayvon Martin's. We recognize, at the end of the day, this is an enormous tragedy and a young man lost his life. Our sympathies continue to go out to Trayvon’s family.”
The Brady Campaign has been one of the leaders in fighting against “Stand Your Ground” or so called,“shoot first” laws like the one in Florida. As evidenced by the tragic shooting of Trayvon Martin, these laws have deadly consequences. They promote a dangerous mentality and misperception about weapons, by overemphasizing their value in self-defense relative to the other dangers that they pose.
In the end, George Zimmerman's mentality, and what emboldened him to approach Trayvon, may be debatable. What is not debatable, though, is the fact that Trayvon Martin is dead because Zimmerman had a gun. Zimmerman was given a concealed carry permit by the state of Florida despite an arrest record and a history of violence, as a direct result of the influence of the gun lobby, and if it weren’t for that, this tragedy never would have happened.
The Brady Center, the legal arm of the Brady Campaign, has been at the forefront in fighting concealed weapons laws. They recently filed an amicus brief along with the parents of Trayvon Martin, asking the entire United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals to review and reverse a 2-1 decision that held Illinois law restricting the public carrying of firearms unconstitutional.
“Allowing deadly semi-automatic weapons on the streets does not make a community safer. By arguing for a broad constitutional right to carry hidden handguns, the gun lobby wants to deprive law enforcement of the tools it needs to keep guns off the streets. The American people should be allowed to decide whether they want people like George Zimmerman carrying loaded guns in public places where their children walk home,” said Brady Center Legal Action Project Director Jonathan Lowy.“Most courts have properly recognized that reasonable public safety laws do not infringe on the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens. Courts should listen to the parents of Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis, who lost their sons to people whose states entitled them to carry guns in public.”
Zimmermans violent history is 7 years ago when his ex-wife and him filed restraining orders against each other because of claimed domestic violence that was never proven...beautiful spin to that one to promote anti-gun propaganda...I don't believe we need assault rifles but people do need to be armed. So lets say hypothetically Zimmerman doesn't have a gun that night. He basically gets bludgeoned to death by a teen whos given past record is on pace to become a career criminal and the guy elected to be neighborhood watch lay there slowly passing in his own pool of blood. What a distorted world you must want to live in.

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#1501 Jul 24, 2013
Yeah but wrote:
So why was "the 911 Op told him to stand down but he did his thang anyway" even an issue that's been talked about on these very threads?
Are you saying Trayvon sought out Zimmerman? Spin it!
LOL!
Have you and Ferret ever played "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader"? Save yourselves the embarrasment, and don't!

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#1503 Jul 24, 2013
LOST IN MISSISSIPPI wrote:
<quoted text>yeah
shoot and run
Hardly a new behavior in the hood.

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#1504 Jul 24, 2013
Interesting wrote:
<quoted text>I believe Zimmerman himself had made 47 calls to the police, none resulting in arrests. Cops prioritize calls. When some jackleg, mall security wannabe keeps bothering them crying "wolf" they are apt to NOT break speed records to answer yet another, "nothing" call. And, Zimmerman, tired of being a nuisance himself, decided to confront and kill the demon inside him.
Not true...you should probably do a little more research on the subject. We had a home in my neighborhood as a child burglarized and the womans husband working nights when it happened. The intruder took the gun from her and shot her. She lived but a neighborhood watch was set up because of it. At no point would I refer to the people trying to protect my neighborhood and their neighbors as wannabe mall security. That's disrespectful to genuinely concerned citizens. Zimmerman could have just as easily lost his life that night thinking he was protecting his neighbors.

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#1506 Jul 24, 2013
Sweetie Pie...please quit sending me PMs...anything you have to say you can say out here in the open like a big boy.

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#1507 Jul 24, 2013
So-called "Stand Your Ground", Castle Doctrine laws are a POS. They encourage a surviving armed shooter to lie to save his sorry azz after the fact and say he was in fear for his life, after he's conveniently executed the only other eye witness on the scene.

Faced with the choices of telling the truth and going to prision, or lying through his teeth and swearing he "feared for his life" and going free, I'd guess 98-99% of these scared little guys will lie. The only fans of this law are the executioners and the NRA.

These laws also rely way too heavily on the state of mind of the shooter. Yes, he was fearful for his life! He was so fearful, insecure and scared of some faceless, nameless boogie man that he already felt he needed to carry! So it's a given: CCW guy will rely on these laws to shoot first and lie about why later.

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#1508 Jul 24, 2013
You said it wrote:
<quoted text>"spot and report". Had George let it stand at that this would all be moot.
Um, it IS a moot point. Not guilty.

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#1509 Jul 24, 2013
Chilli J wrote:
So-called "Stand Your Ground", Castle Doctrine laws are a POS. They encourage a surviving armed shooter to lie to save his sorry azz after the fact and say he was in fear for his life, after he's conveniently executed the only other eye witness on the scene.
Faced with the choices of telling the truth and going to prision, or lying through his teeth and swearing he "feared for his life" and going free, I'd guess 98-99% of these scared little guys will lie. The only fans of this law are the executioners and the NRA.
These laws also rely way too heavily on the state of mind of the shooter. Yes, he was fearful for his life! He was so fearful, insecure and scared of some faceless, nameless boogie man that he already felt he needed to carry! So it's a given: CCW guy will rely on these laws to shoot first and lie about why later.
Chilli J...He wasn't carrying for this purpose. He was carrying because someone in the neighborhood had a pitbull that kept getting loose and terrorizing all of the neighbors...same pitbull had cornered Zimmermans spouse on 4 occasions. Because of this or fear the dog might actually attack a kid at some point law enforcement told him he should get a gun. Im sure after a shooting in the neighborhood and given the theft and burglaries carrying a weapon was probably needed.

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