Plant in Gallatin, Mo., could reopen as a horse slaughter facility

Jul 3, 2013 Full story: The Kansas City Star 82

A small family operation about 70 miles northeast of Kansas City is likely to become the nation's third plant that will slaughter horses and process the meat.

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#21 Jul 12, 2013
Beautiful Black Molly wrote:
<quoted text>
1) Many wild horses are still about, but I think they would raise them like cows for slaughter ...... NOT with my approval.
2) Horses cannot be raised with cattle. Cows have one set of lower teeth and must wrap their tongue around tall grass and shear it off. Horses have 2 sets of teeth and clip the grass too low for cows to get a grip. That why the ratio is about 1 horse to 30 cows on a pasture. Horses take grass right down to the dirt.
More useless knowledge from Bex, lol.
I always wondered why you didn't see the two animals together more often?

Ever see a Donkey trying to hang with and act like a horse? lol

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Since: Jun 11

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#22 Jul 12, 2013
Ricky F wrote:
<quoted text>I always wondered why you didn't see the two animals together more often?
Ever see a Donkey trying to hang with and act like a horse? lol
Donkeys are a wee bit smarter then horses and more sure footed. That why miners would use donkeys instead of horses. Donkeys are said to be more stubborn but that is more likely due to self preservation, lol.
Donkeys get on well enough with horses for breeding the larger mule hybrid into existance.

From the archives of bexapedia, lol.
Jonathan Swift

Mount Vernon, MO

#23 Jul 13, 2013
solution one :rather than spend $400,000 a year
slaughtering horses to profit human predators like
Sue Wallis and Mindy Patterson, we pay Rains Natural
Meats to clean up past contamination from their old
plant. Jobs created. Every body happy except Wallis
and Patterson. No horses killed.
solution two: the United States is over-breeding
fat profiteers who never cease lobbying to
undermine democracy. Ship them all to China to be
turned into fertilizer. Wait, that's no good !
Nothing would grow where such toxic waste would be
dumped !
solution three: rather than subsidizing with tax
money those who over-breed horses for racing,
rodeo stunt quarter horses, etc. make them pay
for the "excess" horses which are allegedly
causing a problem to which the only "solution"
is the Final Solution ! Make corporate welfare
pay for itself rather than increase burdens on
taxpayers as well as make horses suffer transporting them to slaughterhouses and on the
killing floor.
Seriously

Sedalia, MO

#24 Jul 14, 2013
The cost of inspection is more than covered by permit fees. These expenses are passed on to the end consumers of product.

Just admit it. Those that oppose horse slaughter do so purely on emotion, nothing more.
Seriously

Sedalia, MO

#25 Jul 14, 2013
Is there really a law against killing a horse? Or eating horse meat?

I've been looking, and can't find any such laws...
war horse

Mount Vernon, MO

#26 Jul 14, 2013
@ Seriously. You miss the point. Follow the link
on comment 12. It is irrelevant who the costs gets
passed onto - federal tax money is used to inspect
horse meat. 80% of taxpayers object to the use of
their money enabling horse slaughter. Here's how
ridiculous your argument is by exact analogy:
"nothing but emotion sustains objections to child
labor. Why would any one otherwise object to their
tax-money being used to start child labor again in
factories ? The expenses are passed onto the
consumer !" The objection is moral, idiot ! They
aren't concerned about "losing money" as if it
were betting on the horse track ! They're objecting
to their money being used to enable horse slaughter. Like child labor, they find horse slaughter morally objectionable. Get it ?
On your second point, you must not be
looking very hard to find the number of states in
which horse slaughter for human consumption is
illegal, including California, New Jersey. In
most states, for an individual to kill and butcher
a horse is illegal as it is considered inhumane -
even in Florida, where the practice goes on
criminally. Here's a suggestion, Really, if you
were to remove your head from the sand like an
ostrich you might find the reality you are seeking !Good luck looking it up Mindy !
Seriously

Columbia, MO

#27 Jul 14, 2013
So, it's not illegal here in Missouri...

Your statistics are suspect at best, and most likely bogus. You have no legitimate way to claim that 80% of taxpayers are against slaughtering horses.

Is killing and eating a cow somehow more humane than killing a horse? Is that what you're really saying? Horses are livestock, property, not hairy people with long ears.

If a horse owner wants to slaughter his horse and grill it up, that's his own business. If he wants to sell it to make dog food, that's his business as well. Until you personally buy up all the horses, you have no right to say what happens to them.
war horse

Mount Vernon, MO

#28 Jul 14, 2013
@Seriously a.k.a. Mindy, Sue, profiteers etc.:

Now pay attention one last time :
1.'until you personally buy up all the horses you
have no right to say what happens to them.' Sure do:
you use my tax dollars to start up horse slaughter
again so I do have a right, you contaminate my state
and make it subject to economic boycott, so again I
have a right to object to it. Repeat: starting a
horse slaughter plant is not a private transaction
between horse owner and slaughterhouse investors like
yourself. When you use public money to jump start it,
it's no longer a private property issue. Get it ?
2. it is illegal everywhere and always has been
to sell tainted/poisoned meat and horse meat is
precisely that, as every horse who ever has ingested Bute, wormers, etc. carries cancer causing
substances in their blood stream forever.
3. In case you haven't noticed, there are laws
regarding cruelty to horses, exactly as there are
dogs, cats and even "livestock" cattle and there
always have been. It is and always has been false
that the law anywhere, including Missouri, allows
owners to do what they wish with their "livestock
property". Or do you not know that you can be fined
for allowing cattle to starve to death or go without water ? If the owners rights are absolute,
why would this be the case ?
4. Horses have never been categorized as "livestock" but as companion animals.
5. Horses are indeed not hairy people with long ears but you are you a horses' ass with less
intelligence and pity than most horses have in
their heads.
6. here's a question for you, Sue, Mindy,: why
should taxpayers subsidize the profit you will
make slaughtering horses you have rounded up on
the cheap ? Since they don't believe in it, why
should they pay for horse slaughter ? It's exactly
the same as if I tried to force you to pay a tax
on obesity for those chronically addicted to fast
food. Now waddle out a reply to that fatso !
Curious

Sedalia, MO

#29 Jul 15, 2013
@ "War Horse".... I see you've still failed to find any adults willing to review your rants prior to posting...

Sad and funny at the same time...

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Since: Dec 10

Homefries

#30 Jul 15, 2013
Would anyone like some horse-kabob? I have extra.
fat lady sings offkey

Mount Vernon, MO

#31 Jul 15, 2013
@ Seriously. I guess the Fat Lady ran out of stock
arguments being unable to defend them logically.
Before exiting therefore, she stuck her tongue out
at her critics instead of responding rationally.
Now who is childish here ? Who needs adult
supervision, Sue, Mindy ? Hm...... Guess what,
this plant will never open folks. If they're still
fishing for investors, they're about to get burned.
morgansinkc

Richmond, MO

#32 Jul 16, 2013
I am against the USDA opening up inspections for the proposed horse slaughter plant in Gallatin, Missouri, or in any other city or county in Missouri or in the United States. Horses in the U.S. are not raised for human consumption.
They are our friends and companions, and as such horses are treated with drugs like cats and dogs to a wide variety of vaccinations, bacterins, topical and oral treatments that are not approved for human consumption. We use gloves with topical treatments, because we don't want equine drugs touching our skin, let alone consuming them.
It's not economical to raise horses for slaughter in the U.S., because it takes a whole lot more money to feed a horse than it does a bovine (or cow), for example. The USDA has no business inspecting a horse slaughter plant that by default will be receiving horses that are not fit for human consumption. The horses they will be receiving have not been raised drug-free for human consumption. That's a fact.
As a grower of corn, wheat and soybeans, the USDA's reputation directly affects many. The European Union, which is where most of the horse meat would go, has a zero tolerance for Bute (Phenylbutazone), which is routinely given to horses in the U.S. It is estimated that 90% of horses in the U.S. have been treated with this drug, not to mention all of the other drugs.
There is no way to test for all of these drugs on every horse destined for slaughter. If you don't believe me, then keep reading. We had a horse at one of the Universities that was sick and on the premises of the University, and it took two days for us to get the test results of one test. Many tests would need to be run on each horse, and there is no way to do this in a timely fashion.
Most of the horses destined for slaughter are young or middle-aged, and in the prime of their lives. Two that have been rescued from slaughter have gone on and are now showing at the Morgan Grand National level.
Horse slaughter has no place in America.
Please say "no" to horse slaughter.

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Since: Dec 10

Homefries

#33 Jul 17, 2013
morgansinkc wrote:
I am against the USDA opening up inspections for the proposed horse slaughter plant in Gallatin, Missouri, or in any other city or county in Missouri or in the United States. Horses in the U.S. are not raised for human consumption.
They are our friends and companions, and as such horses are treated with drugs like cats and dogs to a wide variety of vaccinations, bacterins, topical and oral treatments that are not approved for human consumption. We use gloves with topical treatments, because we don't want equine drugs touching our skin, let alone consuming them.
It's not economical to raise horses for slaughter in the U.S., because it takes a whole lot more money to feed a horse than it does a bovine (or cow), for example. The USDA has no business inspecting a horse slaughter plant that by default will be receiving horses that are not fit for human consumption. The horses they will be receiving have not been raised drug-free for human consumption. That's a fact.
As a grower of corn, wheat and soybeans, the USDA's reputation directly affects many. The European Union, which is where most of the horse meat would go, has a zero tolerance for Bute (Phenylbutazone), which is routinely given to horses in the U.S. It is estimated that 90% of horses in the U.S. have been treated with this drug, not to mention all of the other drugs.
There is no way to test for all of these drugs on every horse destined for slaughter. If you don't believe me, then keep reading. We had a horse at one of the Universities that was sick and on the premises of the University, and it took two days for us to get the test results of one test. Many tests would need to be run on each horse, and there is no way to do this in a timely fashion.
Most of the horses destined for slaughter are young or middle-aged, and in the prime of their lives. Two that have been rescued from slaughter have gone on and are now showing at the Morgan Grand National level.
Horse slaughter has no place in America.
Please say "no" to horse slaughter.
You wouldn't be saying that if you actually tasted a hamburger made of horsemeat. It is deliscious. You really should give it a try, your opinion might just change.
war horse

El Dorado Springs, MO

#34 Jul 17, 2013
@ DILF stands for D***ed Illiterate Lamebrain Fool
perhaps ? Your forehead wrinkle must be from age,
certainly it can't be thinking. You can order
horse kabob from Ireland they don't want it as
they found it contained cancer-causing substances,
and may be conducive to sterility. You may find
it delicious, but then that's Darwinian Natural
Selection at work isn't it ? Weeding out those
unfit to breed ? It's a serious question for
thinking Americans however DILF ! Just as the
scandal in Europe, suddenly we will find toxic horse
meat mixed in with Burger King without being told
and served to school kids. Also, anybody who owns
a horse within two hundred miles of Gallatin better
invest in high tech security. Horse theft soars
around horse slaughter plants. Can you guess why,
troll ? Horse kabob also shrinks dramatically the
male generative organ (also Darwin at work) or in
your case perhaps you were born that way ? Don't
stand too close to a mule DILF. They have a habit
of kicking fellow jackasses to the moon !
LOST IN MISSISSIPPI

Ludington, MI

#35 Jul 17, 2013
we need a petition to stop people from breading unwanted horses

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Since: Dec 10

Homefries

#36 Jul 17, 2013
LOST IN MISSISSIPPI wrote:
we need a petition to stop people from breading unwanted horses
Mmmmmm, breaded horse cutlets.

Is that like Schnitzel?

“Forehead wrinkle”

Since: Dec 10

Homefries

#37 Jul 17, 2013
war horse wrote:
@ DILF stands for D***ed Illiterate Lamebrain Fool
perhaps ? Your forehead wrinkle must be from age,
certainly it can't be thinking. You can order
horse kabob from Ireland they don't want it as
they found it contained cancer-causing substances,
and may be conducive to sterility. You may find
it delicious, but then that's Darwinian Natural
Selection at work isn't it ? Weeding out those
unfit to breed ? It's a serious question for
thinking Americans however DILF ! Just as the
scandal in Europe, suddenly we will find toxic horse
meat mixed in with Burger King without being told
and served to school kids. Also, anybody who owns
a horse within two hundred miles of Gallatin better
invest in high tech security. Horse theft soars
around horse slaughter plants. Can you guess why,
troll ? Horse kabob also shrinks dramatically the
male generative organ (also Darwin at work) or in
your case perhaps you were born that way ? Don't
stand too close to a mule DILF. They have a habit
of kicking fellow jackasses to the moon !
Why are you being so mean to me?
My stance is that meat is meat (outside of cannibalism of course).
Why must you lash out at me so harshly?

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Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#38 Jul 17, 2013
morgansinkc wrote:
I am against the USDA opening up inspections for the proposed horse slaughter plant in Gallatin, Missouri, or in any other city or county in Missouri or in the United States. Horses in the U.S. are not raised for human consumption.
They are our friends and companions, and as such horses are treated with drugs like cats and dogs to a wide variety of vaccinations, bacterins, topical and oral treatments that are not approved for human consumption. We use gloves with topical treatments such as Surpass, because we don't want equine drugs touching our skin, let alone consuming them.
It's not economical to raise horses for slaughter in the U.S., because it takes a whole lot more money to feed a horse than it does a bovine (or cow), for example. The USDA has no business inspecting a horse slaughter plant that by default will be receiving horses that are not fit for human consumption. The horses they will be receiving have not been raised drug-free for human consumption. That's a fact.
As a grower of corn, wheat and soybeans, the USDA's reputation directly affects many. The European Union, which is where most of the horse meat would go, has a zero tolerance for Bute (Phenylbutazone), which is routinely given to horses in the U.S. It is estimated that 90% of horses in the U.S. have been treated with this drug, not to mention all of the other drugs.
There is no way to test for all of these drugs on every horse destined for slaughter. If you don't believe me, then keep reading. We had a horse at one of the Universities that was sick and on the premises of the University, and it took two days for us to get the test results of one test. Many tests would need to be run on each horse, and there is no way to do this in a timely fashion.
Most of the horses destined for slaughter are young or middle-aged, and in the prime of their lives. Two that have been rescued from slaughter have gone on and are now showing at the Morgan Grand National level.
Horse slaughter has no place in America.
Thanks for putting a scientific spin on a topic that
causes so much emotional strain that I just can't BE
scientific about it.

Both of my horses are rescue animals.
One was 5 and the other 7 when we met up w/them.
Very young animals considering that horses that
are cared for properly can live upwards of 30 yrs.
Both are sweet tempered pets. The key word being
pets. B/c these animals were not considered "show"
quality and were not going to make any money on the
racing circuit they were considered of little use.
Actually the seller could make more money selling them
for slaughter than for pets.

It makes me sick. It's like saying I should kill and
eat the family dog b/c he doesn't bring in any income.

But you are absolutely right about vaccines and different
medications that are given to pets in this country to
keep them safe.

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Since: Jun 08

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#39 Jul 17, 2013
Beautiful Black Molly wrote:
<quoted text>
Donkeys are a wee bit smarter then horses and more sure footed. That why miners would use donkeys instead of horses. Donkeys are said to be more stubborn but that is more likely due to self preservation, lol.
Donkeys get on well enough with horses for breeding the larger mule hybrid into existance.
From the archives of bexapedia, lol.
Aren't they more durable and...I thought that I read somewhere...something with their hooves? Maybe more sure-footed?

Level 9

Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#40 Jul 17, 2013
Beautiful Black Molly wrote:
<quoted text>
1) Many wild horses are still about, but I think they would raise them like cows for slaughter ...... NOT with my approval.
2) Horses cannot be raised with cattle. Cows have one set of lower teeth and must wrap their tongue around tall grass and shear it off. Horses have 2 sets of teeth and clip the grass too low for cows to get a grip. That why the ratio is about 1 horse to 30 cows on a pasture. Horses take grass right down to the dirt.
More useless knowledge from Bex, lol.
And sheep take the grass roots and all.

..totally useless information from arctic:)

How 'ya doing Bex? Hope you're having a good day.

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