Would you vote for Prez Obama for the next 4 years?

[Go Blue]

Denny CranesPlace wrote:

Yesterday Obama told the same lie he has told since 9/11. The attack was not a terrorist attack. Today they admit it was a terrorist attack. He thinks he can lie to the American people and get away with it. What happened to his promise of a open transparent government. He trotted out state department and ambassadors to tell his lies

Think he was waiting for the findings of their investigation....but, if your into just calling him a liar...go for it...

[Hunglo]

Go Blue wrote:

<quoted text>Think he was waiting for the findings of their investigation....but, if your into just calling him a liar...go for it...

I'm good with calling him a liar, if the shoe fits.

"My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years."

“I am told that Governor Romney’s new running mate, Paul Ryan, might be around Iowa the next few days,” he said while in Council Bluffs, Iowa.“He is one of the leaders of Congress standing in the way. So if you happen to see Congressman Ryan, tell him how important this farm bill is to Iowa and our rural communities.”
House passed bill on August 2, 2012 (Paul Ryan voted yes)

In his 2012 State of the Union Address, President Obama said that American oil production is the highest that it’s been in eight years.

"I’ve done more for Israel’s security than any President ever"

"The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime."

"ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax"

"Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term"

"I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage."

"Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year"

"Would have the most transparent administration in History"

"I have visited all 57 states."

[Brian_G]

milwaukee69 wrote:

Again - just because you have a fatass, you can't blame McDonald's.
Obama's "actual" words, uncut:
"Indeed, the legal challenges that have sparked so much debate in recent weeks in Washington would be taking place whether or not I decided to close Guantanamo. For example, the court order to release seventeen Uighur detainees took place last fall — when George Bush was President. The Supreme Court that invalidated the system of prosecution at Guantanamo in 2006 was overwhelmingly appointed by Republican Presidents. In other words, the problem of what to do with Guantanamo detainees was not caused by my decision to close the facility; the problem exists because of the decision to open Guantanamo in the first place."
"As our efforts to close Guantanamo move forward, I know that the politics in Congress will be difficult. These issues are fodder for 30-second commercials and direct mail pieces that are designed to frighten. I get it. But if we continue to make decisions from within a climate of fear, we will make more mistakes.… I have confidence that the American people are more interested in doing what is right to protect this country than in political posturing. I am not the only person in this city who swore an oath to uphold the Constitution — so did each and every member of Congress. Together we have a responsibility to enlist our values in the effort to secure our people, and to leave behind the legacy that makes it easier for future Presidents to keep this country safe."
If you would like to read the "actual" remainder of his speech, have at it...just keep your spins and lies to yourself, ok?[URL deleted]

Wrong speech, in Cairo, Obama said:

"... We are taking concrete actions to change course. I have unequivocally prohibited the use of torture by the United States, and I have ordered the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed by early next year...."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/19/b...

Maybe the Muslim world doesn't like Obama's broken promises anymore than US citizens dislike them.

Obama is a failure.

[Nancy Botwin]

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>Wrong speech, in Cairo, Obama said:
"... We are taking concrete actions to change course. I have unequivocally prohibited the use of torture by the United States, and I have ordered the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed by early next year...."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/19/b...
Maybe the Muslim world doesn't like Obama's broken promises anymore than US citizens dislike them.
Obama is a failure.

It is congress, the Republicans in particular, that have obstructed the closure of Gitmo. It is congress and the Republicans that are failures.

Guantanamo Bay: Still Open, Despite Promises

"Obama signed that bill into law, even as he issued a statement that disapproved of it. The provision was part of a bigger military bill that Obama said was too important not to sign.

Republicans, in particular, say that Guantanamo must stay open to keep terrorists there".
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/guantanam...

We all know Obama hasn't kept promises. We all know both parties and the "Washington culture" are corrupt. The problem is what to do next because Romney doesn't have a prayer...and I wouldn't vote for him anyway. America needs a third party...or maybe even a fourth. Just something to consider..

Have a good day.

[Denny CranesPlace]

Nancy Botwin wrote:

<quoted text>
It is congress, the Republicans in particular, that have obstructed the closure of Gitmo. It is congress and the Republicans that are failures.
Guantanamo Bay: Still Open, Despite Promises
"Obama signed that bill into law, even as he issued a statement that disapproved of it. The provision was part of a bigger military bill that Obama said was too important not to sign.
Republicans, in particular, say that Guantanamo must stay open to keep terrorists there".
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/guantanam...
We all know Obama hasn't kept promises. We all know both parties and the "Washington culture" are corrupt. The problem is what to do next because Romney doesn't have a prayer...and I wouldn't vote for him anyway. America needs a third party...or maybe even a fourth. Just something to consider..
Have a good day.

LOL For the first 2 years Obama didn't need a single vote to do what he wanted yet he did nothing except borrow and spend

[Uh Clem]

Denny CranesPlace wrote:

<quoted text>LOL For the first 2 years Obama didn't need a single vote to do what he wanted yet he did nothing except borrow and spend

But that WAS what he wanted to do!

[Nancy Botwin]

Denny CranesPlace wrote:

<quoted text>LOL For the first 2 years Obama didn't need a single vote to do what he wanted yet he did nothing except borrow and spend

Thanks for the response, Denny. Are you referring to the misnomer that the Dems controlled the congress for two year and did nothing? Close, but that isn't exactly true. Here, check this out...BTW I did edit some of this to make it shorter.

"Apparently everyone forgot the President needed 60 votes in the Senate to pass legislation. The healthcare bill was passed using "reconciliation", because there were not 60 Democrats in the Senate.

Immigration, Gay Rights could not be passed with the same process because it is reserved for budgetary matters. The Stimulus was hijacked by the Republicans and job-creating measures were traded for tax cuts because...there were not 60 Democratic votes to pass it.

Apparently no one remembers that Scott Brown was sworn into office in February of 2010. At that time, the President had only been in office for ONE year. Most folks remember that the election of Scott Brown reduced the number of Democratic senators to 59. So the President could not have possibly had Congressional control for two years." There's more....
http://www.thepragmaticpundit.com/2011/12/oba...

I would also point out that our government has a system of checks and balances. It is a mistake to assume that any president has carte blanche to do whatever he...OR SHE ...wants. We do have a very dysfunctional congress no matter who the majority is. That needs to be addressed in the individual states by voting the dysfunctional jerks out. We need to stop this left and right paradigm fight. It's hurting America.

So, my question really is...how do we fix this mess? Rather than keep beating a dead horse, lets look at ways to fix it. I have a few ideas but would like to hear what you/everyone has to say and any suggestions you might have. The first thing I would tackle would be campaign finance reform. You?

[SanAntonioBabe]

Let's see Mitt Romney is now going to reveal his tax returns to the public and they have been bitching for years to see Obama's birth certificate. Which do you think is going to happen first? The "birthers" all claim Obama wasn't born in Hawaii but Kenya. Things that definitely make you go "hmmm". Just thought I'd throw those out there. Now go and discuss it among yourselves.

[Bill]

SanAntonioBabe wrote:

Let's see Mitt Romney is now going to reveal his tax returns to the public and they have been bitching for years to see Obama's birth certificate. Which do you think is going to happen first?

Its doubtful we'll ever know the truth about Obama's past unless some future POTUS has the balls to dig it up after he leaves our house.

[tallyho]

what do you really THINK:

World leaders will be holding tete-a-tetes this week as the annual United Nations General Assembly convenes — but not President Obama, who will instead be chatting it up with the ladies of “The View.”

Unlike his predecessors, Obama won’t be on hand for private meetings with diplomats and heads of state from 193 nations.

[Captn Morgan]

tallyho wrote:

what do you really THINK:
World leaders will be holding tete-a-tetes this week as the annual United Nations General Assembly convenes — but not President Obama, who will instead be chatting it up with the ladies of “The View.”
Unlike his predecessors, Obama won’t be on hand for private meetings with diplomats and heads of state from 193 nations.

Valery Garrett can't script private meetings.

[Denny Crain]

Bill wrote:

<quoted text>Its doubtful we'll ever know the truth about Obama's past unless some future POTUS has the balls to dig it up after he leaves our house.

Very little is know about Obama's past. We don't know where he traveled nor do we know his school background

[arctic]

Nancy Botwin wrote:

<quoted text>
Thanks for the response, Denny. Are you referring to the misnomer that the Dems controlled the congress for two year and did nothing? Close, but that isn't exactly true. Here, check this out...BTW I did edit some of this to make it shorter.
"Apparently everyone forgot the President needed 60 votes in the Senate to pass legislation. The healthcare bill was passed using "reconciliation", because there were not 60 Democrats in the Senate.
Immigration, Gay Rights could not be passed with the same process because it is reserved for budgetary matters. The Stimulus was hijacked by the Republicans and job-creating measures were traded for tax cuts because...there were not 60 Democratic votes to pass it.
Apparently no one remembers that Scott Brown was sworn into office in February of 2010. At that time, the President had only been in office for ONE year. Most folks remember that the election of Scott Brown reduced the number of Democratic senators to 59. So the President could not have possibly had Congressional control for two years." There's more....
http://www.thepragmaticpundit.com/2011/12/oba...
I would also point out that our government has a system of checks and balances. It is a mistake to assume that any president has carte blanche to do whatever he...OR SHE ...wants. We do have a very dysfunctional congress no matter who the majority is. That needs to be addressed in the individual states by voting the dysfunctional jerks out. We need to stop this left and right paradigm fight. It's hurting America.
So, my question really is...how do we fix this mess? Rather than keep beating a dead horse, lets look at ways to fix it. I have a few ideas but would like to hear what you/everyone has to say and any suggestions you might have. The first thing I would tackle would be campaign finance reform. You?

What's with the 60 vote thing anyway.
Since when does it take more than 51 to
be the majority?

[Therefore]

Denny Crain wrote:

<quoted text>Very little is know about Obama's past. We don't know where he traveled nor do we know his school background

Well then, if you don't know those very basic facts about him, then you cannot possibly *KNOW* the crap that spews from your awholes about him! DUH!

[Uh Clem]

Therefore wrote:

<quoted text>Well then, if you don't know those very basic facts about him, then you cannot possibly *KNOW* the crap that spews from your awholes about him! DUH!

Just like the folks who 'KNEW' Romney was hiding something, that he had to be lying, that he hadn't paid any income taxes in years... Right?

[Therefore]

Uh Clem wrote:

<quoted text>
Just like the folks who 'KNEW' Romney was hiding something, that he had to be lying, that he hadn't paid any income taxes in years... Right?

LOL!!!! Oh yeah- he cleared that up....yeeeeaaaahhhh..... Good thing he picked last year....

Just think, clown: you awholes are STILL demanding an Obama BC that says "Kenya" and 15% think president ROMNEY killed Bin Laden! 59% of your fellow clowns "aren't sure"....

[Denny Crain]

arctic wrote:

<quoted text>
What's with the 60 vote thing anyway.
Since when does it take more than 51 to
be the majority?

Don't confuse them with facts :)

[Uh Clem]

Therefore wrote:

<quoted text>LOL!!!! Oh yeah- he cleared that up....yeeeeaaaahhhh..... Good thing he picked last year....
Just think, clown: you awholes are STILL demanding an Obama BC that says "Kenya" and 15% think president ROMNEY killed Bin Laden! 59% of your fellow clowns "aren't sure"....

Hi, Rusty. Just foaming at the mouth, aintcha? Polls got ya down? Your guy's finding it rather tough just to stay even with the next president. He couldn't even hold onto the 'bump' after the convention. Damn weak for an incumbent.

[Denny Crain]

Therefore wrote:

<quoted text>LOL!!!! Oh yeah- he cleared that up....yeeeeaaaahhhh..... Good thing he picked last year....
Just think, clown: you awholes are STILL demanding an Obama BC that says "Kenya" and 15% think president ROMNEY killed Bin Laden! 59% of your fellow clowns "aren't sure"....

The media is so in the tank for Obama. Like the flap over Romney saying the simple truth. If 47% pay no federal income tax at all then they are not interested in lowering the tax rate. The government has NO money. Anything they give to one person they must take from another. I am so tired hearing tax the rich. Everyone needs to pay something in federal tax

[Not a chance]

BHO is a LIAR, a THIEF, and a CROOK. You know, a typical Demoncrat.