Bizarre JonBenet' Ramsey update

Bizarre JonBenet' Ramsey update

There are 556 comments on the Thomasville Times story from Mar 3, 2011, titled Bizarre JonBenet' Ramsey update. In it, Thomasville Times reports that:

When I thought about JonBenet Ramsey the other day, I decided to see what had happened recently in the case and what happened to the guy who said he killed her, but investigators said he could not have been at the scene.

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“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#615 Apr 15, 2011
Henri McPhee wrote:
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Including Fleet White. He was cleared by the Boulder police in April 1997 but he can still be UNcleared.
You are correct. Anyone can be UNcleared at any time

“Purple girl in a purple world”

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Since: Apr 08

Plum, Purplonia

#616 Apr 15, 2011
LIKE A GOOD NEIGHBOR wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah and on those CSI shows they always go into places shining their flashlites,wouldnt it be easier just to flip on the light switch every time they enter a crime scene?
It depends. They use special lights to look at luminol, and the main room light won't work under the bed or sofa. For outside killings, there are no lights to turn on, at least not until the crime lab brings in a portable generator and construction type work lights. Plus even indoors, there might be a latent print or DNA on the light switch.

That said, a lot of things done on crime shows are a stretch. For instance, I don't think there is a machine you can point at anything and get composition results in 3 seconds. Like on one episode, they pointed this analyzer at a specimen, and it came back as ethanol, toluene, benzene, etc., which are basically some of the things you find in gasoline.

How the co-workers treat each other on those shows is unprofessional, and in the real world, would earn HR reprimands and firings. Like sexual harassment, creating a hostile work environment, insubordination, etc.

The profiler type shows often go to stretches in interpreting crime scenes and behavioral cues. How can you look at a crime scene and make immediate interpretations about the suspect's childhood?

What I don't like about CSI is how in later episodes, they villainize people who do the right thing and rid the earth of genuine scum that the cops are powerless to stop. Like in one, 2 rape victims went around killing rapists, and guess who went to prison? And what gets me, it was a female sell-out, compassionless b***h cop who put them away. On another episode, a vicious bully got killed by the family of one of her victims. Again, it was the same thing. The cops made excuses for the bully and sided against the victim. What society needs are shows where people kill rapists and bullies, and do so without consequences, and thus showing the abusers of the world that nobody likes them and that someone will get them, and that if they continue what they do, others will laugh at their demise and thank whatever deity they worship, if any.

Still, with all the above, I continue to watch the programs. And I apologize to everyone for going off-topic. I brought up the one show because it illustrated toxic motherhood.

“Purple girl in a purple world”

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Plum, Purplonia

#617 Apr 15, 2011
tallyho wrote:
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I watch a guy spend close to $80 try to find his rock , looked for a couple of hrs , tore the molding off the walls , had his baggy in my pocket all the time
Right down the street from me, someone bought a piece of quartz for $100 and tried smoking it all night long. The guy with the piece of quartz was not trying to sell it. He just picked it up off the ground and was holding it and rolling it around in his hand. Then this other guy, thinking it was crack, demanded that he sell it to him.

“youbeateverythin g youknowthat ”

Level 3

Since: Apr 07

Buffalo, NY

#619 Apr 30, 2011
OMG here we go again with all the hypothises. I'm guessing she was killed by a murderer!

“pffft”

Since: Jan 11

blue point.

#620 May 1, 2011
Purple Gurl wrote:
<quoted text>Right down the street from me, someone bought a piece of quartz for $100 and tried smoking it all night long. The guy with the piece of quartz was not trying to sell it. He just picked it up off the ground and was holding it and rolling it around in his hand. Then this other guy, thinking it was crack, demanded that he sell it to him.
Mastic beach long island new York?
Biz

New Port Richey, FL

#621 May 1, 2011
LIKE A GOOD NEIGHBOR wrote:
The Adonus DNA and traces of tiger blood left at the scene should be your 1st clue.DUH
So Charlie Sheen was the killer? Never heard him mentioned as a suspect. That's a good one

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#623 May 1, 2011
Wow, Barry Bee Franky Lee. You've pretty much just described yourself.

“....VETS”

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WELCOME HOME

#624 May 1, 2011
thewhitewitchone wrote:
Wow, Barry Bee Franky Lee. You've pretty much just described yourself.
Chia

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#626 May 1, 2011
tallyho wrote:
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Chia
Tootlems.

“youbeateverythin g youknowthat ”

Level 3

Since: Apr 07

Buffalo, NY

#627 May 1, 2011
ruffles wrote:
my hero, the pooping scooping pamela cryder and babs the klonopin popping PIG wrote:
Forget it, Cap. Franky has just divulged on another thread that he has a learning disability. That explains much.
I know, parent issues, learning disability, blah and blah
It never excuses poor conduct. It may explain it but it doesn't excuse it.
Perhaps a forum for posters with the same issues would help and this forum isn't it
What a cruel, ugly thing to say! He HAD an undiagnosed learning disorder as a child, but it's perfectly obvious he's highly intelligent and well educated despite his earlier adversity.
How typical of you to take his story of personal sadness and use it as a weapon against him. That was a low blow! You truly are devoid of normal human compassion.
DrSeussMd
Since: Jul 10
964
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The 'she' thing has been laid to rest.
She did it
She told y0u why she did it
She said she won't do it again
Let it go.
FRANKY LEE wrote:
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"Cap" you just said, "I wasn't condemning you for not sticking up for anyone."
Just before saying that you said to me,
"They, including you, stayed quiet and applauded him for being so tenacious. Where were you and most of the others when Cyn and MJ were calling WV a pervert and a pedophile?
I'll tell you where you were: You were busy calling me and others, but especially me, the vilest names and the most inappropriate responses this board has seen since CommonSense. THAT'S where YOU were AND praising some of the other posters who were posting crude and vile things
So stop your whining."
You have been calling me her, and she and taunting me. Even created a bogus thread about a bogus PM and you now confess you called me those names because you honestly do believe I am a female.
And yet you still have not answered my questions. That is okay Cap. You have done the best you could.
self proclaimed crusader of all things inappropriate to women.
Bullchit! All of it; words are meaningless unless it is backed up by action and they aren't
FRANKY LEE wrote:
all things inappropriate is the key. not self proclaimed nothing.
what's your excuse? didn't answer a single question except you think I am female. why call me her and she when you were told I was male?
Lynette
South Africa
I never said you were gay. I said I called you she and her because I believed you are female
Nobody cares, even if you are gay
I wasn't condemning you for not sticking up for anyone else other than you/lynette. I just condemn you for being so pious about injustices when you are the most unjust of all; still do.
Grow up
Capricorn
The PM "fiasco" was real, the "taunting" was YOU, and my beliefs and reasons for them are personal.
If it matters to you, then you'll just have to get over it. You believe the Ramseys are innocent too and I don't believe that either. I am entitled to my opinions and beliefs, but as promised, I won't "refer" to you as she or her.
That's all you need to know. I have, and will keep my end of the promise by not referring to you by gender. That will have to be enough.
thewhitewitchone
Since: Mar 08
You're wasting a lot of valuable internet space.
WV Sleuth

United States

#628 May 2, 2011
tallyho wrote:
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Chia
Jams?(Laughing my head off!)
bonnie

Lake Placid, NY

#631 Jun 10, 2011
I was eight when this happened me and my friend use to keep everything that was in the papers about this case...it makes you think if someone not n the family did it and really did want the ransom money then why was she still The house....dead or not they would have taken her body to atleast try and get the money it doesn't make any sense......that's just my thought...

“youbeateverythin g youknowthat ”

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Since: Apr 07

Buffalo, NY

#633 Jun 11, 2011
bonnie wrote:
I was eight when this happened me and my friend use to keep everything that was in the papers about this case...it makes you think if someone not n the family did it and really did want the ransom money then why was she still The house....dead or not they would have taken her body to atleast try and get the money it doesn't make any sense......that's just my thought...
OK, thanks..

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Smirk .. ;-)

#635 Jun 21, 2011
I was always told the Ramsey family were cleared because of DNA?
Old South

AOL

#636 Jun 23, 2011
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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So everyone who knew the Ramseys was a pedophile? What kind of logic is that?
<quoted text>
The logic is I was listing a series of similarities. But nowhere did I indicate that everyone who knew the Ramseys was a pedophile. Each item cannot stand on its own individually. It takes the sum of all to add up to a logical conclusion.
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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Were these the only 3 kids born at that hospital? What is the tie in?<quoted text>
This is explained below.
Legal__Eagle wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, I thought Karr’s twins were born at home – Karr married Lara Knutson[12] in Alabama on May 19, 1989, when he was 24 and she was 16 and pregnant. She was carrying twin daughters who were delivered via a home birth on September 1, 1989. The girls, named Angel and Innocence, died later that day.<quoted text>
Instead of what you "thought", perhaps you should learn about something instead of forming and stating "thoughts". Actually, they were SUPPOSED to have been born at Northside Hospital. But John Mark and Lara had moved to Hamilton shortly before the babies were born. When Lara started spotting and the twins' delivery was imminant, they were rushed to a small hospital nearby. John Mark claims the doctor in attendance failed to even try to save the twins' lives and they died, ostensibly (according to John Mark) because of the hospital/doctor not providing the treatment called for. JM feels that had they had access to the facilities and services provided at Northside, the twins would have survived.
Legal__Eagle wrote:
<quoted text>
Which is it?
<quoted text>
Your mind is made up, so try again! But with an open mind not blinded by tunnel vision.
Legal__Eagle wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree. Patsy wrote the note!:)<quoted text>
If you agree, you can't claim that Patsy wrote the note, because that is not what I said! You're twisting things to suit what you see through your micro-vision. The note was written by John Mark Karr. You can't just pick out a couple if things you THINK make it appear to you that my argument doesn't hold up. But putting everything I said together, they all add up to one conclusion. And that conclusion does not indicate in any sense that Patsy wrote the note.
Coach P

Seattle, WA

#639 Aug 21, 2012
Read Foreign Faction by Kolar. Will pen your eyes to several possibilities
Linda C

Lincoln, NE

#640 Nov 9, 2012
I have followed this case since it happened. Anti beauty padgeant folks immediately point their finger at pervert attending one of her contest. The evidence showes something else. Start the clock ticking.

What perp would enter a house, wander around, get JBR and take her downstairs and make her eat pinapple. Then take her to the basement, write on her hands, stick a paint brush handle in her, strangle her, hit her on the head and then cover her up with a blanket. Oh, then go back upstairs look around to find a yellow legal pad and a marker pen. He sets down his flashlight and then writing the mother of all ransome notes. The clock is still ticking, how long has this pervert been inside the house by now.
The note is left on the step, and now the pervert tidies up. Puts everything away. Oops, the pineapple bowl with only Burke and JonBenet's finger prints is forgotten on the table.

The perp leaves and time keeps ticking. As the tale is told,. Patsy gets up and puts on the clothes she wore yesterday. This is a woman who would change purses everyday to match her shoes. But, she says she put on all her makeup, yesterdays clothes where she finds a 3 page ransome note and after she picks it up and starts to read it she starts screaming and runs back upstairs to see where JBR is. Stop right here:

Flag #1. She said she picked it up to read it. Ahhhh, the cops should find her prints on the note and possible the perps.
But.......the note, all 3 pages had no prints on it anywhere.

Flag #2. The note says "do what you are told or we will cut off her head" They were warned not to call the police. Not to call anyone and yet.....this is where John picks up the phone to call his lawyer.

Do you want more of the story or is that enough. I can tell you my opinion of how this happened and who did it, based on evidence.
The Truth Hurts

Novi, MI

#641 Nov 9, 2012
Linda C wrote:
I have followed this case since it happened. Anti beauty padgeant folks immediately point their finger at pervert attending one of her contest. The evidence showes something else. Start the clock ticking.
What perp would enter a house, wander around, get JBR and take her downstairs and make her eat pinapple. Then take her to the basement, write on her hands, stick a paint brush handle in her, strangle her, hit her on the head and then cover her up with a blanket. Oh, then go back upstairs look around to find a yellow legal pad and a marker pen. He sets down his flashlight and then writing the mother of all ransome notes. The clock is still ticking, how long has this pervert been inside the house by now.
The note is left on the step, and now the pervert tidies up. Puts everything away. Oops, the pineapple bowl with only Burke and JonBenet's finger prints is forgotten on the table.
The perp leaves and time keeps ticking. As the tale is told,. Patsy gets up and puts on the clothes she wore yesterday. This is a woman who would change purses everyday to match her shoes. But, she says she put on all her makeup, yesterdays clothes where she finds a 3 page ransome note and after she picks it up and starts to read it she starts screaming and runs back upstairs to see where JBR is. Stop right here:
Flag #1. She said she picked it up to read it. Ahhhh, the cops should find her prints on the note and possible the perps.
But.......the note, all 3 pages had no prints on it anywhere.
Flag #2. The note says "do what you are told or we will cut off her head" They were warned not to call the police. Not to call anyone and yet.....this is where John picks up the phone to call his lawyer.
Do you want more of the story or is that enough. I can tell you my opinion of how this happened and who did it, based on evidence.
John did not pick up the phone to call his lawyer. You have some of the facts confused but other than that, I agree with most of what you've said.:)
Let's hear your opinion on what happened and who did it "based on evidence." I'm interested.
Linda C

Lincoln, NE

#643 Nov 10, 2012
"this is an example of how people read just snatches of what happened here and there and think they know without a doubt everything that went on. Just the point that you gave as showing this poster to be "confused" is not the ONLY thing she has totally incorrect.
I could sit here and explain each and every facet of the "tale" as she told it being off the mark as well as how and why it is. But it would take far too much of my time so I'll just let it suffice by saying she should go back to square one and start studying the case. IMO, after reading this post, I doubt if the "evidence" she has is evidence at all.

Wow Mary B, you sound so angry.
" I could sit here and explain each and every facet of the "tale" as she told it being off the mark as well as how and why it is. But it would take far too much of my time so I'll just let it suffice by saying she should go back to square one and start studying the case. IMO, after reading this post, I doubt if the "evidence" she has is evidence at all."QUOTE
ditto....right back to you.
Since we don't know each other or how we each interacted with the investigation there is really nothing more to say.
The Truth Hurts

Detroit, MI

#644 Nov 10, 2012
I am still interested in hearing your theory, Linda C.

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