Do you support defunding Obamacare if...

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#358 Sep 29, 2013
-Persephone- wrote:
I know of one that's just waiting for Obamacare. Then this person can quit their government job, do what they really want at night and file for disability. Free medical care free government check and all the money they want to play with on the side. Pretty sweet deal huh?
Just got news insurance almost double ...really affordable ..

Save us money????

Any plan Congre ss. Exempts themselves from..Well speaks for itself

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#359 Sep 29, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
From that article:
"Andrew Sullivan thinks the White House needs “much better messaging.” Kathy Kristof of CBS MoneyWatch relates her own experience of seeing a 67 percent spike in her premiums, for a worse policy than she had before:
The promise that you could keep your old policy, if you liked it, has proved illusory. My insurer, Kaiser Permanente, informed me in a glossy booklet that “At midnight on December 31, we will discontinue your current plan because it will not meet the requirements of the Affordable Care Act.” My premium, the letter added, would go from $209 a month to $348, a 66.5 percent increase that will cost $1,668 annually.
What made my plan too substandard to survive under Obamacare? It did not provide maternity benefits. I’m 53 years old. I figure pregnancy would require an act of God.(Incidentally, maternity benefits will be covered on men’s policies too. Let’s hope medical science comes a long way so you guys can use those benefits.) My policy also did not cover substance abuse treatments or psychiatric care…
Meanwhile, the things that mattered to me — that I would be able to limit my out-of-pocket costs if I had a catastrophic ailment — got worse under my new Obamacare policy. My policy, which has always paid 100 percent of the cost of annual check-ups, had a $5,000 annual deductible for sick visits and hospital stays. Once I paid that $5,000, the plan would pay 100 percent of any additional cost. That protected me from economic devastation in the event of a catastrophic illness, such as cancer.
Kaiser’s Obamacare policy has a $4,500 deductible, but then covers only 40 percent of medical costs for office visits, hospital stays and drugs. Out-of-pocket expenses aren’t capped until the policyholder pays $6,350 annually.
Sure, that’s only another $1,350. But it adds to the additional $1,663 that I’m paying in premiums, making my personal cost for Obama care add to $3,018 annually. This, by the way, is the bare-bones policy under Obamacare — the Bronze plan. Premiums for plans that offer lower deductibles and premiums would cost almost twice as much, according to the Kaiser booklet."
It was just a way to get control ..they never read the bill..
Can't implement it ..should be unconstitutional to delay
and scrap it totally ..go back to what we had ..But make the market
More open ..

Defunding it would NOT have shut down anything else ..But the Dems in
CONGRESS would not .

IMO kick out anyone who voted for it ..But that is,me ..ugh ..

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#360 Sep 30, 2013
I support a government shutdown period.

When you're out of money, stop spending.

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#361 Sep 30, 2013
I support defunding the whole fedgov.

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#362 Sep 30, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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For some who never stop and think of the costs they impose on others and feel no shame about it.
My buddy posted on Facebook that insurance for he and his daughter through BC/BS went up over 30% and he has worse coverage too.
Gee, I just can't figure out why folks don't like that law. <sarcasm>
LOL. Most don't care what they do to other people. No sense of gratitude at what help they receive. The term "entitlement" is very plain on most communication with the government in a monthly transmittal from a federal agency. Entitlement...sheesh.

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#363 Sep 30, 2013
-Persephone- wrote:
<quoted text>LOL. Most don't care what they do to other people. No sense of gratitude at what help they receive.
I know. They play the "we are all in this together" card, but it really just means give me stuff, don't ask anything from me in return, and I couldn't care less what it costs you to give me the stuff I want. Sounds more like a burglar mentality.
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#364 Sep 30, 2013
A nice take from Roger Simon on the congressional clowns and their anti-American terrorism:

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/the-fra...

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#365 Sep 30, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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I know. They play the "we are all in this together" card, but it really just means give me stuff, don't ask anything from me in return, and I couldn't care less what it costs you to give me the stuff I want. Sounds more like a burglar mentality.
Some take it as a personal affront when you say you're not in favor of him tooo.

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#366 Sep 30, 2013
A noted observer wrote:
A nice take from Roger Simon on the congressional clowns and their anti-American terrorism:
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/the-fra...
He is nothing but a democrat shill.

The guy lost ANY AND ALL credibility when he wrote that the republican Congress voted to cut food stamp funding by 40 billion in that article. That is a complete lie. The guy should have his media credentials revoked and should just make it official and go on the DNC's payroll.

The republican house voted to increase funding by 56%::

http://www.westernjournalism.com/food-stamp-c...

I'm amazed that even folks who are democrats are just so accepting when they are lied to by the media and the powers that be in the democrat party. If you had any ability to think for yourselves, you would be outraged that you are fed propaganda and outright lies by the media and powers that be in the democrat party. If you had any ability to think for yourselves, you would want to be told the truth about the food stamp funding legislation passed in the house and would want to form your own opinion about it, without being lied to.

Nope, not folks like you ... you are quite happy to be lied to, just so long as it reinforces your views.

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#367 Sep 30, 2013
-Persephone- wrote:
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Some take it as a personal affront when you say you're not in favor of him tooo.
Some also turn a blind eye when they are lied to by their elected officials...

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#368 Sep 30, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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Some also turn a blind eye when they are lied to by their elected officials...
Eeek. Not good, is it. they wouldn't do that if it were their direct funds used.

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#369 Sep 30, 2013
ROFLMAO

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p...

Obama has drawn a red line and will veto any legislation that doesn't fund Obamacare. And if we know anything, we know that when Obama warns that something is a red line, not to be crossed, he really means it! Just ask Syria!!!

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#370 Sep 30, 2013
We own this thread, Perse! It's ours.

;)

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#371 Sep 30, 2013
Carry on fellows. Veeeeerrryyy interesting as (can't think of his name-the Hogan's Heros guy)(not klink the other'n)[[ sergeant-of-the-guard, Hans Schultz ]]Schultzee!
Thank you Wikipedia!

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#372 Sep 30, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
We own this thread, Perse! It's ours.
;)
lol

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#373 Sep 30, 2013

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#374 Sep 30, 2013
Has anyone heard whether Obamaphones quit working during a shutdown?
Uh Goon

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#375 Sep 30, 2013
Uh Clem wrote:
Has anyone heard whether Obamaphones quit working during a shutdown?
so lemme get tis straight, your creepy party is willfully shutting the gov down and you are making fun of something so far from importance? Doushenbag.

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#376 Sep 30, 2013
Uh Goon wrote:
<quoted text>so lemme get tis straight, your creepy party is willfully shutting the gov down and you are making fun of something so far from importance? Doushenbag.
The democrats are the ones trying to shut down the government. Get that straight and try again.

Wait, you DID say creepy party.

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#377 Sep 30, 2013
President Obama: "I will not negotiate!"

Remember that one !?!

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